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 Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2010 23:54 Post subject: |
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Sorry but Bioware does have room to talk.
They're doing series now where what you do in one game impacts the next even before you've played a single mission. They may keep the fundamentals of their games the same, (I don't think he was saying JRPGs need a complete facelift) but that's still pretty revolutionary.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2010 01:57 Post subject: |
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| DraySpittle wrote: | Sorry but Bioware does have room to talk.
They're doing series now where what you do in one game impacts the next even before you've played a single mission. They may keep the fundamentals of their games the same, (I don't think he was saying JRPGs need a complete facelift) but that's still pretty revolutionary. |
orly then what about Quest of Glory , Wizardy and Ishar... made the story continuation evolution WAY before bioware knew how to do it
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2010 02:09 Post subject: |
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Yes but comparing a game like Ishar and Quest of Glory to a game like Mass Effect is like comparing a supercomputer to a basic calculator.
Hell, you might as well argue that "choose your own adventure" novels have Bioware beat.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2010 02:33 Post subject: |
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| DraySpittle wrote: | Yes but comparing a game like Ishar and Quest of Glory to a game like Mass Effect is like comparing a supercomputer to a basic calculator.
Hell, you might as well argue that "choose your own adventure" novels have Bioware beat. |
But he's not comparing them. He's saying the feature isn't revolutionary it's already in some games.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2010 11:18 Post subject: |
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DraySpittle why are not complaining here about graphics, story presentation nor comparing them . Like it was said story continuation isn't revolutionary and it was allready implemented in the best 3 RPGs ever made... but Bioware thinks different they say they made IT and blames Jrpgs for not having this feature , thats why they say Jrpg lack evolution ..... LULZ
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2010 22:51 Post subject: |
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Perhaps both of us have misunderstood one another. I never said that what Bioware is doing is unprecedented.. But Mass Effect 2 is the first modern, major title that incorporates what you did in the previous game and changes your experience based on those decisions.
Even if you want to argue semantics with me the fact still stands that for the past 10 years Bioware didn't incorporate your choices from one game to another (take Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 for example) and now that's changing. So they're evolving whether what they're doing has precedent or not.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2010 23:35 Post subject: |
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| DraySpittle wrote: | Perhaps both of us have misunderstood one another. I never said that what Bioware is doing is unprecedented.. But Mass Effect 2 is the first modern, major title that incorporates what you did in the previous game and changes your experience based on those decisions.
Even if you want to argue semantics with me the fact still stands that for the past 10 years Bioware didn't incorporate your choices from one game to another (take Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 for example) and now that's changing. So they're evolving whether what they're doing has precedent or not. |
Even though that's true, this thing is only a very recent trend from them. Up to this point, their games didn't really evolve much. And if all that'd have made them successful was evolution, I don't think they'd be around to incorporate these kind of changes into their newer games. Hence the hypocrisy.
As I said I still love their games, but I sure as hell didn't hold them in high esteem because of their revolutioary game designs, but instead, the "same old, but reliable and entertaining" kind of storytelling and game system they provided.
Another, somewhat unrelated point: with all this "streamlining" (aka. dumbing down), can one really consider Mass Effect 2 an "evolutionary step" so to speak? |
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2010 23:47 Post subject: |
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| DrHobo wrote: | | Another, somewhat unrelated point: with all this "streamlining" (aka. dumbing down), can one really consider Mass Effect 2 an "evolutionary step" so to speak? |
For shooters you could.. RPGs not really.
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