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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 14:35 Post subject: |
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Between you Spiderman, INatan and Spykez you have ruined yet another topic.
From now one you are hereby known on NFO as: 'The Usual Suspects'.
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 15:26 Post subject: |
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I don't understand what the issue is here with being suspicious that this game might suck... Are we suddenly living in a world in which game publishers allow websites to post previews containing video from parts of the game that suck? Because, from what I've seen, the videos of the game do not look fun.
And what is this talk about this game supposedly being judged most innovative, etc.? The game is out, and has been reviewed by people -- and I see nothing to suggest that it's innovative or amazing. But yeah, that 29/40 Famitsu review says it's going to be funderful, right? I mean, Famitsu is well-known for being harsh on JRPGs that look like single-player MMOs *cough*FF12 40/40 review*cough*
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 15:28 Post subject: |
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looks good, I'll buy it.
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 15:33 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 16:14 Post subject: |
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Yuuichi wrote: | I don't understand what the issue is here with being suspicious that this game might suck... Are we suddenly living in a world in which game publishers allow websites to post previews containing video from parts of the game that suck? Because, from what I've seen, the videos of the game do not look fun. |
You can't always use game footage as a barometer. You can definitely infer a lot (such as the mechanics of the game), but when it comes to the all important question of gameplay itself you can never be entirely certain. Unless you sit down and actually play it first hand you'll never know whether it would have gotten its hooks into you. I've made that mistake a number of times, and I'll continue to make that mistake - as will I imagine a lot of other people in this thread - so I would say whilst first impressions count, they aren't everything.
Quote: | And what is this talk about this game supposedly being judged most innovative, etc.? The game is out, and has been reviewed by people -- and I see nothing to suggest that it's innovative or amazing. But yeah, that 29/40 Famitsu review says it's going to be funderful, right? I mean, Famitsu is well-known for being harsh on JRPGs that look like single-player MMOs *cough*FF12 40/40 review*cough* |
There is some confusion in this thread, the game a lot of these people are talking about is Demon Souls thanks to a derailment ( ). Famitsu also gave White Knight Chronicles a good rating all things considered, and they aren't the only place to have reviewed it either. You could check Eurogamer if you like, as they gave the Japanese imported version a very good 8/10. Then there is the reaction from other gamers which from what I've read has been mostly positive in a; 'hey this game is good, well worth playing' sort of response. Particularly I suppose if you enjoy this genre of games.
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twobells
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 16:36 Post subject: |
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Ispep wrote: | Yuuichi wrote: | I don't understand what the issue is here with being suspicious that this game might suck... Are we suddenly living in a world in which game publishers allow websites to post previews containing video from parts of the game that suck? Because, from what I've seen, the videos of the game do not look fun. |
You can't always use game footage as a barometer. You can definitely infer a lot (such as the mechanics of the game), but when it comes to the all important question of gameplay itself you can never be entirely certain. Unless you sit down and actually play it first hand you'll never know whether it would have gotten its hooks into you. I've made that mistake a number of times, and I'll continue to make that mistake - as will I imagine a lot of other people in this thread - so I would say whilst first impressions count, they aren't everything.
Quote: | And what is this talk about this game supposedly being judged most innovative, etc.? The game is out, and has been reviewed by people -- and I see nothing to suggest that it's innovative or amazing. But yeah, that 29/40 Famitsu review says it's going to be funderful, right? I mean, Famitsu is well-known for being harsh on JRPGs that look like single-player MMOs *cough*FF12 40/40 review*cough* |
There is some confusion in this thread, the game a lot of these people are talking about is Demon Souls thanks to a derailment ( ). Famitsu also gave White Knight Chronicles a good rating all things considered, and they aren't the only place to have reviewed it either. You could check Eurogamer if you like, as they gave the Japanese imported version a very good 8/10. Then there is the reaction from other gamers which from what I've read has been mostly positive in a; 'hey this game is good, well worth playing' sort of response. Particularly I suppose if you enjoy this genre of games. |
All good points as usual Ispep.
I am partly to blame for the derailment by highlighting the fact that Spiderman once again derided a game he hadn't played, it helped create confusion, for that I apologize.
However, people must ask themselves why certain subscribers feel a need to constantly sow dissention (not viewpoints) purely for the sake of it.
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 17:01 Post subject: |
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Well, since I see that I was confused a bit by the derailment, I'll withdraw some of my criticism. However, I maintain that the video evidence, coupled with luke-warm reviews by Famitsu and RPGfan, is reason enough to suspect that White Knight Chronicles might turn out to be a backwards step by a once-amazing developer.
It's impossible to really pass judgment on the game at this stage, but things don't particularly look good for it.
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 17:09 Post subject: |
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It got an international release and has a sequel in the works. I'd say for a game that was done and dusted it's doing and done quite well.
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 20:11 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 20:30 Post subject: |
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looks good. but wtf is it with that fucking combat log?!
i hope you can disable it in the game..
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Posted: Thu, 31st Dec 2009 20:46 Post subject: |
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acRon_ wrote: | looks good. but wtf is it with that fucking combat log?!
i hope you can disable it in the game.. |
Thankfully, you can.
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Posted: Sat, 16th Jan 2010 23:42 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun, 17th Jan 2010 01:04 Post subject: |
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and here is a link to a combat system walkthrough .
imho that's better than I expected
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Posted: Sun, 17th Jan 2010 12:26 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun, 17th Jan 2010 13:09 Post subject: |
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Battle system looks like it could be a wee bit cluttered O.o
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Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 18:32 Post subject: |
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character creation vid
online questing look
(Check out Georama insight)
ps: if anyone plans on getting this pm me to arrange some mp quests for special items/armour/weapons.
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Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 20:07 Post subject: |
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Urgh. I was marginally interested at first, but after seeing the combat video I'm definitely NOT interested any more. That was horrid.
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 01:25 Post subject: |
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I just watched that clip and... can somebody please explain the combat system to me? I don't get what's happening O.o
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 11:29 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 14:01 Post subject: |
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Spiderman wrote: | see seven posts up |
watched the combat sytem vid again. two times. And I think now I get it. Don't know why it seemed so confusing at first O.o
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Posted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:04 Post subject: |
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IGN gave it a 5.1
another great ps3 exclusive eh?
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twobells
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Posted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:55 Post subject: |
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TheGame110011001 wrote: | IGN gave it a 5.1
another great ps3 exclusive eh? |
Interesting..the average score is 8.5 from gamers who have the game and 7.5 from the press and remember that it was IGN who gave Star Ocean 4 an 8.......
The majority of hard core gamers who actually own the game gave it between 8.5 and 10.
Here is what someone wrote about the IGN review:
"In a nutshell, the review is trash. Rent this game, and develop your own opinion. Ryan Clements is an idiot. And this concludes one of my rare visits to this IGNorant site for another couple months. Good day."
I like this comment on the IGN review:
Spoiler: | I felt all the negative aspects of the review were things i cared little about which were some cosmetic such as lip syncing being off and underwhelming spell effects,and some in the gameplay such as what clements calls "a gameplay imbalance" the aspect of how the enemys range far exeeds that of your character,i can see how that would bug some people but i have played final fantasy 11 so much that it only feels second nature for that to be happening,also he seems to really not like the active time meter which again i myself am used to an atmosphere not unlike the one that the active time meter is based around so that also dosent bug me a bit either.I wouldnt go as far as calling rc's review garbage,i think he was able to convey what he didnt like about this game very intelligently,only thing is you can tell that this is a very personalized review and it shows,he dosent write the review for what he thinks the general gamer will or wont appreciate he writes it according to what he appreciates or dosent and i think its a huge mistake for people that were really wanting to play to walk away withought at the least giving this game a chance,im not saying that all will like it im just sayin i know its worth trying.
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Posted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:04 Post subject: |
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Spiderman posted this on : 30 Dec 2009 21:40 when he played the import wrote: | no you lose i win it SUCKS |
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Posted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:09 Post subject: |
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Spiderman wrote: | Spiderman posted this on : 30 Dec 2009 21:40 when he played the import wrote: | no you lose i win it SUCKS |
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Posted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:37 Post subject: |
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Posted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 18:41 Post subject: |
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Spiderman wrote: | smarts doesn't it |
The only thing that smarts is to constantly have to read the shite you come out with, when will you stop writing drivel?
Trolling from one topic to the next never having anything enlightening to say but yet more tripe.......honestly if you don't have anything constructive to say give it a rest for all our sakes.
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