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smith01




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 10:01    Post subject: New laptops suck!
I'm desperately trying to find a good laptop with a decent video card, 4 gigs of ram, slot-load optical drive, bluetooth, hdmi, between 13.3-15 inch screen and at least 5 hours of battery life.

I've found something that almost has it all:

The ASUS UL30Vt-X1, but it doesn't come with a dvd drive at all and doesn't have bluetooth. Anyone know of anything like that which has it all?

(The only laptop with all the features above is a macbook - which is useless to me - being a mac hater Smile)


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 12:08    Post subject:
About RAM, you can always add it yourself, that is among the only things that you can change in a laptop.
Also, if you want a decent video card, you will have to look at 15" minimum, as the small ones just can't handle good video cards at the size and heat dispensation they offer.

That said, I apologize, I can't recommend a specific model.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 12:09    Post subject:
Not to mention the fact that you pay double because it's a Mac.

You won't find a laptop with that kind of battery life + all of those features.

Define "decent videocard"? If you mean decent enough so you can play HD crap, I suggest you look into the MSI X-Slim series. To my knowledge, they all have Bluetooth built in. Got an X340 myself, plays everything just fine.

If you want a decent enough videocard to run games properly, then you won't find one with that kind of battery life I think.

And don't stare yourself blind on the DVD drive. Mine hasn't got one, so I bought an external drive instead. Also threw out the optical drive in my normal PC, because I rarely use it anyway, and the external one does just fine (DVD-RW drive for the record, burning with it is fine).

Not even Macbooks have a really decent videocard, although the GF9400 is better than the Intel 4500 you find in most of these weaker notebooks. I can give something like HoN a try for you if you want, see if it can run that with lower graphic settings, but I doubt it.

Why the Mac hate btw? I'm not a Mac fan myself, because I think Apple are just as bad as Microsoft, but the OS itself is fine. I just don't like the price they charge for all the extra bullshit software that comes with it, 90% of which I wouldn't even use anyway because there's better open source alternatives.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 13:08    Post subject:
laptops suck for hardcore gaming period, they get way too hot after a while which impacts the performance overall

if u have cash to burn here is a laptop that will be able to run pretty much everything u through at it at a decent framerate;

ASUS G51JX
Intel® Core™ i7 720QM (1.6GHz)
15,6 inch Breedbeeld (1920 x 1080)
6 GB DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GTS360M , 1 GB
6 Cells
Price: $1,429.00 Laughing
for that cash i can build one killer pc atm instead
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 13:37    Post subject:
Intel Core i5-430M 2.26-2.53 Ghz
(Intel Core i5-540M 2.53-3.06 Ghz +100€)
(Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6-2.8 Ghz + 200€)

1024 MB ATI Mobility Radeon® HD5650 (DDR3 VRAM !!!)

4096MB DDR3 1333MHz (2x 2048MB)

250 GB, 7200rpm
(500GB+50€)

8xDVD Burner
(Bluray +50€)
(Bluray burner +200€)

15,6" Full-HD 1920x1080

HDMI, Bluetooth, 4 x USB 2.0, 1 x eSATA USB Combo, 1 x CIR, 1 x Mic-in, 1 x Headphones, 1 x RJ45/RJ11, 1 x VGA, 1 x DC-in, 1 x Express Card, 1 x RF-in, 1 x Kensington, 56k Modem, Gigabit LAN, Intel® Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g/Draft-N

Fingerprint Reader, 6 Cell Battery, 3in1 Cardreader (SD/MMC/MS), 2.0 Megapixel Webcam
----

767,- €


....

Don't know about how long the battery will endure :/ Maybe ~3 hours if you are doing office stuff.

Oh I forgot to mention, + Anno 1404 for free Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 14:27    Post subject:
He needs to tell us the goals for this laptop first
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 20:21    Post subject:
To have it all - that's the goal.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 21:39    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
if your in the states ASUS makes best buy exclusive laptops for a good price.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B2+Duo+Processor+-+Blue/Black/9556072.p?id=1218124204092&skuId=9556072

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B2+Duo+Processor+-+Black/9556125.p?id=1218124208054&skuId=9556125

otherwise the only competition to that is the gateway FX series
+1.

This is probably one of the top of the line laptops as of now, but it's damn expensive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220704&Tpk=asus%20g73

And if money really isn't a problem, then just check this site:
http://www.falcon-nw.com/


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Feb 2010 22:14    Post subject:
smith01 wrote:
To have it all - that's the goal.


There's one combination which you won't be able to get: Gaming + good battery life. There is no laptop out there that's actually somewhat decent for gaming, AND has the kind of battery life you want. Plenty of laptops that can do 1080p playback and actually have decent CPUs with that kind of battery life, but it's the GPU that eats away on the battery.
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:18    Post subject:
Ok, I found what I'm looking for. I am now thinking of buying one of these:

ASUS UL80Vt-A1 - $823.53 on Amazon

ASUS UL50VT-RBBBK05 - $729.99 on BestBuy


The amazon one is 14inch and costs a 100 more for some reason. Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:22    Post subject:
Intel GMA 4500MHD awesome for gaming Smug
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:27    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
Intel GMA 4500MHD awesome for gaming Smug


Both laptops have the Intel crap and an NVIDIA GeForce G210M 512DDR3 Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:29    Post subject:
well at least with nvidia u will be able to play something that won't look like a shito
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:36    Post subject:
same deal at newegg (smaller one is more expensive)... maybe it costs more (?) to put all those components into a smaller chassis?

UL50VT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220633
UL80VT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220602


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:36    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
well at least with nvidia u will be able to play something that won't look like a shito


If you read my original post, I said I'm looking for "a decent video card". Trust me, I have a kick ass desktop at home, I just need something good for the road, that's all.

Anyway, my question is how come best buy sells the 15inch for 100 less than amazon. Usually amazon beats everyone. Is there a difference in quality or features I'm missing?


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:44    Post subject:
well intel is far from decent
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 19:46    Post subject:
also bestbuy specific models sometimes skimp on accessories


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smith01




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 20:05    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
well intel is far from decent


Dude are you blind? It's not intel it's nvidia! wtf...

nouseforaname wrote:
also bestbuy specific models sometimes skimp on accessories


So you think amazon is the way to go?


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 20:16    Post subject:
Mortibus is completely wrong though. The G210M is a piece of shit, barely any better than the GMA 4500HD. Both are a joke, with the difference that Intel never pretended to deliver a "mainstream" card with that chip.

By "decent" you seem to mean good enough for HD playback and such, a GMA 4500 will do just fine for that. And yes, the smaller one will probably be more expensive because it's harder to fit it and keep it cool Smile

No good MSI X-Slim deals anywhere? Too lazy to look Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 21:36    Post subject:
smith01 wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
also bestbuy specific models sometimes skimp on accessories


So you think amazon is the way to go?


here is something from some other forum...

Quote:
Couple other differences between the Best buy model and the A1,

-Rubberized palm rest like the UL30's
-Touchpad is not perforated with the small holes, it's smooth and almost difficult to tell where it starts and where the rubber rests start in low lighting.
-Nothing in the box. Generic manual and power brick don't count. No Cd's of any kind. Got a cable tie though.
-Best Buy preload crap

http://www.notebookforums.com/post3123866.html


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 22:18    Post subject:
smith01 wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
well intel is far from decent


Dude are you blind? It's not intel it's nvidia! wtf...



u edited your post smart ass
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 22:18    Post subject:
fuck me. it costs $1100 USD here in Canada :/
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5290629&CatId=17
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5648466&CatId=17


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smith01




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Mar 2010 22:24    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
smith01 wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
well intel is far from decent


Dude are you blind? It's not intel it's nvidia! wtf...



u edited your post smart ass


what?!


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2010 01:04    Post subject:
Ok, I went to bestbuy and I'm definitely going for the 14inch from Amazon. The one at bestbuy had a rubber finish (which sucks) and the 15inch size is just too big (although very slim I must say).


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