ARMA 2 [NR / 2008]
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 17:22    Post subject:
ClifftonBeach wrote:
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if you can afford a PC that can run arma and afford internet, im sure 19 euros wont break your wallet if you like the game and want to play it MP

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They don't deserve my money.

then don't give them any of your time either. You're never getting it back

I know what the purpose of this forum is, it's why we're all here. But the bullshit reasons are starting to get old. Can't afford it? What you just found a gaming rig in a dumpster? Don't deserve your money? Bullshit, if you feel like playing it. At least be fucking honest with yourselves.


I'm 100% honest with myself. But, I like how you quoted me and then took the message completely out of context. Notice how I said I didn't play it, eh? I guess you didn't read that though? Rage kicked in too early?

Of course everyone knows what goes on here. But at the same time there is a lot of good information here. I actually trust this place for game reviews more than the mainstream gaming websites. You can get mostly honest assessments as far as gameplay, bugs, etc that you don't get from magazines or "real" websites as their pockets are often padded and their reviews are often glorified advertisements.

Like I said, I didn't play ARMA II. I played the first one. It was a bug fest. And, from reading what people said here, this one was too. So it's not worth my time. Period. I also haven't played many other of the games on here that I don't think are worth my time. I may try them; if I like them I buy them when I have the money. I vote with my wallet AND my time. I haven't played AC2, SH5, and Settlers 7. Fuck ubisoft and their DRM too. And C&C4. Shit game and shit DRM. I didn't bother trying it.

And my gaming machine? HA! I use an old first gen dual core (not even core2duo) E2140. I've got 3 gigs of mismatched slow ram. And a couple generation old 9800gtx+. Yeah, I spent TONS of money on my gaming machine. Rolling Eyes
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LMLM




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Apr 2010 15:25    Post subject:
Yeah from my experience Arma2 is a real system hog so don't waste your money on it until you get a good rig. I had rather high hopes for the game and was disappointed. Haven't played it much at all.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Apr 2010 15:34    Post subject:
Finally bought the game. 1.05 patch is good and playable. Mods are of course what makes this game shine.. still a little disappointed in online scene, same old coop everywhere. I'd say if any of you are thinking getting this game for pr arma 2

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f440-pr-arma2-general-discussion

it's now in 1.05 decent condition and I can see pr devs delivering a good pvp mod.

That is all Smile
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soldat37




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Apr 2010 20:34    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
fearwhatnow wrote:


First off all, this game's price now ranges from 12-19 Euros.I guess you can afford that.
Then, protection policy is not so simple as you think.We're talking about money here.There are many protections that are difficult to bypass/crack.Out Of The Park Baseball 10 has a difficult protection too (e-license or smth like this).


First, it's not up to you to decide who can or cannot afford anything. You don't know their situation in life. Second, I don't think any game that isn't a good game in it's vanilla form, is worth buying. Why should you buy their game if it's shit out of the box and requires community mods to remove bugs and make it playable?

That's the sole reason I haven't played this game. Just like ARMA, it was plagued with bugs and performance issues on release. They don't deserve my money.


I've been buying BIS titles since OFP.It most certainly is worth the money but hey if you don't like it that's your opinion.I am glad they have Fade to keep people like yourself from getting it.And this BS about Arma 2 being bugged is nonsense,all those major bugs have been fixed.Just because a game has bugs doesn't make the title worthless.I laugh at this sorry excuse every time its brought up.ALL games have bugs on release and most get fixed.Be thankful there are teams of people working long hours to fix issues.

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They don't deserve my money.


And you don't deserve to play it.
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juniR




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Apr 2010 20:45    Post subject:
soldat37 wrote:
And you don't deserve to play it.


And you don't deserve to play with him if you gonna be like that Laughing Laughing Laughing

PS - I like this game myself - it's different Cool
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soldat37




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Apr 2010 20:48    Post subject:
juniR wrote:
soldat37 wrote:
And you don't deserve to play it.


And you don't deserve to play with him if you gonna be like that Laughing Laughing Laughing

PS - I like this game myself - it's different Cool


Laughing Very Happy
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juniR




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 19:21    Post subject:
This week less than 5 euros for ARMA 1 & 2 pack direct2drive

http://www.direct2drive.eu/promos/spring-sale/

Pissed me off tbh - just payed 3 times that recently for ARMA 2 alone Sad


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K155-MII-A55 Let me know if it works.
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invalid for steam. didn't try origin.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 19:42    Post subject:
Cheers for headsup!


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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 20:34    Post subject:
juniR wrote:
This week less than 5 euros for ARMA 1 & 2 pack direct2drive

http://www.direct2drive.eu/promos/spring-sale/

Pissed me off tbh - just payed 3 times that recently for ARMA 2 alone Sad


No such luck for me. It's still $25 for arma2 alone (d2d that is). Hell, last time I checked it was still $40 on steam. Keys on g2play are cheap but they're always out of stock.

I hope the demo for arma2 isn't indicative of the state the game is in today. I hope it is equivalent to when the game was first released and they haven't bothered to patch the demo. In the few hours I tried it I had so many problems there is NO way I'd buy the game, even for $10. Mission scripting problems. The cobra during the training mission going batshit crazy all of the sudden. At one point the game minimized from an incoming IM as I forgot to close it first. When I switched back to the game the image was shifted halfway across the screen. I switched to another resolution and it was fine. Switched back to the native res and it was still screwed. A couple of random crashes as well. It just seems to me, like others said when the game first came out, that it was released unpolished and well before it was finished. And, god, the voice acting is HORRIBLE. hahaha.

So, based on the demo, no way I'd buy this game. Not worth the time to download it even. And if the demo isn't indicative of the current state of the game, perhaps they should either pull the demo or keep it patched so it's current. A shit demo is bad advertisement for the product
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 20:43    Post subject:
The demo uses an old gameversion indeed. There's been 3 or so patches since.
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soldat37




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 20:50    Post subject:
LMLM wrote:
Yeah from my experience Arma2 is a real system hog so don't waste your money on it until you get a good rig. I had rather high hopes for the game and was disappointed. Haven't played it much at all.



Bunch of disinformation going on here.I have no lag playing this.Its a lame excuse to pass off a game based off speculation and nonsense spread by others.I tend to think for myself.At any rate,your loss.We have a big community that do enjoy it.Its certainly not for everyone.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 20:53    Post subject:
soldat37 wrote:
LMLM wrote:
Yeah from my experience Arma2 is a real system hog so don't waste your money on it until you get a good rig. I had rather high hopes for the game and was disappointed. Haven't played it much at all.



Bunch of disinformation going on here.I have no lag playing this.Its a pretty pathetic excuse to pass off a game based off speculation and nonsense spread by others.I tend to think for myself.

At any rate,your loss.We have a big community that do enjoy it.Its certainly not for everyone.

Don't be so butthurt, he's right : ArmA2 is an ultra-heavy game. You absolutely need a good rig.

Only a fanboy would disagree with that. Rolling Eyes
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soldat37




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 21:00    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:


Only a fanboy would disagree with that. Rolling Eyes


Fanboy?Whats with these immature and lame titles these days?When your behind a product for nearly 10 years your no fanboy.You know the insides and out of the product.I speak from experience.I don't buy this pathetic excuse passed around here frequently that bugs are a good reason to pirate or completely bypass a great product.They occur in even the best games and most are usually fixed in time.Its also interesting that this bug excuse for Arma 2 keeps getting passed around long after they were fixed,it just goes to show that those passing around this disinformation haven't played the game at all and if they did,it has not been since the initial release.Funny how some kids are so damn impatient these days and will make up crap just to blow steam and stir the pot.
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 21:16    Post subject:
soldat37 wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:


Only a fanboy would disagree with that. Rolling Eyes


Fanboy?Whats with these immature and lame titles these days?When your behind a product for nearly 10 years your no fanboy.You know the insides and out of the product.I speak from experience.I don't buy this pathetic excuse passed around here frequently that bugs are a good reason to pirate or completely bypass a great product.They occur in even the best games and most are usually fixed in time.Its also interesting that this bug excuse for Arma 2 keeps getting passed around long after they were fixed,it just goes to show that those passing around this disinformation haven't played the game at all and if they did,it has not been since the initial release.Funny how some kids are so damn impatient these days and will make up crap just to blow steam and stir the pot.


Kids. hahah. Right. I haven't pirated this. I've played only the demo. If the company isn't going to bother updating their demo, fuck them. I'm not buying their game. YOU say the game is fixed. I say bullshit. If they're not going to give me the opportunity to try the game in a non-fucked up state then they're not getting my money. Is that so hard for you to understand? It's not an excuse. It's not making up crap to blow steam. It's a freaking FACT. The demo is buggy as hell. The game was buggy as hell (at least when it was first released). There's no way in hell I'm taking your CLEARLY biased opinion of the current state of the game as a fact. I want to know first hand. And my choice is to either pirate it or play the demo. I chose the demo. Sale lost! (but, hey, their releasing of a game in a bug filled state is great copy protection as I wouldn't even bother pirating it based on the demo)
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Apr 2010 21:24    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
No such luck for me. It's still $25 for arma2 alone (d2d that is). Hell, last time I checked it was still $40 on steam. Keys on g2play are cheap but they're always out of stock.


Yeah I noticed the prices varied - it's twice the price in the UK as it is in Europe and thankfully I have both options - in fact I can buy on the US site as well if I want though I have to wait and see what tax is added. You only need the key though and it works out at less than 7 dollars if you can get a friend to buy.

Oh and the game is a resource hog - it's the worst thing about it. The forums are riddled with people trying to maintain 20fps lol... I know cos I been trying all the performance boosts and it's only just ok at 30+ for me. I think they could done summat better there cos it's sure cos them in sales.... and sorry soldat but when you're behind summat for ten years you can hardly claim to be that objective m8. Anyway the game(s) are defo worth the European price imho - if I'd have payed that for Arma 2 alone I woulda bought more fuckin' beer Twisted Evil
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soldat37




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Apr 2010 01:35    Post subject:
AMD Quad core.1GB video card and 6GB of ram.No issues for me.When you want something to run well you should have a system far over any requirements.Thats just common sense in the gaming world.Regardless this isn't some game for the faint of heart.Its a military infantry combat sim.That in itself steers a lot of people away and for good reason.If you don't like it for whatever reason then good for you.You can move on over to Dragon Sinking or some other completely inferior product.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 18:58    Post subject:
Operation Arrowhead, June 29th. Smile
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63433
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Guys i got a question , little offtopic..........is any sense to changing from 5870 to
GTX 470 ? I ask cause like i see on Dx 11 in tesselation this GTX's is 50% better than ati
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 19:07    Post subject:
No way. Massive waste of money.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 19:16    Post subject:
Synthetic benchmarks will show it faster (Unigine 2.0 "extreme" mode and the like.) but more real comparisons using actual game scenarios mostly shows somewhat around a 10 - 15% performance gain difference (From what I read, hope I got the numbers right.) outside of clear NVIDIA favored titles most of the time. (With exceptions of course, ATI pulls ahead now and again and of course they have their "own" titles.) but the 400 series is quite fast although costly and somewhat hot and at times loud, should be better with latest firmware in place however.)

(Also this is between a 5870 and a 480 card, unsure where the 470 lands but probably above a 5850 and at times competing with the 5870 in certain titles.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 19:40    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Operation Arrowhead, June 29th. Smile
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63433


Maybe they'll finally update their demo although I doubt it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 19:53    Post subject:
If anything we'll probably see a demo for the new game though I haven't heard anything about something like that, future support for ArmA 2 would be nice as well instead of just focusing on the expansion but ArmA 2 has been pretty well supported.
(Latest patch is still a beta but improved quite nicely with every update, probably as with the first game mods will have to fix and improve the rest whereas total conversions focus it even more on realism or such things.)
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soldat37




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 20:25    Post subject:
Although its not the latest and greatest I run this on a GTS 250 1GB.It runs fine for me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 21:05    Post subject:
oh hell they made it standalone now ? wtf, how much i wonder eh eh.. full price game? If so im saying goodbye to the tossers, what a joke, it wont be fucking new mark my words it will be arma2 as it was originaly going to be with the "addon expansion". Arrowhead...

This is just another way of milking more cash once again i bet.. if its cheap let me know ill be suprised though.. Wink

crazy .....
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 21:28    Post subject:
As far as I know it was always meant to be separate from the "base" game, not a full sequel but more than just a separate campaign with extras like how the expansion for ArmA 1 was handled.
(I guess it will split the community a bit, at least until ArmA 2 itself is ported over to this new build by someone, it's pretty moddable and can probably be done haha.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 22:06    Post subject:
I challenge you to find any product on the market that can compare.There really is no choice except for maybe BF2 with the project reality mod.Arrowhead adds a whole new theater as well as US Army,British Army,German and several others,flir is now incorporated as well as aiming lasers.too much to list.I fail to see how its just a re-release.A ton of new things have been added here.You don't need a whole new graphics engine every time something is released.I am old school.I prefer playability and fun factor over the newest eye candy.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Apr 2010 23:38    Post subject:
soldat37 wrote:
I challenge you to find any product on the market that can compare.There really is no choice except for maybe BF2 with the project reality mod.Arrowhead adds a whole new theater as well as US Army,British Army,German and several others,flir is now incorporated as well as aiming lasers.too much to list.I fail to see how its just a re-release.A ton of new things have been added here.You don't need a whole new graphics engine every time something is released.I am old school.I prefer playability and fun factor over the newest eye candy.




You've got a serious reading comprehension problem.
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 10:56    Post subject:
I dont need a challenge, ive played arma series from the start many moons ago, I personally think they can do a better job with the engine, that be use something diff rather than a modified one that found it hard to stand its ground with all the new "eyecandy" that you say u dont need, thats fine...
But with that in mind, I would also be happy if they just kept it simple on looks, i played ww2online for ages as well the gfx didnt bother me in that, I just wish they would not ramp up the looks of a game without the backbone to support it these days..
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 12:34    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Operation Arrowhead, June 29th. Smile
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63433


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PRESS RELEASE
ARMA 2: OPERATION ARROWHEAD ARRIVES IN JUNE

STANDALONE EXPANSION PACK LAUNCHES JUNE 29TH

Prague, Czech Republic, April 22nd – Award-winning independent development studio Bohemia Interactive today confirmed that Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead, the forthcoming standalone expansion pack for Arma 2, best military simulator of 2009, will be available to buy across the globe from June 29th. Developed as a massive standalone expansion pack enlarging Arma 2 to a completely new level, Operation Arrowhead promises to deliver yet more of the highly authentic military simulation gameplay the series is famed for, while shifting the action to an all-new environment and adding key new features to Arma 2’s already vast palette.

Set in the fictional region of Takistan and taking place three years after the Arma 2’s campaign, Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead features three new world maps with radical new terrain; sandy deserts, a dense city with surrounding countryside and a rocky mountainous region. Also included in the standalone expansion pack is support for controlling unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to observe, strike and rescue from afar, along with a fully-modelled FLIR thermal imaging simulation with unprecedented realism to give the player advantages while working at night, going as far as to model vehicle engine heat, tyre friction and even glowing weapon barrels after being fired. A new campaign is included, with Bohemia Interactive taking the experience gained from its previous games, combined with real world events and political intrigue, to create a storyline that serves as a chilling reminder to the geo-political situation the world finds itself in on a constant basis. Other new features include a detachable backpack system for carrying more weapons and ammunition, and an overhauled optics system allowing keen marksmen to ‘zero in’ their scopes to account for ballistic fall-off.

ARMA 2: Operation Arrowhead employs a third-generation engine benefitting from more than a decade of continual development and unique experience in implementing new technologies and procedures. Named the Real Virtuality engine, it is widely recognised as the premier platform for modern military simulations where realism and technical accuracy are crucial. Bohemia Interactive Studio’s Real Virtuality engine is used as a base for real-world training simulators implemented by numerous governments and militaries around the world including the United States Marine Corps, the United Kingdom Minstry of Defence and the Australian Defence Force.

ARMA 2: Operation Arrowhead features in full:

• New Playable Content: New story campaign for both single and multi-player gameplay. Wide range of new tutorials, single scenarios and multiplayer modes.

• Massive Game World: Three brand new Central Asia-style large maps including expansive urban, desert and mountainous terrain, featuring a fully destructible and interactive environment.

• Extra Units and Vehicles: Multiple factions for all sides including US Army, United Nations, Takistani Army and Guerrillas making a collection of 300+ new units, weapons and vehicles.
• Ultimate War Simulation Experience: Fully integrates with the original ARMA 2 for unmatched warfare simulation.

• Unique Gameplay Elements: Detachable backpacks with equipment, advanced weapon optics, material penetration modeling, remote real-time simulation of Unmanned Arial Vehicles (UAV), freedom of decision and repercussive actions.

Arma 2: Operation Arrohwead will be released on 29th June exclusively for PC. For all the latest information please visit www.arma2.com

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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 13:00    Post subject:
twobells wrote:
ARMA 2: Operation Arrowhead employs a third-generation engine benefitting from more than a decade of continual development and unique experience in implementing new technologies and procedures


Unfortunately the game engine performs terribly on my machine. Quad core Q9500, 4GB of RAM and an ati 4870. Ten+ years of development and the game is extremely clunky with erratic performance and MP lag and rubber banding.

(also note they misspell 'benefitting' with two t's in their press release, more sloppiness)
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