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knaseren




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 00:05    Post subject:
to kill all hope of a private wow server....... IF ..and i say IF a grp gets a working wow world online with maybe 50% (can never be 100%) working contents .. the project will be stopped quickly by blizzard.

the reason Lineage 2 runs and are ok for a free mmorpg is that L2 chronicle 1 has been released for free use. so every1 can get help and put up a L2 chater 1 server and the client is free to download from L2 site.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 03:01    Post subject:
Peanut Butter Wolf wrote:
Actually there r 2 many real non-n00b, non-retarded reports of the game bein' borin'. It seems like it really is made for blizz/WC fanboys, as some1 said on this forum a few months ago... WoW's success is due to WC1/2/3 success and some good PR/ad campaign only.

Personally I prefer EQ2 over WoW no doubts and I hope Guild Wars will be good too...

p.s. owner of WoW collector's, not just a free beta user


It has alot more content then most other MMORPG's. Thats the reality of it's success.

EQ2 got boring as hell as soon as I reached the city. Still the graphics were damn pretty.
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Darkl0rd




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 03:03    Post subject:
knaseren wrote:
to kill all hope of a private wow server....... IF ..and i say IF a grp gets a working wow world online with maybe 50% (can never be 100%) working contents .. the project will be stopped quickly by blizzard.


The guys at Blizzhackers are not asking permission. They are not a mod team that works with blizzards accordance.

Sure, Blizzard will stop it... the same way they prevent people from pirating their games. Razz
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rubberduck




Posts: 94
Location: Norway
PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 16:29    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
LoL U dont really need those releases to play on emulated servers Razz

Well, playing on a cracked server removes part of the massive element as there won't be hardly as many players as on the official ones.
Another thing is that you can't be sure when the cracked server will go down, and lose your account and avatar.

The game is worth the money anyways Wink
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xAiTheHitman




Posts: 610

PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 16:58    Post subject:
Quote:

Actually there r 2 many real non-n00b, non-retarded reports of the game bein' borin'. It seems like it really is made for blizz/WC fanboys, as some1 said on this forum a few months ago... WoW's success is due to WC1/2/3 success and some good PR/ad campaign only.

Personally I prefer EQ2 over WoW no doubts and I hope Guild Wars will be good too...

p.s. owner of WoW collector's, not just a free beta user


Yea, its pretty much how it is. Just because you dont like WoW doesnt mean your not a RPG fan. They made this game to keep in mind of newbs who dont play a whole lot. For instance, if you die in the game, you dont lose any skill or experience. In other MMORPGS you lose something. Experienced RPGers usually dont like those games. Buncha things really that makes the game easy. You can get to level 60 in a week if you play enough. If you go on the boards you can see that. So if theres no penaltys for dieing, a rest system where if you dont play much you can still get points from killing monsters and you double it. So you can easily catch up to your friends who play much more than you. I mean all thats left to do once you hit 60 is perhaps PvP would make it fun, or try to solo some crazy dungeons. EQ 1 got boring real fast until they redid much of the game after Scars of Velious. As for EQ 2, dunno. I heard to stick with EQ 1 instead of EQ 2. That EQ 1 has much more than EQ 2... and all EQ2 has over EQ 1 is graphics. It would probably change with some expansions.
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Mutantius
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 17:02    Post subject:
rubberduck wrote:
Mutantius wrote:
LoL U dont really need those releases to play on emulated servers Razz

Well, playing on a cracked server removes part of the massive element as there won't be hardly as many players as on the official ones.
Another thing is that you can't be sure when the cracked server will go down, and lose your account and avatar.

The game is worth the money anyways Wink


yes I know dude though that wasnt my point...
the point was that the groups who release WOW doesnt really release anything special since u can play on the emulated servers just by installing from the retail version...


"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 18:12    Post subject:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Quote:

Actually there r 2 many real non-n00b, non-retarded reports of the game bein' borin'. It seems like it really is made for blizz/WC fanboys, as some1 said on this forum a few months ago... WoW's success is due to WC1/2/3 success and some good PR/ad campaign only.

Personally I prefer EQ2 over WoW no doubts and I hope Guild Wars will be good too...

p.s. owner of WoW collector's, not just a free beta user


Yea, its pretty much how it is. Just because you dont like WoW doesnt mean your not a RPG fan. They made this game to keep in mind of newbs who dont play a whole lot. For instance, if you die in the game, you dont lose any skill or experience. In other MMORPGS you lose something. Experienced RPGers usually dont like those games. Buncha things really that makes the game easy. You can get to level 60 in a week if you play enough. If you go on the boards you can see that. So if theres no penaltys for dieing, a rest system where if you dont play much you can still get points from killing monsters and you double it. So you can easily catch up to your friends who play much more than you. I mean all thats left to do once you hit 60 is perhaps PvP would make it fun, or try to solo some crazy dungeons. EQ 1 got boring real fast until they redid much of the game after Scars of Velious. As for EQ 2, dunno. I heard to stick with EQ 1 instead of EQ 2. That EQ 1 has much more than EQ 2... and all EQ2 has over EQ 1 is graphics. It would probably change with some expansions.


I can't begin telling you how much I hate this. In lineage 2 when you die not only do you lose EXP, but you also lose equipment. Once I died and I lost my bronze BP, which i have worked so hard for. The game ended for me right there. Why is a game better if you lose something up on failure? Man when I die I feel fucked anyways, why would losing something make the game better for me? Why? So the game is for noobs if you die and don't lose something? Please....

You can make level 60 in a week if you play 20 hours a day. If that's your thing then so be it but a normal human being, with a life, there's plenty of gameplay.

You're also overexaggerating with the rest system. You wont catch up with someone who plays on a regular basis. The game is easier than some other MMO's. But I like to enjoy my games, I don't want to feel like going to work when i start up a game. I don't, I want to enjoy It, every second of it. In L2 the only thing I did was farm to get better gear and to kill stronger beasts. There were very few quests and the world was gay and very dead.




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heiter




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Location: SWEDEN
PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 18:19    Post subject:
ppl stop bitching arround .. try yourself cracking games then we conitnue disscusing Wink

btw: rld is working on a key-gen yeahhh


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SigmaHex




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 18:47    Post subject:
heiter wrote:
ppl stop bitching arround .. try yourself cracking games then we conitnue disscusing Wink

btw: rld is working on a key-gen yeahhh


Do you have a source on that or is that just conjecture?
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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 21:29    Post subject:
heiter wrote:
ppl stop bitching arround .. try yourself cracking games then we conitnue disscusing Wink

btw: rld is working on a key-gen yeahhh



ok a keygen fine and then ?

u enter a keygen nice ok u can make a account nice ok then u still need to buy the gamecards to play each month so only saving u have is not to buy the game wow amazing
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SigmaHex




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 21:41    Post subject:
ShadowX wrote:
heiter wrote:
ppl stop bitching arround .. try yourself cracking games then we conitnue disscusing Wink

btw: rld is working on a key-gen yeahhh



ok a keygen fine and then ?

u enter a keygen nice ok u can make a account nice ok then u still need to buy the gamecards to play each month so only saving u have is not to buy the game wow amazing


If there was a keygen that you'd save ~$50USD for the original purchase of the box. To note if you have a credit card like most people you can just subscribe. The gamecards are designed for minors.
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xAiTheHitman




Posts: 610

PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 23:05    Post subject:
Well, hey thats too bad. Its a MMORPG. Your not invincible. I mean it should be hard. An MMORPG is something your not supposed to beat fast. It doesnt matter if you play 20 hours or not. You can still get to 60 in 3 weeks if you play little hours a day. Other MMORPGs it would take a month to even get to 20. So your level 60 quite fast and you dont lose anything when you die, than what? Go on raids and do PvP? I'm not putting the game down, sure its fun. I just dont think it presents a real challenge. Its one of those games thats fun for awhile but goes down the hill quickly. Hey, we got different opinions. But how the game works is completely fact. Still a possibility for harder things in upcoming expansion packs, but the games still geared towards new people for MMORPGs.
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avirox




Posts: 510

PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 00:52    Post subject:
I will admit that I'm no huge fan of RPGs, but really, look at it- there's no action what so ever, aside from clicking your mouse on the next spell to use. Albeit the "tactical" factor they may have, I really see the gameplay to be boring. Please dont tell me you play WoW for the quests either, because from what I've seenthey're god-awful. The only thing i see as a plus about WoW is that it's really full of imagination. Such a colorful and detailed world, I can see why people like it. Peace


fear the led zeppelin that was!
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Tdoggg72




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 05:24    Post subject:
if you think this is boring try everquest 2 i played to lvl 30 and was bored out of my mind and quit to much time looking for group.
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Kommando




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Location: Vinland
PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 05:32    Post subject:
ShadowX wrote:


u enter a keygen nice ok u can make a account nice ok then u still need to buy the gamecards to play each month so only saving u have is not to buy the game wow amazing


50$ is 50$...all savings is good savings
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rubberduck




Posts: 94
Location: Norway
PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 06:20    Post subject:
heiter wrote:
ppl stop bitching arround .. try yourself cracking games then we conitnue disscusing Wink

btw: rld is working on a key-gen yeahhh
Well, concidering that you have to register with Blizzard, I bet it would take about two hours before your account is banned.
There have been numerous attempts on making keygens for Battle.net games, and as far as I've seen none of them have ever worked.

Oh well, time will show I guess.
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D4rkKnight




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 07:45    Post subject:
SigmaHex wrote:
ShadowX wrote:
heiter wrote:
ppl stop bitching arround .. try yourself cracking games then we conitnue disscusing Wink

btw: rld is working on a key-gen yeahhh



ok a keygen fine and then ?

u enter a keygen nice ok u can make a account nice ok then u still need to buy the gamecards to play each month so only saving u have is not to buy the game wow amazing


If there was a keygen that you'd save ~$50USD for the original purchase of the box. To note if you have a credit card like most people you can just subscribe. The gamecards are designed for minors.


Keygens do not give unique keys that will verify with Blizzard. I've heard that there is actually a possibility to get a legit key, but the probability of it is ridiculous. Regardless, its not gonna happen, your keygen will not let you sign up, all it will do is inform blizz that your trying to register with a bogus key.

You cannot play pay-to-play MMORPG's unless you buy the game, or pray for an emulated server which is not gonna happen in this case.
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 09:10    Post subject:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Well, hey thats too bad. Its a MMORPG. Your not invincible. I mean it should be hard. An MMORPG is something your not supposed to beat fast. It doesnt matter if you play 20 hours or not. You can still get to 60 in 3 weeks if you play little hours a day. Other MMORPGs it would take a month to even get to 20. So your level 60 quite fast and you dont lose anything when you die, than what? Go on raids and do PvP? I'm not putting the game down, sure its fun. I just dont think it presents a real challenge. Its one of those games thats fun for awhile but goes down the hill quickly. Hey, we got different opinions. But how the game works is completely fact. Still a possibility for harder things in upcoming expansion packs, but the games still geared towards new people for MMORPGs.


Lol man you will not reach lvl 60 in 3 weeks playing normal hours. It took me 40 days to reach level 30 only, on normal hours.


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avirox




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 13:16    Post subject:


^ Sums it up best Very Happy


fear the led zeppelin that was!
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AnimalMother




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Location: England
PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 14:24    Post subject:
Pizda2 wrote:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Well, hey thats too bad. Its a MMORPG. Your not invincible. I mean it should be hard. An MMORPG is something your not supposed to beat fast. It doesnt matter if you play 20 hours or not. You can still get to 60 in 3 weeks if you play little hours a day. Other MMORPGs it would take a month to even get to 20. So your level 60 quite fast and you dont lose anything when you die, than what? Go on raids and do PvP? I'm not putting the game down, sure its fun. I just dont think it presents a real challenge. Its one of those games thats fun for awhile but goes down the hill quickly. Hey, we got different opinions. But how the game works is completely fact. Still a possibility for harder things in upcoming expansion packs, but the games still geared towards new people for MMORPGs.


Lol man you will not reach lvl 60 in 3 weeks playing normal hours. It took me 40 days to reach level 30 only, on normal hours.


I remember reading about the sad twat who was proud to reach lvl 60 in just over a week. I can't believe someone would be proud of that, as if they have any semblance of a life outside of their computer.

Also, as it turns out there were 2 people playing the character. One for 18 hrs a day, the other for 6.
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 14:26    Post subject:
Sad indeed man. Talk about spoiling a game.


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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 15:42    Post subject:
Why wouldnt they be proud of it? Their hardcore WC fans. If they love the game as much as they say they do, atleast from all the reviews I've read. The point is its possible. Also I'm not sure what you mean by spoiling the game. The system everyone knew for awhile now. They told ya in previews and trailers what it was going to be like. If ya watched the GameSpot video review they told ya. A spoiler would be quest spoilers. Also an MMORPG point of the game is to hunt and level up, go on raids, than later on try to solo dangerous dungeons.

For the guy talking about EQ2, ya, its boring. You didnt expect it to have anything on EQ 1, did ya? Games still pretty empty considering its not as in depth as EQ 1 is. EQ 1 is much bigger and has more expansions, including the Dragons of Norrath expansion. It never got boring because they redid the game so even high levels wanted to come back and play. Who knows, maybe WoW will work the same way if the developers choose it. But I doubt it when their whole goal was to include new players in the MMORPG field.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 15:58    Post subject:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Why wouldnt they be proud of it? Their hardcore WC fans. If they love the game as much as they say they do, atleast from all the reviews I've read. The point is its possible. Also I'm not sure what you mean by spoiling the game. The system everyone knew for awhile now. They told ya in previews and trailers what it was going to be like. If ya watched the GameSpot video review they told ya. A spoiler would be quest spoilers. Also an MMORPG point of the game is to hunt and level up, go on raids, than later on try to solo dangerous dungeons.


Pride is reserved for those things by which people judge their self-worth or stature.

If someone bases their self-worth on spending their waking life playing a computer then it's pathetic. For us normal people (i.e those who live in the real world) it's not something we would consider a basis for pride. He didn't even do it by himself ffs.

Also, he probably missed the majority of the game doing it this way.
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 16:18    Post subject:
I don't see any reason why they should be proud. This was not done by one man. As AnimalMother said, one played 18 hours the other 6 hours, so both sides are missing alot. Why would you rush through a game so fast, miss out more than half of it and simply end it by hitting the cap so fast. Playing as much as you can in a day is pretty sad, but calling yourself a WoW hardcore fan and doing this is even sadder.

No offence ment in any way. I don't think you're sad I just think the people that you mention are, not just sad but also retarded. And please don't come with me with the whole "Yes, but some people like it that way" thing, no when something is gay It's gay don't deny it.


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pumbertot.1




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 17:06    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Why wouldnt they be proud of it? Their hardcore WC fans. If they love the game as much as they say they do, atleast from all the reviews I've read. The point is its possible. Also I'm not sure what you mean by spoiling the game. The system everyone knew for awhile now. They told ya in previews and trailers what it was going to be like. If ya watched the GameSpot video review they told ya. A spoiler would be quest spoilers. Also an MMORPG point of the game is to hunt and level up, go on raids, than later on try to solo dangerous dungeons.


Pride is reserved for those things by which people judge their self-worth or stature.

If someone bases their self-worth on spending their waking life playing a computer then it's pathetic. For us normal people (i.e those who live in the real world) it's not something we would consider a basis for pride. He didn't even do it by himself ffs.

Also, he probably missed the majority of the game doing it this way.


ditto. Very Happy
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InvisibleSurfer




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 17:23    Post subject:
proud = have a dream + have a job (or studies) + have friends + have dates every now and then + play + learn a 2nd language

STUCK UP SON OF A BITCH = PLAY PLAY PLAY PLAY WC AND PRETEND YOU ARE "DA MAN" IN NFORCE FORUMS
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 18:22    Post subject:
InvisibleSurfer wrote:
proud = have a dream + have a job (or studies) + have friends + have dates every now and then + play + learn a 2nd language

STUCK UP SON OF A BITCH = PLAY PLAY PLAY PLAY WC AND PRETEND YOU ARE "DA MAN" IN NFORCE FORUMS


haha.. cant you do both Razz?
I R TEH LVL22 DRUID.. thou shall smite you all..
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xAiTheHitman




Posts: 610

PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 21:25    Post subject:
Didnt know you were talking about one guy. Think you took it out of context. They love WC and are proud of being level 60. I wouldnt go as far as to say they dont have a life just because their a high level. Not sure what the boards say now, but I do know its possible to get to 60 fast. It doesnt matter whats said. Point is the lack of challenge makes the game easy. If they camp on the game, thats their problem. So from what I understand two people played on that account. It doesnt mean others havent gotten that far yet that havent had more people playing on their account. I dont think everybody here plays WoW. I dont. I've played the beta but thats it.

Well for all the people who went through the cap that fast, they didnt exactly miss out on anything. By playin everyday all day that means they had the time to explore all the dungeons and play the raid events. They went through the game fast, yes... but they didnt miss out on anything. Whole point that was made was the game was easy.

Video games are much diff from life. I'm sure they decided to rush through this and get high level, than not be on as much. After all, whats the point after you beat it? Than you do events than do raids... and wait for an expansion to come along for more challenge. To insult someone because they finished the game and played all that time is jealousy. Other than that, all the things in WoW system was just proved it was easy. Like I said it was geared towards new people to MMORPGs. Not that everyone who plays the game is new to MMORPGs, but thats what it was geared towards. They wanted to make an MMORPG that focused on newbs. Make sure the button layouts where easy. Make sure you didnt have too much to read in order to get off and start having fun. Its a fun game for awhile and has great graphics... but I wouldnt put it on the level of other MMORPGs.
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 22:02    Post subject:
LOL........ so you're saying that when one guy plays 18 hours and then after that some other guy plays on the same account for another 6 hours and they do this everyday, they don't miss anything? Lol lay down the crack plz.


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AnimalMother




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Location: England
PostPosted: Thu, 24th Feb 2005 22:17    Post subject:
There is no way you can fit in everything the game has to offer in just over a week. Even if you do play every second you can stay awake i.e. 18 hrs.
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