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I really have no clue about this stuff. I have used vlc for ages for playing mkv files with no problems. How do i check the mkv?
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chiv
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 13:37 Post subject: |
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video/subtitle track is a good starting point - see what options are available?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 13:38 Post subject: |
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I thought you were speaking of something entirely different. I have checked, as said before there is both english and chinese there, but only chinese shows any subs when the navi speaks.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:00 Post subject: |
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VLC explains it all, actually  VLC is complete shit to be honest. Old codecs, incomplete support, etc. You have just experienced it. Get either Media Player Classic Homecinema or KMPlayer and ditch the crap. 
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:02 Post subject: |
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forgot to mention. Mediaplayer classic is actually where i got the <font color= , but im gonna check out KMPlayer now
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:03 Post subject: |
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well there are other ways.. you can download something like mkvmerge which will let you look at the individual items inside an mkv file... but you say youre new to this so id say best, cheapest, easiest option.... do a subtitle search... find the na'vi-only dialog in english for the wiki release, and use it like you would normally use some subs. that will work.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:04 Post subject: |
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i use zoomplayer and i likes it. never got into km.
i do use mpc hc as well though.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:25 Post subject: |
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with zoomplayer i got the <font color= crap again. It seems as there is english text just that im missing something to view them :S
I take it the directvobsub text is the navi text?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:39 Post subject: |
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just download the straight srt file for the wiki release for the english version of the navi-only subs. im sure theyre out there. just use those.
or download mkv extract, extract the sub file, and rip it yourself if youre feeling plucky.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:45 Post subject: |
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I did and it works now thanks. Still I hate not figuring out small problems like this
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:53 Post subject: |
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might not be a problem to figure out. wiki might have just fucked something up is all.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 14:58 Post subject: |
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No, they didn't, they just used some tool which adds these to the subtitle. It's all within the subtitle format's spec. Not their fault shit players don't support the spec. It's like blaming encoders for using H264 quality features because CoreAVC doesn't support them. 
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 16:30 Post subject: |
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| MistressDeath wrote: | I watch the Amiable 1080p version last night and it was fantastic. Only problem is that the nfo says Subtitles English Forced but there were no subtitles during the Navi language parts. What's up with that? Anyone else run into this?
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I have the release also. You have to select the subs from the player menu. There should be two entries. The Na'vi only and the regular the show throughout the movie. I watched it in VLC and looked great.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 16:53 Post subject: |
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yup I watched it on my WDTV and can confirm that you need to select the na'vi subs manually from the 2 included tracks.
they also have typos btw.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 17:15 Post subject: |
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Yeah I noticed capital letters at the end of a word etc. Also the font size is a bit too large. I don't think you can decrease it.
When I play the movie in Media Player Classic the subs don't show up at all. Don't know why.
I'm just wondering is it that difficult to include proper subs in a movie that can be turned on or off via the player menu? Some releases don't even include them for whatever reason or have typos like in the AMIABLE release.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 18:23 Post subject: |
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| digitalhex wrote: | Yeah I noticed capital letters at the end of a word etc. Also the font size is a bit too large. I don't think you can decrease it.
When I play the movie in Media Player Classic the subs don't show up at all. Don't know why.
I'm just wondering is it that difficult to include proper subs in a movie that can be turned on or off via the player menu? Some releases don't even include them for whatever reason or have typos like in the AMIABLE release. |
I just tried it in MPC HC and the subs are enabled by default and work perfectly fine.
And I can also change the size without any issues.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 18:44 Post subject: |
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| Surray wrote: | | digitalhex wrote: | Yeah I noticed capital letters at the end of a word etc. Also the font size is a bit too large. I don't think you can decrease it.
When I play the movie in Media Player Classic the subs don't show up at all. Don't know why.
I'm just wondering is it that difficult to include proper subs in a movie that can be turned on or off via the player menu? Some releases don't even include them for whatever reason or have typos like in the AMIABLE release. |
I just tried it in MPC HC and the subs are enabled by default and work perfectly fine.
And I can also change the size without any issues. |
Ok I figured it out. When using MPC HC I have Haali media splitter loading. When I click on the Haali icon in the taskbar I seen that the subs where turned off.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 21:11 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | ive heard of flawless. thats because i hang out in the rough part of town where pirates have two wooden legs and their parrots are fucking tigers.
theyre your usual p2p group, i know them mostly for stealing other groups 720 rips and releasing them as 2ish gb 'brrips'... they sometimes do r5s/dvdscrs n shit... i dont mind picking up their small releases, but i dont think id trust em enough for a 1080. |
Excuse me Sir, but from I´ve heard Flawless releases are simply the best. I know avatar´s release is 24gb, but it´s 1920x1080 @ 17 Mbps.
Dont talk shit unless you actually know what you´re talking about.
"eureka or flawl3ss which one do people recommend and why?
This release has:
- A higher bitrate which means it is higher quality [looks better]
- DTS MA rather than standard DTS [sounds better]
- Hardcoded English subtitles for Navi speech [for ease of use]
- The FLAWL3SS logo [is better]
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I dont know about this one. I do know about the 10gb one and its mint. It doesnt glitch once all the way through , has subs for non english parts , and is such wicked eye candy!!! Id like to know if anyone got both of the releases? Has anything been noticeable, difference wise, between the two? Thanks!
The scene release has a fairly starved bitrate and is blocky during high movement scenes. It's your choice whether you want to download this one, it's better quality if you want to keep it but if you have no intention to watch it again then I wouldn't bother."
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 21:26 Post subject: |
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| Pey wrote: | This release has:
- A higher bitrate which means it is higher quality [looks better]
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Once you reach transparency more bitrate doesn't add anything to quality. I don't claim that either of the encodes is totally transparent but more bitrate isn't always needed.
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- DTS MA rather than standard DTS [sounds better]
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Show me an abx log that proves you can abx a track encoded with DTS and DTSMA, consider it has to be from the same master (studios sometimes use slightly different masters for different audio tracks resulting in audible differences that aren't related to compression)
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- Hardcoded English subtitles for Navi speech [for ease of use]
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Hardcoded subs suck. They hurt compression by adding hard lines to the picture which is a nightmare for codecs. If you want untouched subtitles, you should add the untouched stream to the mkv.
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- The FLAWL3SS logo [is better] |
Possible.
I don't want to say that either version is better, but your arguments are not valid.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 21:39 Post subject: |
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Arguments are from flawless actually, but i will get either flawless or eureka, both releases are top notch.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2010 21:58 Post subject: |
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| kenny64 wrote: | | Well, its still weird that i've tried so many players now and none have played the navi subs |
| nouseforaname wrote: | | Avatar.2009.720p.BluRay.x264.DTS-WiKi.mkv is out, 10.1GB but you'll have to get the navi-only subs elsewhere since they are not included. |
I used navi subs taken from the cbgb release, and then used mkvmerge to add the .srt to the wiki .mkv (and delete the chinese while I was at it).
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2010 08:13 Post subject: |
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| Pey wrote: | | chiv wrote: | ive heard of flawless. thats because i hang out in the rough part of town where pirates have two wooden legs and their parrots are fucking tigers.
theyre your usual p2p group, i know them mostly for stealing other groups 720 rips and releasing them as 2ish gb 'brrips'... they sometimes do r5s/dvdscrs n shit... i dont mind picking up their small releases, but i dont think id trust em enough for a 1080. |
Excuse me Sir, but from I´ve heard Flawless releases are simply the best. I know avatar´s release is 24gb, but it´s 1920x1080 @ 17 Mbps.
Dont talk shit unless you actually know what you´re talking about. |
i said i dont trust flawless because theyre a shitty outfit that exists solely on other groups work, repackaged/recycled with their name slapped on it... just went through and grabbed a couple of random flawless releases to check their info..
Shutter Island (2010) 720p TC LiNE XviD MP3-FLAWL3SS
Source...............: Blu-Ray/Telecine/Who Knows
Used the same audio as everyone else, whether this is actually HD or just an upscaled DVD is a debate for another time.
A.Bugs.Life.BRRip.720p.XviD.AC3-FLAWL3SS
Encode Source........: CANT REMEMMBER LOL
Shes Out Of My League (2009) TS.XviD-FLAWL3SS
Source...............: DvD-R IMAGINE
Original Audio....... IMAGINE
Kung.Fu.Panda.2008.720p.BRRip.XviD.AC3-FLAWL3SS
Source...............: 1080p EuReKA
Avatar.2009.480p.BRRip.XviD.AC3-FLAWL3SS
Source...............: Avatar.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-TDM
and after what you said about what they think constitutes a 'high end 1080p release', yeah... im sticking by my statement. i dont think much of flawless at all.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2010 12:37 Post subject: |
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yeah you like flawless, i get it, thats your business, just like some people think that axxo is 'teh shit'. i dont understand those people either, but whatever thats your business.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2010 13:03 Post subject: |
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but... but.. they have more than 50 releases...!!111
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2010 13:06 Post subject: |
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Dude... i dont like flawless, I´ve never downloaded a flawless release actually, I´ve been reading forums about all avatar releases and most ppl say flawless and eureka are the best, that´s all, chill.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2010 13:13 Post subject: |
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then what was all
| Pey wrote: | | Dont talk shit unless you actually know what you´re talking about. |
about? seems you dont know shit about them, so seems a tad hypocritical.
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