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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jan 2005 18:27    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:

All the other x-men could hand him his ass in a doggy bag.


He doesn't have much power but he's the only guy who can beat wolverine, by grabbing his claws and charging them Razz twas in ultimate x-men.

But yeah, that's pretty much it, his attitude is what made him cool hehe.

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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2005 17:33    Post subject:
Trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jan 2005 17:38    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
Trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/


errr

Cheez-It wrote:
Can't tell if it's going to be crap or good...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/

certainly looks interesting Cool



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song is counting bodies like sheep by a perfect circle....
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 11:33    Post subject:
I want Jessica Albas ass right now!


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 11:34    Post subject:
You guys are actually debating whether fictional character A is going to beat fictional character B? ... Ah, well... if people can believe in something as idiotic as religion, they sure can debate fictitious characters Wink

Jessica Alba will be the cro-magnon-magnet for this movie, no doubt.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 12:09    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
You guys are actually debating whether fictional character A is going to beat fictional character B? ... Ah, well... if people can believe in something as idiotic as religion, they sure can debate fictitious characters Wink

Jessica Alba will be the cro-magnon-magnet for this movie, no doubt.


We don't believe in it, but comics and their characters are a major part of western culture.

Thats like saying why bother to discuss most films, seeing as most films are fictional.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 17:46    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:

We don't believe in it, but comics and their characters are a major part of western culture.

Thats like saying why bother to discuss most films, seeing as most films are fictional.


No it is isn't.

Discussing movies, and saying for instance "Movie A is better than movie B based on these premises" has strength and validity since they're based on reality - Movie A exists in real life, and so does Movie B. When you're arguing movies you're arguing something that has to do with real things, such as acting, directing, lighting, script, synopsis, etc. - comparing these at least has validity. If, for instance Movie A has an interesting synopsis, a strong and well-formulated script (that is dramaturgically strong), the lighting is well done, and the actors portray their roles convincingly you would be able to claim that Movie A is better than Movie B if Movie B is definitely worse on all accounts.

Discussing whether for instance Abraham Van Helsing (from Coppola's renown version of Dracula) would stand a chance in a fist fight with Bela Lugosi's character in one of the renditions of that old black and white movie is, on a rather comically ridiculous level perhaps fun - but it's about as solid as comparing invisible friends, as the characters traits aren't based on common ground. If we would expand this and take for granted that all movie-makers used a formula when they made their individual movies, where - for instance, each character had a character sheet (like AD&D for instance), then, in a sense - yes, you could probably compare the characters "realistically", but it's all fictitious, fake, not real, and rather kiddie-like.

I used to wonder if He-Man could beat Skeletor when I was little.

Since then, I lost my sense of seeing the validity in comparing fake imaginary characters. I don't know, maybe it's because there is none.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 18:12    Post subject:
Brodie: Lois could never have Superman's baby. Do you think her fallopian tubes could handle the sperm? I guarantee you he blows a load like a shotgun right through her back. What about her womb? Do you think it's strong enough to carry her child?

T.S.: Sure, why not?

Brodie: He's an alien, for Christ sake. His Kyrptonian biological makeup is enhanced by earth's yellow sun. If Lois gets a tan the kid could kick right through her stomach. Only someone like Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterus to carry his kid. The only way he could bang regular chicks is with a kryptonite condom. That would kill him!


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 19:37    Post subject:
There are mutiple aspects of comics that can be compared, apart from characters. Thats not what I was referring to though. Comparisons between the characters is just one aspect of that type of discussion.

Of course there can be no resolution when comparing the fighting prowess of characters from different fictitious universes but since when has debate been about the resolution. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 20:02    Post subject:
Why can't you argue about who would win in a fight? You just have to think about their strengths and weaknesses, nothing illogical about it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2005 15:51    Post subject:
Just found a download for this movie, anybody else believe it is out yet? think its a dud but cant let that stop me from getting it! will let you know Confused
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2005 16:19    Post subject:
might be the old one, that never got relaesed


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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Jul 2005 17:24    Post subject: Re: Fantastic 4...
Cheez-It wrote:
Can't tell if it's going to be crap or good...


The verdict is in ... IT'S SHIT!!!! Let's see if the idiots pay to see this crap this weekend Very Happy

RATING: ROTTEN READING: 21%
Reviews counted: 62 Fresh: 13 Rotten: 49
Average Rating: 4.3/10
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fantastic_four/

CONSENSUS
Fantastic Four is a goofy, mediocre entry in the
superhero genre.

"So bad it takes points away from BATMAN BEGINS."

"An overinflated B-movie with no grace, no subtext, no
wit, and featuring beefcake/cheesecake actors who look
like they've been plucked from the soaps."

"It's hard to tell if the other actors are awful or if
it's the script."

"Fantastic Flop"

"Oh yes, it’s Catwoman bad."


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