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Yes, I think Steam is crap, but hey, if i was Valve, i´d love it.
But as long as i get my games for free, I don´t bitch and moan about it all the time!
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 22:38 Post subject: |
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| Cheez-It wrote: | | Kommando wrote: |
[b]Replacement is FREE for the first 90 days of product ownership. After 90 days there is a $10.00 handling fee per program for replacement. |
So it's free. How hard is that? Seems quite simple to me.
People were saying it was 10$. Unless they buy the game, wait 90 days, THEN realize the key's being used.
But in that case they're retarded. |
The duplicate key issue is for old version of HL1 and CS...some HL2 got this too but Sierra made this a few years ago so technicly the 90 days rule dont apply.
Half-life 1 was released 10/31/1998 and CS retail 11/08/2000 so from then till mid 2002 Sierra produce alot of those games since they didnt thought it will be a total hit so they had to duplicate keys cause they already used all the key possibilities....so thousands of people got screwed with that when STEAM was released.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 23:28 Post subject: |
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| Kommando wrote: | | Cheez-It wrote: | | Kommando wrote: |
[b]Replacement is FREE for the first 90 days of product ownership. After 90 days there is a $10.00 handling fee per program for replacement. |
So it's free. How hard is that? Seems quite simple to me.
People were saying it was 10$. Unless they buy the game, wait 90 days, THEN realize the key's being used.
But in that case they're retarded. |
The duplicate key issue is for old version of HL1 and CS...some HL2 got this too but Sierra made this a few years ago so technicly the 90 days rule dont apply.
Half-life 1 was released 10/31/1998 and CS retail 11/08/2000 so from then till mid 2002 Sierra produce alot of those games since they didnt thought it will be a total hit so they had to duplicate keys cause they already used all the key possibilities....so thousands of people got screwed with that when STEAM was released. |
You're just talking bollocks now. Used up all the key possibilities? Are you joking? There are billions of combinations.
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Cheez-It
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 23:33 Post subject: |
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Half life CD keys were in the form ####-######-####
Your telling me they fucking made more than 100,000,000,000,000 copies? that's bs man.
wow.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 01:42 Post subject: |
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it's possible to generate 2 identical keys dumb ass.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 01:46 Post subject: |
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| posiedon wrote: | | it's possible to generate 2 identical keys dumb ass. |
Wow it must really take an effort to be that stupid.
You think they just randomly create keys and slap then on the manuals? Of course they have every key they've ever generated logged, how else do you think they check it when you try to play online dipshit.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 02:17 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: |
Of course they have every key they've ever generated logged, how else do you think they check it when you try to play online dipshit. |
They don't.
A valid key has to follow certain creteria.
If you type any random ####-######-#### combination you probably won't end up with a valid key. The programm will reject it (and it doesn't even need to connect to the internet to do that).
The key has to match the creteria (which are of course different for each game).
These creteria are used to check if your key is valid. It does not check any database. It only checks if the key matches the creteria and if no one else is using the same key at the same time.
Since not every ####-######-#### is a valid key, the number possible keys is much much much smaller than 100,000,000,000,000 (the possible combinations in ####-######-#### format).
For HL1 all possible valid keys have been used up. This is a fact and has been confirmed by sierra.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 02:54 Post subject: |
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| Darkl0rd wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: |
Of course they have every key they've ever generated logged, how else do you think they check it when you try to play online dipshit. |
They don't.
A valid key has to follow certain creteria.
If you type any random ####-######-#### combination you probably won't end up with a valid key. The programm will reject it (and it doesn't even need to connect to the internet to do that).
The key has to match the creteria (which are of course different for each game).
These creteria are used to check if your key is valid. It does not check any database. It only checks if the key matches the creteria and if no one else is using the same key at the same time.
Since not every ####-######-#### is a valid key, the number possible keys is much much much smaller than 100,000,000,000,000 (the possible combinations in ####-######-#### format).
For HL1 all possible valid keys have been used up. This is a fact and has been confirmed by sierra. |
How can that be true when you can use a generator to create a cd-key that is valid offline, but not when you play online?
If it was as simple as a program checking if it follows a certain criteria then it would work online, as long as no-one else if using that exact same key at the same time (which is unlikely).
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Cheez-It
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 06:33 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: |
How can that be true when you can use a generator to create a cd-key that is valid offline, but not when you play online?
If it was as simple as a program checking if it follows a certain criteria then it would work online, as long as no-one else if using that exact same key at the same time (which is unlikely). |
Exactly what I was about to say... This might be how it works with offline programs or things like that, if it worked like this for CS then you could come up with a keygen, which hasn't happened... although i supposed it would be harder to come up with an algorithm for the key if it cant be checked offline... oh well i dunno
I still don't see the problem if 1.) a new one can be exchanged for free 90 days after purchase and 2.) this isn't a widespread occurence, it is very rare.
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razor1394
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All other threads that corresponds to the contents of these ones will be closed except those in the pc game technical forum
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Use the main hl2 thread.
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and since they still sell it in store you are under the 90 days free exchange policy.
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