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 Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 01:33 Post subject: OS Selection at Startup gone |
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I have 2 partitions, one is XP the other is Windows 7.
I had to format and re-install the XP partition but now the OS select screen at startup is gone and I can't get back into Win7!
Can somebody help me please? Its kinda urgent!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 01:49 Post subject: |
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Boot from 7 DVD or recovery disk and repair your startup. 
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 02:02 Post subject: |
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Thanks but I just used EasyBCD to restore it.
But now it tells me my Windows 7 is not genuine anymore, guess I need a new loader?
Could somebody recommend me one?
Somethings wrong with my XP, it keeps freezing and rebooting, thats why I originally did a format but now the same shit is happening again.
Windows 7 seems to work fine.
I ran a chkdsk and the HDD seems to be fine too, RAM is also ok.
Damn it what the hell is happening. I'm tired and want to go to sleep but I can't now that everything is fucked up.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 02:23 Post subject: |
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You need a new loader, because the loader you used previously probably put itself in memory during booting. You can use the loader found in my guide (stickied in this section) or RemoveWAT, also from MyDifitalLife forums.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 13:36 Post subject: |
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| Shocktrooper wrote: | Thanks but I just used EasyBCD to restore it.
But now it tells me my Windows 7 is not genuine anymore, guess I need a new loader?
Could somebody recommend me one?
Somethings wrong with my XP, it keeps freezing and rebooting, thats why I originally did a format but now the same shit is happening again.
Windows 7 seems to work fine.
I ran a chkdsk and the HDD seems to be fine too, RAM is also ok.
Damn it what the hell is happening. I'm tired and want to go to sleep but I can't now that everything is fucked up. |
What do you use XP for? You could use XP mode in Windows 7 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 14:19 Post subject: |
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Depends on the version of Windows 7
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 17:10 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input. I'm using XP for 2 reasons, the first is I want to have two OS's in case one of them goes fubar, which happened quite often for me and I'm not really the Linux type so there is not much choice regarding that.
And b) is I noticed a few games run better on WinXP than on Win7, shorter loading times and sometimes a slight performance increase that's why I'm still using XP.
But thats not important now, I just wanna know whats going on with my XP installation and why its rebooting/bluescreening like mad and Win7 isn't. For me there are only 2 possibilities, its either the HDD thats failing (despite it being only 6 months old and checkdsk telling me everything is fine!) or I got some kind of Virus that manifested itself somewhere in the Bootsector and survived the format. But then why is it only happening on XP? Why are my Virus scanners not detecting anything? I'm using NOD32 and Trendmicro Housecall, going to try Avira later.
I'm kinda out of ideas.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 17:43 Post subject: |
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can you just modify boot.ini ??
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 19:19 Post subject: |
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Boot.ini is old and is only for pre-Vista installations. Vista and up use BCD.
@Shocktrooper
Could also be some faulty driver. When it BSODs, write down the message it gives you. Also take a loot at the event viewer.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 19:50 Post subject: |
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Back then when it BSOD'd (after 5 fade to black/reboot crashes it started to BSOD right after WinXP booted) I can remember the errorcode was 0x000008 (0x000034, 0x00000xx, 0x00000xx) (I dont remember what numbers the other xx were but it was something between 1 and 9) No dll's mentioned.
Once I got the BSOD I could never get back to WinXP by booting normally. However the Safe Mode still worked. checking the eventlogs in safe mode was the first thing I did and there were no error messages! After that I made a format and re-installed WinXP, then it crashed two more times (screen just went black, reboot, no BSOD, no error messages).
The only thing I recently changed driver-wise was installing the new 197.13 WHQL nvidia drivers 3 days ago.
I'm back on XP now and I just installed older graphics drivers, so far it didn't crash for 2 hours but that means nothing it could still crash any second. And if it was the drivers why is nobody else reporting problems, there are thousands of people using these drivers and nobody complained.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 20:38 Post subject: |
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Dual booting - I dont recommend it. Always seems to pop up issues, especially when you are using Win7 loaders. I understand you dont want to discuss reasons for XP, but really, there should be no reason to be using XP at all. I have a tough time believing there are games that run better than Win7. My recommendation is to dump the dual boot and move onto Win7.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 20:39 Post subject: |
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Okay, finally some developments as I got a new kind of error message in the eventlog.
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Event ID: 51
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Description: An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk1\D during a paging operation. |
5 of those popped up during the last 3 hours on WinXP and I guess each of those was supposed to be a crash. One thing I also did before booting up WinXP 3 hours ago was resetting my BIOS settings. I guess this must've activated some kind of failsafe on WinXP that's on by default on Win7 and thats why it didn't crash there. I hope I'm right.
Now from what I've googled there are 3 possibilities:
- Hard Drive failing
- SATA cables not plugged in correctly
- SATA controller on MoBo damaged
Please let it be the cables..
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 20:42 Post subject: |
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Is it the same hard drive as the 7 with different partitions or different hard drives?
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Mar 2010 23:14 Post subject: |
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ive had resetting of bios and i mean that by a complete turn off and battery short, fucked up my boot once as well. no real idea why it just did, everything looked fine but system would not boot to os..
Only way to be sure,, reinstall.. .. that did the job of course..
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Apr 2010 16:51 Post subject: |
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I gotta bump this again cause now I got exactly the opposite problem.
I just upgraded my 32-bit Windows 7 to a 64-bit installation and now the damn boot select screen is gone again and it boots right into Win7. However, I need to get back into WinXP now.
I tried manually adding XP entries via EasyBCD but it doesn't work, all I get when selecting XP at boot now is some invalid boot.ini error. (maybe because its nowhere to be found??!)
Help pls can't be that hard to modify the boot thingy and get my old OS back.
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Apr 2010 16:56 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Apr 2010 18:45 Post subject: |
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Ok thanks, I finally got it, I put the original post in spoilers.
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Thanks for the link, but I tried everything it said and it still doesnt work.
First I installed the EasyBCD beta 2.0 (I was still using the 1.7 version). After adding XP it offered to add ntldr, ntdetect, and boot.ini. I clicked YES, it added ntldr and ntdetect but it didn't add the BOOT.INI. I tried again several times but the BOOT.INI NEVER APPEARED.
So since this didn't work I went to the 2nd step: Automated creation of boot.ini:
"If you have a Windows XP or Windows 2000 CD lying around, you can use it to automatically re-create your boot.ini file to point to the correct partitions."
I inserted my XP SP3 CD only to notice a few mins later that THERE WAS NO RECOVERY CONSOLE!
So, new XP CD's seem to come without recovery consoles, but gladly I still got an ancient dusty XP SP0 CD with recovery console.
So after finally getting into the recovery console and typing the magic command: "bootcfg /rebuild" I get a FUCKING ERROR telling me that it can't find anything, my file system might be damaged and I shall run chkdsk. I know my system isn't damaged, so its probably some M$ fuckup and now the only choice I have left is the MANUAL CREATION of BOOT.ini.
There are detailed instructions here: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Rebuilding+Boot.ini
I tried 3 different versions of boot.ini's but none of them worked.
All I know is that my XP installation is on the 2nd hard drive, 2nd partition. Win7 is on same HDD, 1st partition.
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[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
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So rdisk should be 1 and partition should be 2 right? Well this didn't work.
I'm getting tired of all the rebooting and failing at such a simple task, if someone could help me figure out the correct numerical values to enter in boot.ini I would be very thankful.
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It was all because my XP wasn't installed in \WINDOWS but \WINXP. It installed itself there, maybe because it was that pre-cracked BIE rls of XP SP3.
That's why boot.ini never worked and wasn't created. And the correct values were: rdisk(0)partition(2)
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