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Wahad
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So, I was playing an Iraqi mission, and then, all of a sudden, my display went rainbowish, and it starts to brightner when I freaked out and turned of my computer from the power cable...
Im playing on ati 4650 1gb GDDR3 memory, and this is first game that gave me this kind of problem. Btw im playing it on my laptop, and i havent had a single problem with any game whatsoever.. Even with Crysis and Crysis Warhead witch, I must say, are more graphical intense than this....
My lappy is 6months old and as I said, I havent had any lock ups till now and this kind of blocking/freezing into any game till this...
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 05:25 Post subject: |
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Try updating your drivers?
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 05:27 Post subject: |
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| Wahad wrote: | So, I was playing an Iraqi mission, and then, all of a sudden, my display went rainbowish, and it starts to brightner when I freaked out and turned of my computer from the power cable...
Im playing on ati 4650 1gb GDDR3 memory, and this is first game that gave me this kind of problem. Btw im playing it on my laptop, and i havent had a single problem with any game whatsoever.. Even with Crysis and Crysis Warhead witch, I must say, are more graphical intense than this....
My lappy is 6months old and as I said, I havent had any lock ups till now and this kind of blocking/freezing into any game till this... |
rainbowish? only thing I can think of is your monitor failing, I had a backlight go bad in one of my lcd's and it started with some 'rainbowish' colors on the screen.
The only thing I can suggest is maybe changing your refresh rate but once a monitors backlight starts dieing, there is no stopping it, but if you laptop is only 6 months then it should be under warranty
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 05:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 05:36 Post subject: |
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Wahad
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 06:02 Post subject: |
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| HunterHare wrote: | | Wahad wrote: | So, I was playing an Iraqi mission, and then, all of a sudden, my display went rainbowish, and it starts to brightner when I freaked out and turned of my computer from the power cable...
Im playing on ati 4650 1gb GDDR3 memory, and this is first game that gave me this kind of problem. Btw im playing it on my laptop, and i havent had a single problem with any game whatsoever.. Even with Crysis and Crysis Warhead witch, I must say, are more graphical intense than this....
My lappy is 6months old and as I said, I havent had any lock ups till now and this kind of blocking/freezing into any game till this... |
rainbowish? only thing I can think of is your monitor failing, I had a backlight go bad in one of my lcd's and it started with some 'rainbowish' colors on the screen.
The only thing I can suggest is maybe changing your refresh rate but once a monitors backlight starts dieing, there is no stopping it, but if you laptop is only 6 months then it should be under warranty |
I found something, its driver related, i was on 10.3, i updated to 10.4 and its ok for now, temps are not goind above 70C so its not my ATI, and its not like display is failing its more like artifacts are floating around, but on frozen screen, music still playing on, effect either, just picture iz frozen... And it was becoming brighter and brighter... It scared shit ot of me since my last lappy died coz of overheating, but it was nvidia in it back then and their bad mobility (8600gt) series...
fucking ubisoft and their developers...
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 06:10 Post subject: |
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| Wahad wrote: | | HunterHare wrote: | | Wahad wrote: | So, I was playing an Iraqi mission, and then, all of a sudden, my display went rainbowish, and it starts to brightner when I freaked out and turned of my computer from the power cable...
Im playing on ati 4650 1gb GDDR3 memory, and this is first game that gave me this kind of problem. Btw im playing it on my laptop, and i havent had a single problem with any game whatsoever.. Even with Crysis and Crysis Warhead witch, I must say, are more graphical intense than this....
My lappy is 6months old and as I said, I havent had any lock ups till now and this kind of blocking/freezing into any game till this... |
rainbowish? only thing I can think of is your monitor failing, I had a backlight go bad in one of my lcd's and it started with some 'rainbowish' colors on the screen.
The only thing I can suggest is maybe changing your refresh rate but once a monitors backlight starts dieing, there is no stopping it, but if you laptop is only 6 months then it should be under warranty |
I found something, its driver related, i was on 10.3, i updated to 10.4 and its ok for now, temps are not goind above 70C so its not my ATI, and its not like display is failing its more like artifacts are floating around, but on frozen screen, music still playing on, effect either, just picture iz frozen... And it was becoming brighter and brighter... It scared shit ot of me since my last lappy died coz of overheating, but it was nvidia in it back then and their bad mobility (8600gt) series...
fucking ubisoft and their developers... |
well if its artifacts and screen freezing, thats totally different than rainbowish colors, it could of been vga drivers, overheating, or a failing cpu, i would of told you to check your temps and drivers.
lol you say fuck ubi and the devs but your problems are driver and heat related. gg
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 07:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 07:37 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: | | I'm saying I just can't understand why anyone would think it's fun. |
mary jane..... duh smoke a dubie before playing.... this should be in the manual, oh wait ubi went green and there is no manuals
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 09:26 Post subject: |
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| stemot wrote: | | Mortibus wrote: | | i enjoyed scc sp coz it actualy has storyline and not some generic missions go there hack this rinse repeat and coz co-op is hell of fun to play |
I'm with you on this. The personal tragedy introduced for Sam in this game raises it high above any of the other games storylines. I really couldn't give a toss about all that EMP bullshit. The story for me is how Sam never really could trust any of the people he called his friends. |
What.
The storyline is the WORST of all Splinter Cell games, it was not plausible at ANY TIME, and it had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese.
Why? (SPOILERS inbound:)
- Sam is the only person that could have stopped this crisis
- Someone in Reed's position could stone wall the President and not lose his job
- The President would shut down an agency of 3Ech's value, which managed to avert WWIII and resolve some of the greatest threats to national security in the past decade, because it wasn't justifying its funding.
- Sam, a man who believes in being utterly thorough and completely observant, would have never checked "Sarah's" body and would have taken Lambert's word for it
- Grim would taunt Sam about his daughter's death
- Grim, a technical computer specialist for a code breaking agency, ends up in a situation where she's interrogating and killing people (Don't say Reed's Third Echelon, because Grim is the most moral person in the series that we know of, and would never agree to this)
- Lambert would make the decision to lie to his best friend, fake his daughter's death and use that grief to push Sam into a job that he would have taken anyway, rather than letting Sam know about the situation, bringing him in on faking Sarah's death and using his help to catch the mole.
- Lambert, who faked Sarah's death to protect her from harm from a source inside 3Ech, based in Washington, would then decide that the best place to hide Sarah would be in Washington, rather than somewhere else in the country.
- After Sam has left Third Echelon and is no longer a part of the game (and therefore cannot is of no use to the mole trying to leverage him), the agency still does not tell him about faking his daughter's death, which was only done so that he could operate freely without being influenced by the mole. Rather, Grim and everyone else thinks it's just fine to leave them both think each other are dead, just in case they need to get Sam "back in the game" at a later stage?
- Reed decides that it's a good idea to rig his entire agency building to blow just in case of emergencies. The entire building as well mind you. With all of his people, resources and intelligence in there.
- Sam asks Vic for his help to secure Sarah's safety in the event that the EMPs go off. Vic, being a man who owns a PMC and who's trade is a security consultant, rather than getting his people to secure her at another safe location, decides that the best way to ensure the safety of his best friend's daughter is to take her in a helicopter, into a combat zone that contains one of the well equipped and armed PMCs on the planet, who most likely have lots of rocket launchers.
- Vic, Sam and Sarah get shot down by an RPG at a height of about 300-500m, yet none of them sustain any serious injuries after the chopper crashes to the ground and is mangled itself.
- Everyone in 3Ech, every single guard and Splinter Cell operative, who serve their country, have all become completely corrupted and agree with Reed's plan to raid the White House, kill ALL of the Secret Service in side and then assassinate the President. Keep in mind that they gain nothing from this. Reed is only doing it because he's getting a big fat promotion at the end of it.
- Anna Grimsdottir, who has no military training and is a computer specialist, is able to M&E three Splinter Cell operatives in a matter of seconds. Keep in mind that Victor Coste, while he was an active operator for the US Navy SEALs cannot even complete this move.
- Victor Coste, who owns his own PMC - Paladin Nine Security, that specialises in private security and kidnapping incidents, needs Sam Fisher to come break him out of a Black Arrow facility, rather than having his own specialist staff track him down and bust him out
- Splinter Cells wearing THIRD ECHELON patches on their shoulder, when they're the blackest of black ops agents and are therefore not supposed to carry ANY gear that can be used to identify who they are and where they're from
- Third Echelon agents, who work for a TOP SECRET Government organisation are wearing tops with big yellow 3ECH on the back of them
- The assassin who shoots Galliard just happens to know that he's going to spill the beans today, just happens to know that Fisher is talking to him and just happens to know what he's talking about is worth killing him over.
- The people who hired the assassin just happen to know that he's going he's going to kill Galliard and just happen to rig his car with explosives on this day to make sure Sam or anyone else can't get to him.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 09:40 Post subject: |
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It's a f&^%ing game. Relax and play it. You don't have to look for reality in a game.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 09:46 Post subject: |
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| masca90020 wrote: | | You don't have to look for reality in a game. |
Unless your playing second life 
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 09:52 Post subject: |
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| masca90020 wrote: | | It's a f&^%ing game. Relax and play it. You don't have to look for reality in a game. |
I'm going to ignore this post as well as the poster.
Also, most of us are in these forums, NOT to complain, or rant. Rather, we're here to offer constructive feedback to a game series that we've been longtime fans of. . It's all about constructive feedback. That being said... do you have anything constructive to offer, or are you only here to start pointless arguments?
| Quote: | | The personal tragedy introduced for Sam in this game raises it high above any of the other games storylines. I really couldn't give a toss about all that EMP bullshit. The story for me is how Sam never really could trust any of the people he called his friends. |
The aspects you're talking about have the potential to create a great story, because we've seen them in other stories delivered well.
The thing about Splinter Cell stories is that they take plots like international terrorism and global insecurity and put them in a Tom Clancy situation where things become gripping because they could just happen.
This isn't the case with Conviction. Not by a long shot. Even Sam's personal struggle that began in DA and the continuation in this instalment is defaced, belittled by the terrible mediocrity of the whole scenario. The issues with the Sarah storyline are so blatantly mismanaged, without any real thought to the consequences or the scenarios leading up to it, that it's just plain disappointing. The resulting scenario that they had to go through to make sense of this just warps every character in the series into something that is unrecognisable, dislikeable and unsatisfying to interact with.
It also does a spectacular job of maiming and belittling the people that we all experienced between Sam, Grim and Lambert in the first three games, because it's all not really worth a damn. It was all fake, it was all pointless and really the whole thing is just soiled.
But if it was the case in Conviction that thing had of been justified, plausible and well executed, then I would say, poetically speaking, that the reasons you like this story would be the reasons why Conviction would have the best story in the series.
But even the plot holes that follow your compliments on the story are enough to rule that out, due to the sloppy nature of the writing that is designed around altering and manipulating the characters of the story (without explanation or justification) through implausible action scenarios for cheap, first impression thrills, rather than sending them through a deep and enriching story that delivers more insight into their characters with a story that actually makes ANY sense at all.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 10:11 Post subject: |
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Finally, an opinion I can completely agree with.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 10:45 Post subject: |
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| Neon25 wrote: | | list of plot holes |
..so like i said.. a good "24: the game"
i expect consistency and good story and storytelling in a movie or tv series ( -> 24 has no story nor consistency -> is shit tv )
but i expect game to have good gameplay ( -> 24 has lots of fun action -> makes a fun game - this game )
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 10:45 Post subject: |
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| masca90020 wrote: | | It's a f&^%ing game. Relax and play it. You don't have to look for reality in a game. |
Its supposed to be SC, not some f*ck#ng Call of Duty
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 11:16 Post subject: |
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Yeah the funny thing is, the game is a piece of cake even on realistic if your run & gun, but if you stealth it can get pretty frustrating. Shouldn't that be the other way around?
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 12:48 Post subject: |
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| xGAME007 wrote: | | masca90020 wrote: | | It's a f&^%ing game. Relax and play it. You don't have to look for reality in a game. |
Its supposed to be SC, not some f*ck#ng Call of Duty |
Yes, I am disappointed too, but this is life. We don't get to make these decisions and Ubishit keeps on ruining good game series. This game can not be called SC, but it is still fun to play.
@Neon25 I don't want to start no argument, but you seemed to want more reality or maybe I understood wrong your post. As I said before, we don't get to make such decisions regarding a game. And if we get upset we don't have nothing to gain either.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 12:52 Post subject: |
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- Everyone in 3Ech, every single guard and Splinter Cell operative, who serve their country, have all become completely corrupted and agree with Reed's plan to raid the White House, kill ALL of the Secret Service in side and then assassinate the President. Keep in mind that they gain nothing from this. Reed is only doing it because he's getting a big fat promotion at the end of it
it was not 3 ech who attack to white house
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 14:03 Post subject: |
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| trancers wrote: | - Everyone in 3Ech, every single guard and Splinter Cell operative, who serve their country, have all become completely corrupted and agree with Reed's plan to raid the White House, kill ALL of the Secret Service in side and then assassinate the President. Keep in mind that they gain nothing from this. Reed is only doing it because he's getting a big fat promotion at the end of it
it was not 3 ech wich attack to white house |
Yes, they are. You kill 5 splinter cells with Grimsdottir when you meet Reed in the oval office. You fight 3E agents (splinter cells) in the white house.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 14:09 Post subject: |
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| Neon25 wrote: | | trancers wrote: | - Everyone in 3Ech, every single guard and Splinter Cell operative, who serve their country, have all become completely corrupted and agree with Reed's plan to raid the White House, kill ALL of the Secret Service in side and then assassinate the President. Keep in mind that they gain nothing from this. Reed is only doing it because he's getting a big fat promotion at the end of it
it was not 3 ech wich attack to white house |
Yes, they are. You kill 5 splinter cells with Grimsdottir when you meet Reed in the oval office. You fight 3E agents (splinter cells) in the white house. |
before you go in there is some video where they say it is black arrow who attack to white house and if there is some 3ech agents it is far from that they all is corrupted
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 14:15 Post subject: |
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When you kneecap the Vice President the 3E agents, SPLINTER CELLS, storm the place. They have sonar goggles, an equipment available only for 3E operatives, as indicated by the tech guy in 3E who gives them to you.
Besides, they have a fuckin Third Echelon logo on their arms...
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 14:27 Post subject: |
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Might contain small spoilers.
A pretty funny thing Ubisoft did for a stealth gadget like that is the loud sound it emits when activated just so you know it's being used by enemies, you can hear it even from distant rooms which feels pretty odd. (Like a area in the last level when those operatives storm a room you just entered, last couple of levels being mainly run & gun though with all sorts of oddities like tons of enemies and scripted action sequences with very little room for actual stealth elements to be effective and you still need to kill most enemies though it's probably possible to bypass a few areas using stealth.)
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 14:49 Post subject: |
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Haha, good posts Neon25, this game's story is really out of touch.
This game is gonna be forgotten really soon and will be considered the black sheep of the series.
Even the shooting mechanics are bad, they lack power/feel and they aren't convincing.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 15:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 4th May 2010 15:12 Post subject: |
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Actually, I'm playing the game on normal and have also noticed that at times there's some kind of autoaim going on. if the crosshair is near the enemies and then I zoom it goies automatically to the head.
This only happens when the crosshair is red (meaning within shooting range) and never when it's just plain white.
So yeah, I've noticed that as well.
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