[PS3] Geohot Hacks The PS3
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Horrordee
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 17:07    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
Horrordee wrote:
It rather was, please don't do it again.


Come on now. You can't come in and say that you have credible sources and then not expect to be asked what they are.

Horrodee, you're a fantastic moderator.


You do realise you're arguing FOR sources that prove something ISN'T real?

Think about that, and don't send me any more PMs either.

I asked a simple question, which was answered in a simple manner. If you don't like it, fo.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 17:16    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
Horrordee wrote:
It rather was, please don't do it again.


Come on now. You can't come in and say that you have credible sources and then not expect to be asked what they are.

Horrodee, you're a fantastic moderator.


A decent correspondent never gives his sources away less they become NONE sources......
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 17:39    Post subject:
Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Feb 2010 06:36    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
I'm not expecting anything to come of this. Sounds fishy.


lol @ blog comments like this:
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fredbob3 said...

thank you so much man! you rule! I am willing to test for you if you feel the need! I have my psp hacked and it is awesome. As asked before, is it on the latest firmware? I just want to be a part of it somehow so plz, contact me. fredbob3@gmail.com thank you.


hi I'm some random guy please send me your stuff so I can be cool!


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2010 12:23    Post subject:
hm... it seems some homebrew tool is out now
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PS3 SDK and tools v160.008

what you can do with it...?


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2010 17:16    Post subject:
anyone?? ^^


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2010 17:52    Post subject:
Old.. and nothing special..
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2010 18:37    Post subject:
Zzz is anything actually progressing with this then?


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2010 19:46    Post subject:
I don't think there is going to be anything significant anytime soon. Sold my PS3 and got a 360 now though so I'm not as fussed about it as I was before. Probably get a PS3 again when/if there is a fully working hack to play copied games.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 03:35    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
Zzz is anything actually progressing with this then?


No.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 06:49    Post subject:
i got it working

plugged in my 2GB usb drive with super extreme compressed rip of Uncharted 2 and it works fine

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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 07:11    Post subject:
Yeah, but not having any textures or sound really sucks...
It's just not the same with those blank polygons... Sad

But watch out, I heard Sony will change your controller settings as a copy protection when you go online, like inverted buttons an so on.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:14    Post subject:
hopefully with a bit luck they will now at least able to hack the blu ray drive. Blu ray discs are not expensive anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Feb 2010 16:01    Post subject:
http://twitter.com/geohot

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Today I validated my theories about running the isolated SPUs on the PS3 as crypto engines. The PS3 is 100% hacked. So where my homebrew at?


http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/

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Today I verified my theories about running the isolated SPUs as crypto engines. I believe that defeats the last technical argument against the PS3 being hacked.

In OtherOS, all 7 SPUs are idle. You can command an SPU(which I'll leave as an exercise to the reader) to load metldr, from that load the loader of your choice, and from that decrypt what you choose, everything from pkgs to selfs. Including those from future versions.

The PPU is higher on the control chain then the SPUs. Even if checks were to be added to, for example, verify the hypervisor before decrypting the kernel, with clever memory mappings you can hide your modified hypervisor.

Ah, but you still didn't get the Cell root key. And I/we never will. But it doesn't matter. For example, we don't have either the iPhone or PSP "root key". But I don't think anyone doubts the hackedness of those systems.

I wonder if any systems out there are actually secure?
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Feb 2010 20:55    Post subject:
seems like Hotz: made a further progress on "fully" hacking the PS3
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Today I verified my theories about running the isolated SPUs as crypto engines. I believe that defeats the last technical argument against the PS3 being hacked.

In OtherOS, all 7 SPUs are idle. You can command an SPU(which I'll leave as an exercise to the reader) to load metldr, from that load the loader of your choice, and from that decrypt what you choose, everything from pkgs to selfs. Including those from future versions.

The PPU is higher on the control chain then the SPUs. Even if checks were to be added to, for example, verify the hypervisor before decrypting the kernel, with clever memory mappings you can hide your modified hypervisor.

Ah, but you still didn't get the Cell root key. And I/we never will. But it doesn't matter. For example, we don't have either the iPhone or PSP "root key". But I don't think anyone doubts the hackedness of those systems.

I wonder if any systems out there are actually secure?

he is indeed a genius.


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 16:25    Post subject:
from ps3news.com

PS3 Hypervisor and Bootloader Dumped from RAM and More!


We are happy to report that the PS3 Hypervisor LV1 and Bootloader LV0 are dumped from the PlayStation 3's RAM after getting our SX28 Hardware a few days ago, utilizing code for glitching and mashing buttons for hours - the exploit eventually will get triggered!

We tried a few different ways to dump out the real memory - the biggest "problem" was the fact that you can't just simply use...
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 16:29    Post subject:
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i got it working

plugged in my 2GB usb drive with super extreme compressed rip of Uncharted 2 and it works fine

wicked


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 16:53    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
from ps3news.com

PS3 Hypervisor and Bootloader Dumped from RAM and More!


We are happy to report that the PS3 Hypervisor LV1 and Bootloader LV0 are dumped from the PlayStation 3's RAM after getting our SX28 Hardware a few days ago, utilizing code for glitching and mashing buttons for hours - the exploit eventually will get triggered!

We tried a few different ways to dump out the real memory - the biggest "problem" was the fact that you can't just simply use...



More bullshit from ps3news.com..:-/ Any news from that site is hard to believe.. Rolling Eyes
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 17:46    Post subject:
they used Geohotz exploit to dump that so no I don't think its bulshit.. Geohitz didn't want to share those dumps but ps3news did release some.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 17:59    Post subject:
how much do we have to pay for a dump?

cant believe people are still visiting that crap site
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 18:26    Post subject:
Thanks for making me have to go look at the site to read everything.

highstuff wrote:
We are happy to report that the PS3 Hypervisor LV1 and Bootloader LV0 are dumped from the PlayStation 3's RAM after getting our SX28 Hardware a few days ago, utilizing code for glitching and mashing buttons for hours - the exploit eventually will get triggered!

We tried a few different ways to dump out the real memory - the biggest "problem" was the fact that you can't just simply use File I/O code in a kernel module. Furthermore, you can't call the lv1_peek function from user mode either.

Luckily, resident DEV kakarotoks was up to the challenge. After some trial and error (and too many PS3 crashes!) he made a kernel module which maps the "real" PS3 memory to a device in /proc. The /proc area lets the kernel and userland interact some.

Basically, the device /proc/ps3_hv_mem is created when the kernel module is inserted. Once it is inserted, you can use dd to read the device. By doing this, the device gets passed arguments, which is passed along to lv1_peek - which in turns reads out the real memory.

Be advised, don't go beyond the PS3's upper memory limit. At around 260MB, the PS3 tends to crash - it does not like trying to read beyond RAM limits! So, for usage:

First, run the exploit, and get it triggered and working - that's the hard part!

Next, download the attached file, inside are three files, a Makefile, the ps3_hv_mem.c and a pre-compiled version. Stick these in a folder, and run make. It will then compile a kernel module for you (ps3_hv_mem.ko, or use the pre-compiled one). Then simply type: sudo insmod ps3_hv_mem.ko

Enter your password and check /proc for a ps3_hv_mem entry, or your dmesg. If it is there - let the dumping begin!

You can dump out the PS3 Hypervisor and Bootloader (and the rest of the real memory) via dd. You can use the command:

dd if=/proc/ps3_hv_mem of=PS3_Memory_Dump.bin bs=1024 count=10K

That command will dump out 10485760 bytes, or about 10MB - which nicely includes the goodies like LV0 and LV1. Finally, you can also increase the count, which will increase the amount dumped (multiply by blocksize).


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Feb 2010 20:00    Post subject:
YaY! and so the race for homebrew begins........... let's just hope something comes of it that doesn't require the use of OtherOS to function.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Feb 2010 01:04    Post subject:
Is there any sort of reputable news blog or something I can follow for ps3 hack news? I used to follow pspupdates for the psp homebrewing, but I've got no clue where to watch for the PS3.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Mar 2010 01:58    Post subject:
He's done something else:

http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/03/custom-themes.html


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2010 10:26    Post subject:
Intresting hes still trying everything, looks like he wants to prove people wrong.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2010 15:29    Post subject:
Looks like he over estimated the rest of the ps3 scene by expecting them to pick up where he left off with the initial entry hack

now all they do is slag him off and trying to ridicule his claims in a sad attempt to get him to do the rest of the work for them
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Mar 2010 19:19    Post subject:
The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) system will be released on April 1, 2010 (JST), and will disable the “Install Other OS” feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. This feature enabled users to install an operating system, but due to security concerns, Sony Computer Entertainment will remove the functionality through the 3.21 system software update.

In addition, disabling the “Other OS” feature will help ensure that PS3 owners will continue to have access to the broad range of gaming and entertainment content from SCE and its content partners on a more secure system.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/

Not sure if its a april fools joke but if it isnt JUST WOW! Sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 01:50    Post subject:
kalato wrote:
The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) system will be released on April 1, 2010 (JST), and will disable the “Install Other OS” feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. This feature enabled users to install an operating system, but due to security concerns, Sony Computer Entertainment will remove the functionality through the 3.21 system software update.

In addition, disabling the “Other OS” feature will help ensure that PS3 owners will continue to have access to the broad range of gaming and entertainment content from SCE and its content partners on a more secure system.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/

Not sure if its a april fools joke but if it isnt JUST WOW! Sad


It's true


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Mar 2010 12:32    Post subject:
nothing new if you ask me
the only thing that this otherOS blocks is
easy BD PS3 game dumping in linux on your very own PS3


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Apr 2010 21:48    Post subject:
Apparently he managed to do it, did not release the firmware publicly yet though:



geohots blog wrote:
Here is a video demoing my "custom firmware". It's not any sort of version string change; I would have added something showing off the new features of 3.21, but oh wait, there aren't any.

This can be installed without having to open up your PS3, just by restoring a custom generated PUP file, but only from 3.15 or previous. It's possible this CFW will also work on the slim to actually *enable* OtherOS; I'll know when my infectus gets here.

No release date yet, use the proxy hack to play online with 3.15

Note to the people who removed OtherOS, you are potentially turning 100000+ legit users into "hackers." There was a huge(20x) traffic spike to this blog after the announcement of 3.21. If I had ads on this site I guess I'd be thanking you.
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