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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009 13:38    Post subject:
It just goes to show you how important passiveness is in MMA. A lot of people think this sport is all about aggression, and that aggression is what wins the fight. While it will help you to be aggressive and give in to ... for lack of a better word: anger, you lose technique and fall back on rudimentary striking.

In this fight it definitely didn't work out for Nightmare who always is extremely passionate in his style of fighting. I think he chose the wrong approach for fighting B.J. - he needed to do it Couture-style and make a solid game plan with a lot of contingencies and stick to it. Instead he chose to go all-in on heart/adrenaline and hope for the best (that's what it looked like to me, with maybe the exception to try and use kicks).

All the champions, with the exception of Brock rely on their composure and ability to be tactical. To defeat them a fighter needs to hone their aggression and do the same thing.

This by the way is why I think Mir has champion potential (again) too.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Dec 2009 17:41    Post subject:
You could see the cut forming on his head in slow-mo after that high-kick by BJ, split his head in two.

All in all BJ showed better boxing, kicking and everything else.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Dec 2009 16:13    Post subject:
Quote:
CUNG LE (6-0) VS SCOTT SMITH (17-6)
JOSH THOMSON (16-2) VS GILBERT MELENDEZ (16-2)
RONALDO "JACARE" SOUZA (10-2) VS MATT "THE LAW" LINDLAND (21-6)
MUHAMMED "KING MO" LAWAL (5-0) VS "IRON" MIKE WHITEHEAD
"RUTHLESS" ROBBIE LAWLER (16-5) VS TREVOR PRANGLEY

STRIKEFORCE - HP Pavilion in San Jose, CA. Saturday, Dec. 19


Glad to see Cung back in the cage, Smith is going to get tooled + curious what Jacare will do with Lindland


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Krest




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Dec 2009 19:19    Post subject:
Got back late from work yesterday and caught SF and WEC's last fights, and those were very good fights. Great come back by Smith, like ChinUP said he was getting tooled (those spin kicks were beautiful), but Le was noticeably very tired.

Cerrone vs Ratcliff was good, but very one sided. You could feel it was a matter of time before he would get Ratcliff. He almost submitted Ed at the end of the second, that was a deep RNC.

Overall pretty good mainevents, will try to catch the rest of the cards later.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Dec 2009 21:36    Post subject:
LOL @ Kung Lee.


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ChinUp




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Dec 2009 21:45    Post subject:
Cung looked like a tourist in there unbelievable such a great talent spent. Props to Smith for pulling out the W, he deserved the win Cung was just prating about. Jacare maneuvered his way around Lindland without catching much damage. If he keeps building his stand up game @ this pace he is going to be a real force to reckon with. I really cant stand Lindland for some reason, the only thing I respect him for is his standing up to the UFC in regards to their alleged illegal management + promotion of fighters. According to Lindland its been illegal for promoters to manage fighters since the 50's.


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Krest




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jan 2010 22:18    Post subject:
Very little hype behind todays card, but it could turn out decent.
I think Gilbert can pull out an upset, but very unlikely, still gonna root for him since that other bastard defeated CC Sad .
And it is interesting to see how Rashad will rebound after his first defeat. Silva did very well after his so he does have some of his confidence back. Hopefully Rashad wont try to turn it into a wrestling match.
And I know little about other fighters.

Edit: Shit, exactly what I was hoping would not happen, did happen. Seems like Rashad remembered he could wrestle and forgot he could strike.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2010 18:10    Post subject:
Yeah good call Laughing wtf happened in the third, Silva could have finished it but was too tired I guess for the finishing blow.

Daly can really punch, I'm hoping he fights GSP somewhere down the line.

Other matches not really interesting, UFC 110 will be something else, can't wait for that one.
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Krest




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2010 19:22    Post subject:
Overall it was pretty decent show, its just it looked more like a fight night than a ppv.
Daely can certainly punch but it wasnt like he was fighting a world class kickboxer, Hazzlet looked out of place and should have went for takedowns immediately. He was standing in front of Daley, what did he think was going to happen.
Lauzon looked tired as hell, but still, the supposedly "hands of stone" couldnt knock him out or really hurt him.
And that Thiago's dancing was just freaking weird. He hurt Rashad pretty good but decided to dance instead of finishing him.
Guess it will take a few more fights for Rashad to get his confidence back before he starts to strike again.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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ChinUp




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Feb 2010 13:49    Post subject:
Manhoef was all over Lawler, Lawler could hardly stay on his feet from all those kicks & then .. WHAM .. Did not see that coming. Link Surprised


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Feb 2010 14:14    Post subject:
That was ... unexpected at that point in the fight, lol.

Also, Nick Diaz is one mean muthafucka, I thought Zaromskis would be too strong for him, but ... wow !

And Cyborg is just too strong and quick for anyone.

When the fuck is Overeem gonna defend his belt ? Against Fedor ? Very Happy
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Krest




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 17:36    Post subject:
Today's card looks good. Though I think the main event will be a snoozer, and more like a quick cash in rather than a meaningful bout, even though there are talks of the winner getting the title shot (which im guessing they are banking on Randy winning, and doing another quick cash in).


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 19:22    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
Today's card looks good. Though I think the main event will be a snoozer, and more like a quick cash in rather than a meaningful bout, even though there are talks of the winner getting the title shot (which im guessing they are banking on Randy winning, and doing another quick cash in).
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Laughing

Both Randy & Colman need to hang up the gloves, focus on training up & comers. Sonnen worked Nate didn't expect that. They sure as sh!t didn't look like MW'ts. Mia's stand up is improving sad we wont see a Mia vs Jacare match up.


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Krest




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 21:02    Post subject:
Man Sonnen really is a good fighter. I was expecting Nate just to brush him off and go fight Silva again. But he had nothing on Sonnen expect for like 1 min at the end of the 3rd.
And it was a great fight card, lets just hope no undeserved title shots in the near future.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 00:08    Post subject:
Sonnen was amazing, he really is at the best period of his career, he deserves a title shot.

Coleman needs to retire, lmao. Randy has got some fight left in him, but no title shots to him PLEASE.

Rolles Gracie was unready for the UFC, they brought him in too early. I'm surprised they replayed that fight in the PPV.

Also, WAR SERRA !!! That should send Trigg packing for good. gtfo

Thiago's sub was excellent ! Good standup, too, I'm disappointed at Swick, he's lost his touch.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 09:13    Post subject:
Fuck you Tito Laughing any time duschebag Very Happy

Randy looked 10 years younger than his opponent.
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ChinUp




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 01:15    Post subject:
WtF kind of sub did Thiago use ? His arm wasn't even around the neck ! Was it some kind of double fist lock over the trachea similar to the sub used by Fedor on big Tim ?


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 01:18    Post subject:
ChinUp wrote:
WtF kind of sub did Thiago use ? His arm wasn't even around the neck ! Was it some kind of double fist lock over the trachea similar to the sub used by Fedor on big Tim ?

Wiki says "Submission (Brabo Choke)"

What the shit Very Happy I love bjj magic.
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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Feb 2010 04:07    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
ChinUp wrote:
WtF kind of sub did Thiago use ? His arm wasn't even around the neck ! Was it some kind of double fist lock over the trachea similar to the sub used by Fedor on big Tim ?

Wiki says "Submission (Brabo Choke)"

What the shit Very Happy I love bjj magic.


Its KINDA like an arm triangle choke, except you're not using your head to apply pressure.
Works by cutting off the artery on the sides of the neck... much like most other BJJ chokes.

And hurray for me. I start Gracie Jiu Jitsu classes next week. Woot.


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 05:27    Post subject:
Some of you guys might care that UFC.Ultimate.100.Greatest.Fights.Disc.1.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-KYR is going up on usenet ... just disc1 for now (#80-100) but I assume the rest will follow Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 12:32    Post subject:
I really, really hope that Wanderley will tear Bisping a new one tomorrow.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 12:47    Post subject:
Great card Very Happy Very Happy can't wait!

Cro Cop's opponent Rothwell is out with an injury, his replacement is some Aussi BJJ specialist, some other guy was supposed to fill in (not a bad name) bad he couldn't get a work permit on such a short notice so they had to go with an Aussie.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010 03:39    Post subject:
I got Cain by dominating decision. Should be a good card.

The Daddy is also a sure bet.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010 16:35    Post subject:
I got 8 out of 9 predictions right, and won money on Velasquez. Damn, that was dominant. Great UFC. Loved to see Bisping get knocked down at third round.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010 17:52    Post subject:
Awesome event ! I was surprised by Sotiropoulos, I didn't expect that !

Crocop was actually aggressive, Bisping got eat up, good stuff !!!
Not to mention Cain's fast hands ... great stuff, he didn't have to use his wrestling at all !

The crowd was excellent, too, everything was perfect actually, I really enjoyed it !
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010 20:05    Post subject:
I thought Bisping was better, really a great all around fighter lost because of the last 10 seconds when he got knocked down.

One of the better events for me, last fight not that good it was over too soon, Velasquez should get a tittle shot now it's about bloody time.

Would like a torrent of the preliminaries though Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Feb 2010 21:16    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
I thought Bisping was better, really a great all around fighter lost because of the last 10 seconds when he got knocked down.


I guess we were watching two different fights.

Aggression ... was he the one attacking? No.

Strikes ... while Bisping had some crisp counter-striking and at least once rocked Silva, Silva fired his guns a lot more, and landed a lot more.

Octagon control ... again, Bisping was trying to avoid Silva most of the fight, with some exceptions (his takedowns in the first round).


I really think this cemented Bisping as more of a sort of gate keeper, than a title contender. Anyone who can beat him gets to the upper tier.


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Feb 2010 22:47    Post subject:
Cheers for the sub info .. watched a few toots on it, looks like a very good mma sub, wonder why we don't see that much of it ..
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Bisping was scared sh!tless the whole fight Wand deserved the W but isn't going to be winning any belts imho.

I want to see Cain take the belt just so I can see Cain manhandle Brock. Cain has a lot more to offer, every time he fights he shows more skills. Nog needs to hang em up & become a full time trainer imho.

Mirko ate his pie like a good past it fighter should. Would have been a far more competitive fight had Rothwell showed. Props to the Auzy for carrying on in spite of that crater in his forehead. Wasn't to save face thats for sure Laughing

Glad to see Jardine go down, sadly he is too reminiscent of big Tim's style, perhaps a little more interesting to watch. One hit wonder if there ever was one. Go to Hollywood J your style is best suited for the professional faker circuit.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Feb 2010 12:34    Post subject:
Jardine took some good shots and didn't go dows, despite his usually weak chin. He actually did pretty good, but Bader is better. He just needs to improve his conditioning and his top control (Bader)

So I guess Sotiropoulos with that dominating W is now a title contender ? I like him, but I thought Joe was gonna win that !

Mirko is good when he is the aggressor. When someone holds his ground, the tables are turned. Also, Cain is too short to take Brock down, are you crazy ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Feb 2010 01:26    Post subject:
Probably I'm visualizing a flying knee KO that sends Brock out of MMa for good. Shocked

We need more Cains in the HW division & less Brock's imho. Looking forward to Mir vs Carwin. I reckon Carwin takes it so long as his cardio is up to scratch. Anybody think Hardy will threaten GSP's title ? Punk v Wigger Laughing

Cheers for the heads up on teh Daddy v Sotiropoulos fight totally missed that one. Surprised

Daddy got outclassed, Sotiropoulos looks to have the tools question is can he keep the pace. Anyone fighting Sotiropoulos will be looking to out pace him & make him gas because clearly his cardio is lacking. Great fight, best of the night so far as I saw.


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