Epic Games "does not believe in PC gaming" anymore
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 04:04    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
You forgot to mention full of bugs bugs bugs. Sad


Come on, Metro 2033, or The Witcher full of bugs bugs bugs? It's a myth that started with Stalker that HAD a lot of serious bugs, but look at US games, they're buggy as hell these days (SH5?) and they were buggy back in the day as well. Stalker: SoC was the first really really good but really really buggy game that came from the east and it put a shadow on eastern development. Clear Sky came later and was in a much better shape (still buggy though) and finally Call of Pripyat which was almost bug-free and playable from start to end without patch (afaik).


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Frolsa84




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 04:28    Post subject:
Yeah, I don't believe in "Epic" "Games" either.

If anything, Clear Sky was buggier than Shadow of Chernobyl.
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 04:34    Post subject:
Frolsa84 wrote:
Yeah, I don't believe in "Epic" "Games" either.

If anything, Clear Sky was buggier than Shadow of Chernobyl.


I finished the whole game before the first patch and I didn't come upon a single bug.


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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 08:47    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
The days of young adults with semi-genius minds hacking together amazing products that they got a few thousand bucks from are long gone.


Not sure about that mate. There are still small indie devs out there, even one man ones, that produce interesting and fun games for the PC. They might not make millions but they do make thousands of dollars.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 09:27    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
You forgot to mention full of bugs bugs bugs. Sad


Funny, some of my alltime favorite games have been filled to the brim with bugs Smile
Like Fallout 1+2, Vampire Bloodlines, Dark Corners of the Earth, and several old Sierra Adventures and other titles mainly from the early 90's Smile

On the other hand we had Lucas Arts in the 90's being the kings of proper coding Smile
As I remember they did a lot of great adventure games and on top of that the made every single one of them nearly bug free, and the same where true with their Space Sim games (Tie-Fighter, X-Wing) their games where so solid that often the game would not need a patch, but those that did usually only had to be patched one or two times.

That is what I call great costumer service and let's not forget that they did that without shitty DRM and their games got pirated like hell but still they made money Smile
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Frolsa84




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 09:54    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Frolsa84 wrote:
Yeah, I don't believe in "Epic" "Games" either.

If anything, Clear Sky was buggier than Shadow of Chernobyl.


I finished the whole game before the first patch and I didn't come upon a single bug.


I did the same with SoC. I restarted Clear Sky about five times, with different patches.

It always ended up inexplicably crashing in Cordon. Too bad the Swamp is such an awesome introductory level.
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copecowboy




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 11:21    Post subject:
pc gaming died for me when they stopped making the sport titles i play
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 11:31    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Stalker: SoC was the first really really good but really really buggy game that came from the east and it put a shadow on eastern development.


cough... Mafia, cough...
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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 11:37    Post subject:
Could not care less about this pathetic company. They destroyed Unreal Tournament 3 and introduced the most overused consolised engine in Pc's game history

The best thing that could happen is if Unreal Engine is stop being used for pc titles.. Ah, no more blur, lack of AA, no more next gen colors of brown..


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 11:47    Post subject:
Excuse me but I would say : EPIC FAIL ! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 12:03    Post subject:
If I could photoshop, I'd shoop the old Epic Megagames logo to something like Epic Megafails.

Or Epic Consolegames.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 12:22    Post subject:
Inatan: Hey! where did your EpicMegaFail sign go? Ninja editing???


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 12:28    Post subject:
Yeah, I'm looking for a higher quality of the original logo, that one was shitty GIF... Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 12:35    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Hehe, x360 is more pirated than the Carribean islands.

The system is beaten consistenly like a Thai hooker.



"There is no piracy on the 360!"


Funny dude and I don't usually tend to find you funny at all, so props Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 14:56    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Without enormous organizations with thousands of useless people that doesn't actually have anything to do with the games themselves being paid salaries etc. it would be a different matter. But they ALL have to be BIG, something that is VERY costly. They want huge buildings where they can flash their customers and investors, tons of flashy offices and furniture etc.. So it's only natural that they're interested in ONLY the money.

Exactly what i was thinking. You have corporate dickheads and marketing fuckups getting six-figure salaries and yet they say how much it costs to produce games nowadays. Maybe if they were to take pay-cuts then games wouldn't cost so much (yeah,right) Meanwhile, the programmers are cheated out of their share (Activision) and they want us to support them by buying their games.
These people are just drug dealers in ties. They found a money source of young and naive users (consoles) and they're milking it dry. It all started when they realized they can get away with selling games for $60 and charging for DLCs as well. Now they have to justify to their stockholders leaving the PC market. I can just hear this being said in a meeting: 'The stockholders will believe anything they read in the media. They believed it when we said piracy was killing the movie industry, they believed it when we said it was killing the music industry, and they'll believe when we say it's killing the games industry.' The sad part is that they're right.


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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 15:35    Post subject:
consoles are awesome because the idiots who play them love to be milked ala DLC

lol.

pc gaming "died" when you greedy fuck holes killed of modding
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 18:31    Post subject:
pc gaming died when nobody bought UT3. the old hardcore crowd is the only crowd that supports UT anymore, TF2, MW2, ect are the new hang out spots and epic failed to update their gameplay. their own fucking fault, so i guess they've given up for now, but somehow with the success of licensing U3 engine, i can't imagine how true that is...
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 18:37    Post subject:
FriendlyBus wrote:
pc gaming died when nobody bought UT3. the old hardcore crowd is the only crowd that supports UT anymore, TF2, MW2, ect are the new hang out spots and epic failed to update their gameplay. their own fucking fault, so i guess they've given up for now, but somehow with the success of licensing U3 engine, i can't imagine how true that is...


Wait what, TF2 failed?
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 18:38    Post subject:
No, he means TF2 and MW2 are the successful ones, instead of UT. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 18:46    Post subject:
And PC gaming "does not believe in Epic Games" anymore...so I guess we cancel each other out.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 19:06    Post subject:
Only one thing to say about that,...................asswipe.
They're still crying for failing with UT3.


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 19:42    Post subject:
If we extrapolate Epic's sentencies and compare them to the quality of all the games released during the so called "nextgen era" (2005-2010), it's clear that all their excuses become a bunch of nonsenses.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 19:50    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
If we extrapolate Epic's sentencies and compare them to the quality of all the games released during the so called "nextgen era" (2005-2010), it's clear that all their excuses become a bunch of nonsenses.


Good point!
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M4trix




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 19:56    Post subject:
Heck, like I already said X times before.... don't buy the fuc*ing consoles! Don't support the console industry! Don't buy games for consoles!

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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:11    Post subject:
All I can say is they'll be back. If you make something good for the pc you make money. If they have a good title on their hands capitalism will see to it that it get on the pc. Their own greed will dictate that the still large market pc-gaming is get tapped into. If not it's their loss really.

Btw the only thing I'm thinking when I hear Epic Games is UT and UT on a pad is just disgusting.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:22    Post subject:
I don't remember the last Epic game I played, but I'll really be glad when the Unreal Engine disappers from PC. I really don't like the bulky plastic feel of it. I don't know whether it's the devs or the engine itself, but almost all UE3 games look empty and unrealistic for some reason.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:37    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
I don't remember the last Epic game I played, but I'll really be glad when the Unreal Engine disappers from PC. I really don't like the bulky plastic feel of it. I don't know whether it's the devs or the engine itself, but almost all UE3 games look empty and unrealistic for some reason.


+1
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 20:47    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
And PC gaming "does not believe in Epic Games" anymore...so I guess we cancel each other out.


You good sir, have won the internets. Great post.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 21:06    Post subject:
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it killed a lot of great independent developers.


why can't he bring examples of his argument?


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th May 2010 21:13    Post subject:
Dear EPIC FAILS,
nobody care about your stupid unrealistic games and plastic engine!

I wish you bankruptcy!
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