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panzieman




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Jan 2010 23:29    Post subject: Designer Drugs
Are fun. Also, I like them.

Dirt cheap, legal, readily available, what's not to like?
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Jan 2010 23:55    Post subject:
you mean like interior designers who sniff their paint? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Jan 2010 23:58    Post subject:
...there is a documentary you should see
You really don't know whats in them or if it could cause problems later.
...kinda like diet coke, lol.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 00:14    Post subject:
I just love drugs .... but after ending up in a hospital with a friend both having a heart faillure after first knocking out a doctor and biting a nurse i kinda gave up on that Very Happy

I only smoke weed nowadays ... but i don't consider that as a drug.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 00:17    Post subject:
nothing but weed for me too

and yeah, it's no different then smoking tobacco.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 00:26    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
I just love drugs .... but after ending up in a hospital with a friend both having a heart faillure after first knocking out a doctor and biting a nurse i kinda gave up on that Very Happy

I only smoke weed nowadays ... but i don't consider that as a drug.


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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 00:44    Post subject:
@panzieman

Rofl... that was the main story... Wink ... but i try to explain a bit more.

I bought them in a smart shop (shop where you can buy mushrooms and other crap) ... after police investigation it seemed the shop was making their own drugs and got closed after this case Sad

It was a mixture of different kind of drugs but the only ingredient they could still identify in my body was LSD. Me and my friend where picked up with an ambulance about 5hours after we took them. Now i also know that a ride with an ambulance what took about 7 minutes costs 1600 € FFS Sad

We had to stay in the hospital for 3 days and i don't remember shit of it ... after i came out i couldnt even climb a stairs for 3 weeks before getting totally exhausted. It also costed me my current education cause i was fucked up for weeks. For example i sufffered for about a year when i allmost fell asleep i forgot to breath and shit... LSD can be crap when you use it wrong.

The heart faillures i think came from a bad trip combined with being in a hospital getting all kind of needles poked in your body. My heartbeat went up and down from 34 beats p/m to around 240 beats p/m ..

Ah well... we survived and got a free life lesson Wink
But i'm pretty sure it costed me a couple of years of my life.


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 00:47    Post subject: Re: Designer Drugs
panzieman wrote:
Are fun. Also, I like them.

Dirt cheap, legal, readily available, what's not to like?


Ha, if it's dirt cheap, then I'm assuming it's a substituted cathinone or ethylone analog, both of which are associated with abnormal amyloid formation. I really wouldn't use either more then once every few months as the neurodegenerative effects are cumulative.

Ironically enough cocaine is actually less neurotoxic then either, although the same can't be said for it's effects on the heart, especially when combined with alcohol.


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panzieman




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 03:24    Post subject: Re: Designer Drugs
Lathieza wrote:
@panzieman

Rofl... that was the main story... Wink ... but i try to explain a bit more.

I bought them in a smart shop (shop where you can buy mushrooms and other crap) ... after police investigation it seemed the shop was making their own drugs and got closed after this case Sad

It was a mixture of different kind of drugs but the only ingredient they could still identify in my body was LSD. Me and my friend where picked up with an ambulance about 5hours after we took them. Now i also know that a ride with an ambulance what took about 7 minutes costs 1600 € FFS Sad

We had to stay in the hospital for 3 days and i don't remember shit of it ... after i came out i couldnt even climb a stairs for 3 weeks before getting totally exhausted. It also costed me my current education cause i was fucked up for weeks. For example i sufffered for about a year when i allmost fell asleep i forgot to breath and shit... LSD can be crap when you use it wrong.

The heart faillures i think came from a bad trip combined with being in a hospital getting all kind of needles poked in your body. My heartbeat went up and down from 34 beats p/m to around 240 beats p/m ..

Ah well... we survived and got a free life lesson Wink
But i'm pretty sure it costed me a couple of years of my life.



I'm assuming they were sold to you as "ecstasy" or something of the like? But from the sound of it, it wasn't the LSD that did the damage. LSD has been studied to hell and it's still one of the safest (from a purely toxicological point of view) drugs available.


AnimalMother wrote:
panzieman wrote:
Are fun. Also, I like them.

Dirt cheap, legal, readily available, what's not to like?


Ha, if it's dirt cheap, then I'm assuming it's a substituted cathinone or ethylone analog, both of which are associated with abnormal amyloid formation. I really wouldn't use either more then once every few months as the neurodegenerative effects are cumulative.

Ironically enough cocaine is actually less neurotoxic then either, although the same can't be said for it's effects on the heart, especially when combined with alcohol.


I've tried most of the popular cathinone/ethylone analogs but I'm not really a huge stimulant/empathogen user and on the rare occasions that I'm going to use one of these drugs I'm going to get MDMA because it's cheaper quite honestly, still the best.

I'm mostly into synthetic phenethylamines and tryptamines though. I get my stuff from legit chemical suppliers and measure it with a mg scale. Most of the negative press coming from designer drugs come from things like Lathieza said, getting mystery substances, and people eyeballing huge doses.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 03:58    Post subject:


Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 04:26    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:


Laughing





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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 16:01    Post subject:
Could you perhaps recommend some good tryptamines?
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helvete




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 17:02    Post subject:
I like alpha-Methyltryptamine. Sadly it's illegal in sweden since a few years back. Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 17:10    Post subject:
AMT, 5-MEO, 5-MEO DIPT

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helvete wrote:
I like alpha-Methyltryptamine. Sadly it's illegal in sweden since a few years back. Sad


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 18:05    Post subject:
Jesus..never thought so many drug idiots would gather at one spot Wink

Nah, just kidding...go on - blow your heads up using drugs...personally I hate those kind of things and think they are a menace to society.


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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 18:14    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
Jesus..never thought so many drug idiots would gather at one spot Wink

Nah, just kidding...go on - blow your heads up using drugs...personally I hate those kind of things and think they are a menace to society.


Better use drugs then alcohol Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 19:41    Post subject:
Anthirs = Ignorant

stay out of this thread
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 19:59    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
Anthirs wrote:
Jesus..never thought so many drug idiots would gather at one spot Wink

Nah, just kidding...go on - blow your heads up using drugs...personally I hate those kind of things and think they are a menace to society.


Better use drugs then alcohol Wink


Both are bad when abused, and I would say alcohol is safer than most other drugs.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 20:18    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
Anthirs wrote:
Jesus..never thought so many drug idiots would gather at one spot Wink

Nah, just kidding...go on - blow your heads up using drugs...personally I hate those kind of things and think they are a menace to society.


Better use drugs then alcohol Wink


I use none of it.

JahLux wrote:
Anthirs = Ignorant

stay out of this thread


Why?


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helvete




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 20:20    Post subject:
because you're not contributing?


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 20:28    Post subject:
helvete wrote:
because you're not contributing?


So fucking what? Im not judging you, take me as the X factor in this thread rather than your enemy! Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 20:40    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:


JahLux wrote:
Anthirs = Ignorant

stay out of this thread


Why?


Because you obviously have very limited experience or knowledge of drugs of any kind. Therefore you're just another bigoted teetotal belligerent who generalises all recreational substances as the domain of addicts and delinquents.

Personally there are no recreational substances that I do on a regular basis, apart from moderate alcohol consumption maybe once a week. I love to experiment with all things though, and drugs are included in that philosophy. If you're limiting your experience of life to a wholly sober mind then it is you that is missing out. No matter how healthy you think you are, you'll probably live for the same length of time as most irregular drug users, if that.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 20:44    Post subject:
Actually, ive got tons of friends who have used/still use them...so im not THAT inexperienced Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 20:50    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
Actually, ive got tons of friends who have used/still use them...so im not THAT inexperienced Wink


Wait so you "hate" drugs and think that they are "a menace to society" yet you have tons of friends who use them. That is unusual considering that someone's attitude towards drugs tends to be a defining factor in their personality.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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panzieman




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 21:13    Post subject:
Atropa wrote:
Could you perhaps recommend some good tryptamines?



I would highly recommend 4-ho-dipt, 4-aco-dmt, and n n-dmt as my favorite tryptamines. And fortunately 2/3 are legal in canada!

AnimalMother wrote:
Anthirs wrote:


JahLux wrote:
Anthirs = Ignorant

stay out of this thread


Why?


Because you obviously have very limited experience or knowledge of drugs of any kind. Therefore you're just another bigoted teetotal belligerent who generalises all recreational substances as the domain of addicts and delinquents.

Personally there are no recreational substances that I do on a regular basis, apart from moderate alcohol consumption maybe once a week. I love to experiment with all things though, and drugs are included in that philosophy. If you're limiting your experience of life to a wholly sober mind then it is you that is missing out. No matter how healthy you think you are, you'll probably live for the same length of time as most irregular drug users, if that.



I don't know who you are but you write incredibly well. What do you do for a living? I wish that one day I could respond half as effectively as that to someone with a decidedly negative opinion on occasional drug use.
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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 21:17    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Anthirs wrote:


JahLux wrote:
Anthirs = Ignorant

stay out of this thread


Why?


Because you obviously have very limited experience or knowledge of drugs of any kind. Therefore you're just another bigoted teetotal belligerent who generalises all recreational substances as the domain of addicts and delinquents.

Personally there are no recreational substances that I do on a regular basis, apart from moderate alcohol consumption maybe once a week. I love to experiment with all things though, and drugs are included in that philosophy. If you're limiting your experience of life to a wholly sober mind then it is you that is missing out. No matter how healthy you think you are, you'll probably live for the same length of time as most irregular drug users, if that.


So ... how long before your gonna take it in the butt ?? Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 21:20    Post subject:
Ok, next step - trade some online retailers? Smile

I'm looking at putting an order out for some 4-methylmethcathinone AKA mephedrone AKA Meow Meow.

Seems to be one of the few legal ones left and there are some very promising reports on Erowid. I've found a number of places, but they sell it at prices like it's being sold on the street. Don't mind buying 15-50 grams but don't want to spend more then 10 per gram.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 21:21    Post subject:
The only drug I take is cocaine, at least 3 times a week which is about 9 grams.


I like bum.
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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Jan 2010 21:24    Post subject:
kalato wrote:
The only drug I take is cocaine, at least 3 times a week which is about 9 grams.


cocaine sucks donkey balls.... not worth the money in my opinion Sad
Nothing beats mdma Very Happy
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