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JackQ
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 Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 05:36 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 06:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 09:55 Post subject: |
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i hope they also make it possible to pud a bigger file on my hd of the ps3,i dont know what the limit is bud i cant put a file of 4gb on my disc,i tryed a year ago bud its possible its working now bud dont think so
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 10:21 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | i hope they also make it possible to pud a bigger file on my hd of the ps3,i dont know what the limit is bud i cant put a file of 4gb on my disc,i tryed a year ago bud its possible its working now bud dont think so |
I have several 8 - 12 gb files on my PS3.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 10:34 Post subject: |
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| Twice wrote: | | Quote: | | i hope they also make it possible to pud a bigger file on my hd of the ps3,i dont know what the limit is bud i cant put a file of 4gb on my disc,i tryed a year ago bud its possible its working now bud dont think so |
I have several 8 - 12 gb files on my PS3. |
huh how do you do that?split files is 2?i can not pud a file bigger than 4gb on my extern hd and then on my ps3
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 10:36 Post subject: |
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| ellen wrote: | | Twice wrote: | | Quote: | | i hope they also make it possible to pud a bigger file on my hd of the ps3,i dont know what the limit is bud i cant put a file of 4gb on my disc,i tryed a year ago bud its possible its working now bud dont think so |
I have several 8 - 12 gb files on my PS3. |
huh how do you do that?split files is 2?i can not pud a file bigger than 4gb on my extern hd and then on my ps3 |
probably the same way i do it stream/copy via home network (straight onto my 320gb ps3 hdd)
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 10:39 Post subject: |
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Yeah, copy it from my pc.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 10:58 Post subject: |
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Or how about just using an external drive that is formatted in NTFS? NTFS supports filesizes greater than 4GB, it just has to be external for the PS3 (internal is FAT32)
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 13:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 13:16 Post subject: |
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And as I told its currently a useless hack. Without encryption keys its complete useless.
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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rejer13
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 14:06 Post subject: |
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In other words he failed. And he gave up. haha
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 14:08 Post subject: |
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Well, it's only hacked 100% when it runs unsigned code.
Poking memory is fun and all, but ...
Anyway, he's very skilled, awesome job, great step forward, I believe it will be fully hacked in the coming months.
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rejer13
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 14:30 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: |
he's very skilled. |
I agree |
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 16:10 Post subject: |
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the "community" seems to be 50/50 on it. to put it in layman's terms one side says he hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done and the other side says he is on the right track and this is a big step in the right direction.
what's really funny/sad is to read the various "does this mean we can play copies now" questions. from looking at his exploit how can you even remotely get the idea that you'd be anywhere near playing a copy or running an iso loader... makes you cringe to think those people are out there reproducing.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 16:51 Post subject: |
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| killabyte wrote: | the "community" seems to be 50/50 on it. to put it in layman's terms one side says he hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done and the other side says he is on the right track and this is a big step in the right direction.
what's really funny/sad is to read the various "does this mean we can play copies now" questions. from looking at his exploit how can you even remotely get the idea that you'd be anywhere near playing a copy or running an iso loader... makes you cringe to think those people are out there reproducing. |
the reproducing part reminded me of the movie idiocracy...how the world quickly filled up with idiots...lol
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 16:54 Post subject: |
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Fuck this shit. I guess i'm still going to buy all my ps3 games. When i see a beautifull perfectly working hack than i'm going to see if it works.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 17:59 Post subject: |
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Epic Fail.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 18:14 Post subject: |
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 Spoiler: | Geohot has released his PS3 exploit to the masses… This particular exploit is for research purposes only; it won’t serve the average user any real purpose. So now it’s on you — all you hardcores out there.
A couple things you should know:
1.You need a non-Slim PS3;
2.You need OtherOS installed.
Once you’ve loaded whatever Linux distro with OtherOS, you’re all set… Download the exploit below and:
Compile and run the kernel module.
When the “PRESS THE BUTTON IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS” comes on, pulse the line circled in the picture low for ~40ns.
Try this multiple times, I rigged an FPGA button to send the pulse.
Sometimes it kernel panics, sometimes it lv1 panics, but sometimes you get the exploit!!
If the module exits, you are now exploited.
This adds two new HV calls,
u64 lv1_peek(16)(u64 address)
void lv1_poke(20)(u64 address, u64 data)
which allow any access to real memory.
The PS3 is hacked, its your job to figure out something useful to do with it.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 18:45 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | Or how about just using an external drive that is formatted in NTFS? NTFS supports filesizes greater than 4GB, it just has to be external for the PS3 (internal is FAT32) |
True but the PS3 will not pick up a drive formatted as NTFS when plugged in Externally.
At least it didn't when I ran the backup to put a bigger internal Hard Drive in mine. The backup drive had to be FAT32
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 19:45 Post subject: |
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mine too piggy. sucks cause i can't transfer huge blu-ray rips through an external drive because fat32 can't handle it which leaves me to transferring it across my network, which is wireless and shitty to top it off. it takes me about 2 - 3 hours to transfer a 6 to 8gb file. had no idea the file system on the ps3 was encrypted until i thought i'd be a wise ass and hook the hard drive from it into my pc and copy directly. learned a good bit of info from trying that.
@ihump4nfos - lol, so true man. it's unfortunate but that movie really seems to be where the world is headed. it's definitely becoming that way here in the states. doesn't seem to matter what is going on around people here as long as there is a reality show on tv and their cell phone is working, to hell with the rest.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 19:54 Post subject: |
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| todd72173 wrote: | | Epic Fail. |
what are you talking about?
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 22:20 Post subject: |
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been wondering why nobody has posted this so far:
| Spoiler: | | Quote: | So the PS3 is hacked ? Well that's nothing more than an urban legend.
Altough it's nice to capture all these HV calls and stuff from a plain (not encrypted) lv1 binary, but this will never lead to a hacked PS3.
Let's have a look. The major security architecture on the PS3 is called the "Secure Processing Vault" and is the most important thing regarding "hacking" the PS3.
There is NO WAY for the PPU or even the HV to gain access to the SPU, which is an application running inside of an isolated SPU.
Well you can kick out the isolated SPU, like geohot mentioned, but this gives you nothing, as ALL the encryption and execution of applications (HDD encryption, app encryption, decryption, executing, signature checking, root key extraction) happens inside the isolated SPU.
To run homebrew on the PS3 you would have to reassemble the whole functionality from the SPU inside a binary running on the PPU. For this you will need the root key.
The root key is stored in hardware (not even close to the things on the iPhone). The root key cannot be extracted by any software or hardware means and is essential to ALL encryption/decryption, executing and checking routines.
The only way to get the root key is inside of an isolated SPU, as it is kick-starting the hardware encryption facility. There is no other way to do that !
Let's just assume that geohot or some other guys are able to break into the local store of the isolated SPE. There they will just find some encrypted binaries.
The key for decryption is encrypted by the root key ! You won't get anywhere without the root key.
Let's assume that someone managed to do all those stuff from the isolated SPU on the PPU and creates a CFW.
There is still a secure booting environment. The first module loaded/bootet is integrity checked by the hardware crypto facility utilizing the root key. So you have also to address this booting stuff. Again, no root key, no booting.
So there's always runtime patching you might ask ? Not possible on the PS3 because the hardware crypto facility is able to check the signatures whenever it wants to.
And which part is responsible for this ? Exactly, the isolated SPU. So if you kick out the isolated SPU the system will not boot/run anymore.
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so it seems a REAL ps3 HACK is still WAY down the road..
wake me when they get their sneaky hands on the root keys so that i can go & buy a ps3 
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 22:21 Post subject: |
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| Clcancellation wrote: | | todd72173 wrote: | | Epic Fail. |
what are you talking about? |
1. it works only on non-slims
2. non slims have YLOD
3. and it only works in linux mode on a ps3 with a pulse switch and thats a LULZ
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epic fail on the hack part
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JackQ
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 23:08 Post subject: |
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is hack is on research purposes mainly,so people,don't underestimate it,it's supposed to help others to fully hacked it.
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 23:30 Post subject: |
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hmmm there is no still no hack. there is an exploit which to date does not allow to run unsigned code. based on his latest message, i also understand that we do not have to expect if from him if a hack would possible
say hello to all believers (sabin included)
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JackQ
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2010 23:31 Post subject: |
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| strangel wrote: | been wondering why nobody has posted this so far:
| Spoiler: | | Quote: | So the PS3 is hacked ? Well that's nothing more than an urban legend.
Altough it's nice to capture all these HV calls and stuff from a plain (not encrypted) lv1 binary, but this will never lead to a hacked PS3.
Let's have a look. The major security architecture on the PS3 is called the "Secure Processing Vault" and is the most important thing regarding "hacking" the PS3.
There is NO WAY for the PPU or even the HV to gain access to the SPU, which is an application running inside of an isolated SPU.
Well you can kick out the isolated SPU, like geohot mentioned, but this gives you nothing, as ALL the encryption and execution of applications (HDD encryption, app encryption, decryption, executing, signature checking, root key extraction) happens inside the isolated SPU.
To run homebrew on the PS3 you would have to reassemble the whole functionality from the SPU inside a binary running on the PPU. For this you will need the root key.
The root key is stored in hardware (not even close to the things on the iPhone). The root key cannot be extracted by any software or hardware means and is essential to ALL encryption/decryption, executing and checking routines.
The only way to get the root key is inside of an isolated SPU, as it is kick-starting the hardware encryption facility. There is no other way to do that !
Let's just assume that geohot or some other guys are able to break into the local store of the isolated SPE. There they will just find some encrypted binaries.
The key for decryption is encrypted by the root key ! You won't get anywhere without the root key.
Let's assume that someone managed to do all those stuff from the isolated SPU on the PPU and creates a CFW.
There is still a secure booting environment. The first module loaded/bootet is integrity checked by the hardware crypto facility utilizing the root key. So you have also to address this booting stuff. Again, no root key, no booting.
So there's always runtime patching you might ask ? Not possible on the PS3 because the hardware crypto facility is able to check the signatures whenever it wants to.
And which part is responsible for this ? Exactly, the isolated SPU. So if you kick out the isolated SPU the system will not boot/run anymore.
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so it seems a REAL ps3 HACK is still WAY down the road..
wake me when they get their sneaky hands on the root keys so that i can go & buy a ps3 |
Quote from 0m1kr0n that respond to that:
| Spoiler: | It is hacked, you can do anything on the cell once you get r/w on the most privileged state. He even made peek and poke for real addresses which will allow a lot.
If you're not a kernel or real mode programmer you probably don't understand.
By the way SKFU is a talentless big mouth, even the people who are close to him wonder what his skills are. Contact him and ask what he's done not just in the PS3 scene but in any scene, and notice the empty response, or the secretive type like you see 'geeks' use in chat rooms.
Literally his entire existence in the PS3 scene consists of bottom lining inconsistent information and gradually failing to do trivial software engineering on test units of[/quote] his rich friends. As far as I know he also is a nobody in any other hack or reversing scene as well. I'm sure of course he would say otherwise and give something with equal substance to his PS3 work..which is basically none.
All the pirates and consumers get to each shit now because definitive proof is readily available and it's going to take effort to refine. I would of done exactly what Geohot has and get back to life and ignore all the haters. There is better stuff to do, and he's well capable of working on it on his own time in private with other people. |
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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