Nvidia 257.15 BETA Drivers out
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Mar 2010 11:53    Post subject: Nvidia 257.15 BETA Drivers out
This is the first driver release from the Release 256 family of drivers (versions 256.xx to 259.xx). This driver package supports GeForce 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, 200, 300, and 400-series desktop GPUs as well as ION desktop GPUs. Learn more about Release 256 drivers here .

New in Version 257.15

* Adds support for Blu-ray 3D with NVIDIA 3D Vision technology. Learn more about the hardware and software requirements here .
* Increases performance for GeForce GTX 400 Series GPUs in several PC games. The following are examples of some of the most significant improvements measured with GeForce GTX 480. Results will vary depending on your GPU and system configuration:

o Up to 14% in Aliens vs. Predator (1920x1200 noAA/AF – Tessellation on)
o Up to 4% in Batman: Arkham Asylum (1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF PhysX=High)
o Up to 5% in BattleForge (1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Very High settings)
o Up to 5% in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF)
o Up to 4% in Crysis: Warhead (1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Enthusiast setting)
o Up to 24% in Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (1920x1200 no AA/AF)
o Up to 9% in Far Cry 2 (2560x1600 8xAA/16xAF)
o Up to 25% in Just Cause 2 (2560x1600 no AA/AF - Concrete Jungle)
o Up to 7% in Metro 2033 (1920x1200 no AA/16xAF – Tessellation on)
o Up to 40% in Metro 2033 with SLI ((1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF – Tessellation on)
o Up to 8% in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (1920x1200 no AA/AF – Day)
o Up to 110% in Stone Giant with SLI (2650x1600 – Tessellation on, DoF on)
o Up to 6% in The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena (2560x1600 no AA/AF)
o Up to 9% in Unigine: Tropics (2560x1600 no AA/AF – OpenGL)
o Up to 5% in 3DMark Vantage (Performance and Extreme Presets)
o Up to 19% with Transparency AA (1920x1200 4xTrSS – measured in Crysis)

* Upgrades PhysX System Software to version 9.10.0222.
* Adds support for OpenGL 4.0 for GeForce GTX 400 Series GPUs.
* Adds support for CUDA Toolkit 3.1 which includes significant performance increases for double precision math operations. See CUDA Zone for more details.
* Adds support for new extreme Antialiasing modes for 3-way SLI PCs, including up to SLI48x AA for GeForce 200 series GPUs and up to SLI96x AA for GeForce GTX 400 series GPUs.
* Adds support for a new ‘Quality’ mode for NVIDIA’s Ambient Occlusion control panel feature.
* Adds a new NVIDIA Control Panel setup page for SLI and PhysX for ultimate control over multi-gpu configurations.
* Adds a new NVIDIA Control Panel feature for ultimate control over CUDA GPUs, allowing the user to effectively choose which GPU will power each CUDA application.
* 3D Vision customers can download the v257.15 3D Vision drivers here.
* Includes numerous bug fixes. Refer to the release notes on the documentation tab for information about the key bug fixes in this release.
* Users without US English operating systems can select their language and download the International driver here.

Additional Information:

* Installs HD Audio driver version 1.0.9.1 (for supported GPUs).
* Supports the new GPU-accelerated features in Adobe CS5.
* Supports GPU-acceleration for smoother online HD videos with Adobe Flash 10.1. Learn more here.
* Supports the new version of MotionDSP's video enhancement software, vReveal, which adds support for HD output. NVIDIA customers can download a free version of vReveal that supports up to SD output here.
* Supports DirectCompute with Windows 7 and GeForce 8-series and later GPUs.
* Supports OpenCL 1.0 (Open Computing Language) for all GeForce 8-series and later GPUs.
* Supports OpenGL 3.2 for GeForce 8-series and later GPUs.
* Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, DirectX 11, and OpenGL, including 3-way SLI, Quad SLI, and SLI support on SLI-certified Intel X58-based motherboards.
* Supports GPU overclocking and temperature monitoring by installing NVIDIA System Tools software.

64-bit - http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-257.15-beta.html
32-bit - http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-257.15-beta.html


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Mar 2010 12:17    Post subject:
I see that the EVR CP bug is still present and broken Sad

"-EVR bug which started in 196.75 and is still present in 197.13 will be fixed in the next driver release." - http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t163183-50.html

Will be fixed in next driver release *slow clap* ...
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Mar 2010 17:25    Post subject:
i've never had that problem u described, with any driver
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Mar 2010 18:09    Post subject:
.. yet a Nvidia rep admits the bug and states it will be corrected.

Anyhow, I rolled back to the 196.34's and no issues with anything Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Apr 2010 19:35    Post subject:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=319377

197.45 "GT400" drivers, seems INF modding might be possible to get the new stuff working on older generation cards.
(Well old and old, GT200 still is pretty powerful for the 260 model and above, seems they're discontinued though to favor GT460 - coming soon - GT470 and GT480 or something like that.)

Supposedly includes new PhysX revision as well, probably the one from Metro 2033 or something just a tad newer.

EDIT:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/197.41/197.41_Win7_WinVista_Desktop_Release_Notes.pdf


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Apr 2010 19:43    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Well old and old, GT200 still is pretty powerful for the 260 model and above, seems they're discontinued though to favor GT460 - coming soon - GT470 and GT480 or something like that.

If you mean driver wise, they won't be discontinuing that for a while Smile

The actual product lines were discontinued though, back in Sep/Oct 2009. Way before the Fermi release. And with discontinued, I do mean discontinued: they were given the EOL status Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Apr 2010 19:52    Post subject:
Ofcourse, I meant the actual hardware, driver wise it'll still be supported in major Forceware driver releases and beta versions as well I imagine, this specific driver being mainly a release version for NVIDIA GT400 series of GPU's as I believe the default driver was a beta version.

Release notes (Just posted as a edit.) looks pretty solid as well though I have not followed Fermi development much.

Initial model does draw a bit above the average in power consumption and do get pretty hot (But can handle it, although still downclocks a bit if above 105 celsius I believe it was set to.) but ATI had similar problems with it's initial HD 2000 series later refined and now at the HD 5000 series so NVIDIA will most likely improve this GPU design with either the 485 or similar or the next GT500 serie.
(ATI is already busy with the 6000 series, things are going pretty fast now it seems, nice with some real competition.)

EDIT: To be more fair both ATI and NVIDIA's current cards can handle over 100c (Although they can handle up to 115 or so before shutting down it's not recommended they get that hot of course.) and with the new bios which ups the fan speeds a bit and makes it more responsive even the 480 is somewhere around 70 - 85c most of the time. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Apr 2010 20:48    Post subject:
Well to be honest, that 85 degrees is with the fan spinning at 80% fanspeed, at which point it's incredibly loud.

Like I said in the Fermi thread (to much hate from the NVIDIA fanboys) Fermi as it stands now is a shit product, but on a good architecture. It draws even with the 5870, but at twice the noise and far more heat/power consumption. I know most think none of this matter, but then there's the price; which is 70% more than a 5870 Smile

The real battle will come with the Fermi refresh, which should still be on schedule for Q3/Q4 this year. At the same time ATI will have revised RV870, which has proven to be the most rocksolid product since G80 Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Apr 2010 00:06    Post subject:
Quote:
"When you build a high performance GPU like the GTX 480 it will consume a lot of power to enable the performance and features I listed above. It was a tradeoff for us, but we wanted it to be fast. The chip is designed to run at high temperature so there is no effect on quality or longevity. We think the tradeoff is right.".


-Drew Henry, the company's General Manager of GeForce

and i agree with him.

+ If you can afford to buy such a card, you usually have the right equipment around it aswell (Quality Tower with lots of airflow/fans etc).

+ the 480 has ~ the same temps as the 285 and the 295

- Only thing or sure is of the charts, is the power consumption. 460W under load ! (295 is still top at 470W, but thats 2 cards in 1 right ?) while the 5870 is at 353W. (PS: idle its at 175W which is on par with all other cards around there).

Oh well, we will see what comes next. Right now i'm still thinking of buying either a 480 or a 470. More real life tests to check and reviews to read and then to decide
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Apr 2010 13:27    Post subject:
Heat and power consumption aside, this thing has 2 more things that are just wrong on every level:
- The noise. That is ridiculous.
- The price. The noise is ridiculous, but there is just no word for the price. It costs 70% more than a 5870, whilst performing 5-10% more at best.

It's not the card itself that's horrible, and temperatures are fine, the cards can handle it. It's everything else. Why would anyone pay 70% more for a 5% average higher performance, but with twice the noise and power consumption compared to the competitor's product? Only fanboys would consider such a purchase. Happened with ATI fanboys a few years ago, and now it's the NVIDIA fanboys doing it.

And if it's about performance, then the 5970 still beats the 480 in every single situation, and despite being a dual-GPU card it consumes less power, is not as loud and only generates about the same amount of heat. Oh, and it costs the same.

Honestly Sin, what is driving you to still want one of these things? I tried to get a good argument out of Slizza and DV2, but they both seem to lack the braincells to back their statements up.
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 08:35    Post subject:
i have to agree, that i may be a bit biased towards nivida. Not fanboish but i guess close (been using nvidia since the geforce 2 lol). However i have to say, i am actually more and more sceptic about buying the 4xx and checking deeper if a 5x wouldnt be the smarter move.


add: for example :

http://www.alcom.ch/comp.php?waszeig=top&artnummer=te08473

(thats 361€ or 485$ against 613 CHF/ 426€/585 $ for the ASUS 480)
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 10:56    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
I tried to get a good argument out of Slizza and DV2, but they both seem to lack the braincells to back their statements up.

Laughing Laughing

You are still banging on about this...how many posts repeating yourself is that now?
I bet you are doing this on other forums too, can't get enough.
Are you the Boundle of ATI?
You have a major hardon over the GTX480 vs HD5870 and seem to be able to think about little else.
Don't be a complete loser all your days, try log off the PC and find another human being to associate with..maybe even a female.
With your limited conversational skills and desperate need for attention, it's going to be difficult, but you should give it a shot.


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 11:15    Post subject:
Yeah Slizza, you taking it personally now really shows your maturity. I'm pretty sure I get out more than you, you throwing a remark like that my way says more about you than it does about me.

And I don't do this on other forums, because on other forums (mainly tech forums) even the NVIDIA fanboys have noticed how bad the GF100 really is. Difference is that you can't engage in a mature discussion, whereas they can. Makes me wonder what you do in real life to be honest, because it sure as hell isn't anything tech related.

@ Sin: That's actually quite pricey for the 5870, you should be able to get it for around 325 EUR. And I doubt that you can actually get that 480 for that price, you'll get put on a backorder list. A lot of shops did that with the 5870 as well, selling it for less than the buy-in price at 270; people who paid that also had to wait 3 months until all the other orders had been processed though. At that price they're losing money on the card Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 11:24    Post subject:
well the 4xx aren't even instock here yet, so thats also a big reason for me NOT to buy one now ^^

and here the price list for the 5870 in €

http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?k3=2358&offset=0&manu=&filter=5870&o=pa
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 11:37    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
Yeah Slizza, you taking it personally now really shows your maturity. I'm pretty sure I get out more than you, you throwing a remark like that my way says more about you than it does about me.

And I don't do this on other forums, because on other forums (mainly tech forums) even the NVIDIA fanboys have noticed how bad the GF100 really is. Difference is that you can't engage in a mature discussion, whereas they can. Makes me wonder what you do in real life to be honest, because it sure as hell isn't anything tech related.

@ Sin: That's actually quite pricey for the 5870, you should be able to get it for around 325 EUR. And I doubt that you can actually get that 480 for that price, you'll get put on a backorder list. A lot of shops did that with the 5870 as well, selling it for less than the buy-in price at 270; people who paid that also had to wait 3 months until all the other orders had been processed though. At that price they're losing money on the card Smile

Explain how this reflects on myself more then mr psychiatrist.
Is saying we lack braincells in your last post not a personal digg?
Rolling Eyes
turn that analysis round on yourself whilst you are at it then.

Thanks for yet another astonishingly fast reply though...
Guess there are some advantages of you being a loser who doesn't get out.


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 11:56    Post subject:
why would anyone force anything in to anyone, it's like ppl who drive bimmers would be forced to buy mercs or other way around just coz they are more efficient
serious lulz
yes some prefer nvidia to ati, some prefer live in alaska instead of miami Embarassed
pwerelds really need to get out more and leave this better than that a rest
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Apr 2010 12:29    Post subject:
@ Sin: Those prices look more accurate, although I'm still surprised by the amount of cheap 480's on there. I'm wondering what the actual deliver rates are Cool Face
Your prices are only slightly higher than ours, by a few euros. About 5-10 on most products by the looks of it Smile

@ Mortibus: I'm not forcing anything on anyone, I only asked Slizza to explain his reasoning ages ago, and he just started insulting. Having to resort to that shit rather than admitting you're wrong says enough to be honest. Sin also didn't agree with me in the Fermi thread, but he actually tried giving arguments and has now come to realise that the 480 might not be a good choice. Probably because he actually bothered reading the posts I and others made (Sabin, Leo for example).

@ Slizza: I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. Every fact that any of us have thrown at you is met with an insult of some kind rather than a counter-fact or at least a well supported opinion. May I remind you that all I did in the Fermi thread was posting confirmed facts, and that almost everything has turned out to be correct - the price/performance ratio is fucking terrible and it's noisy as hell (the only 2 factors you say you care about). You're the one who started insulting those of us who weren't buying all the marketing bullshit, not the other way around.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Apr 2010 16:42    Post subject:
197.45
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=319632

(Easier to link it like that as it has everything summarized. Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th May 2010 12:23    Post subject:
EVR CP bug fixed in the 257.15's \o/
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th May 2010 14:21    Post subject:
wtf is the "EVR CP" Bug anyway ?
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th May 2010 14:39    Post subject:
EVR is a video renderer (Enhanced Video Renderer Razz) first present in Vista if I'm not mistaken, and it was bugged for a long time on NVIDIA cards causing jerky playback as one of it's smallest problems. Some people had their player crashing, etcetera Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th May 2010 15:17    Post subject:
Praying to hope this driver has any effect to my 880gts 640 Crying or Very sad
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