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Mantis2K9
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There's some proper idiots on here, how many times do people keep having to say its isnt about being banned but the other shit that isnt part of the EULA that Microsoft took upon themselves to do, then you get one of the morons like, Shadow X, RMFX or one of the other idiots crawl outta the woodwork and repeat the same old crap.
My mate was banned last year, he only lost the ability to sign onto Xbox live.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 08:58 Post subject: |
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| Mantis2K9 wrote: | There's some proper idiots on here, how many times do people keep having to say its isnt about being banned but the other shit that isnt part of the EULA that Microsoft took upon themselves to do, then you get one of the morons like, Shadow X, RMFX or one of the other idiots crawl outta the woodwork and repeat the same old crap.
My mate was banned last year, he only lost the ability to sign onto Xbox live. |
You're the idiot. Who cares what happened to your mate last or any other year? And who says that MS should stop at banning people from LIVE. Stop trying to play the victim here. You got what you deserved.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 09:07 Post subject: |
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| Kommando wrote: | | Mantis2K9 wrote: |
You really are a gobby little shit bag aren't you. |
He is, he refuse to understand the simple facts and keep arguing with poeple |
Oh really? Because unlike you and this Mantis fool I refuse to play the victim? It's funny that you say that I fail to understand simple facts and then you go on to say this..
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Looks like you didnt read this thread at all. We dont bash MS cause we got banned, we know it will happen one day. We bash MS for fuckin up the HDD with a ban such as
* Disables HDD install/load functionality
* Disables MP3 listing
* Corrupts saves and profile
* Disables Movie Playback
* Reverts ALL YOUR BOUGHT Games on XBLA to DEMO
* Disables Backward compatibility to play XBox1 games
* Disables DVD movie playback (after 20min of constant play it freezes the screen and goes back to th dash) |
This is funny. My banned 360 doesn't corrupt my saves and profile. I can still use my saves and profile fine on my banned machine they just won't work on an unbanned 360. My 2 bought LIVE arcade games still work as full versions, and the machine still plays DVD's perfectly well. Games that were installed on the drive previous to the console being revoked still work FROM THE HDD!
So who's failing to understand the simple facts? Stop posting this made up list. It's not helping you to win any arguements. It's just making you look silly and ill informed.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 09:07 Post subject: |
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I think I know what is happening here. All the cowards that were too scared of modding their console for various reasons, and had to pay $$$ for every game, are now on a self-congratulating rage. 
| RMFX wrote: | | And who says that MS should stop at banning people from LIVE. |
If this lawsuit goes through, there is a big chance a judge will. 
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Mantis2K9
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 09:08 Post subject: |
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| RMFX wrote: | | Mantis2K9 wrote: | There's some proper idiots on here, how many times do people keep having to say its isnt about being banned but the other shit that isnt part of the EULA that Microsoft took upon themselves to do, then you get one of the morons like, Shadow X, RMFX or one of the other idiots crawl outta the woodwork and repeat the same old crap.
My mate was banned last year, he only lost the ability to sign onto Xbox live. |
You're the idiot. Who cares what happened to your mate last or any other year? And who says that MS should stop at banning people from LIVE. Stop trying to play the victim here. You got what you deserved.
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Who is playing the victim here you silly little turd. My box was modded I know eventually I would be banned, simple. Didn't expect all the other crap that happened with it, the reason I mentioned my mate is that he got banned last year with none of the side effect, so its relevant.
Look, just because your having trouble understanding puberty and the changed going on in your body theres no need to come here and take it out on us.
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Mantis2K9
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 10:48 Post subject: |
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| Mantis2K9 wrote: | There's some proper idiots on here, how many times do people keep having to say its isnt about being banned but the other shit that isnt part of the EULA that Microsoft took upon themselves to do, then you get one of the morons like, Shadow X, RMFX or one of the other idiots crawl outta the woodwork and repeat the same old crap.
My mate was banned last year, he only lost the ability to sign onto Xbox live. |
the problem here is that never games have system updates that add this shit , those are mandatory or else you get the scratched disk surface error because the xbox protection doesn't have the software to read/classify multi wave disk asks safe
yeah you can fuck up the waves with some downgrade programs , some games will work ,some not anymore like Wave 5 games that need new updates that are on the disk
so now we stand in the same position that we stand on WII , when system updates can brick your console , but on xbox a bricked console will run games but it will only run games from dvd other things will be disabled
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 11:08 Post subject: |
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This thread is out of control....
By the way, someone mentioned that MS banned memory cards that isn't their own? Is that true? Because my memory card stopped working when the consol got banned...but I thought it just died, the cheaper ones does not seem to have a long life.
All banning aside, I do think it's a ass move by MS to stop devices like that...I mean you pay quite the overprice for their own memorycards
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 13:47 Post subject: |
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My last post here about this subject , you all know my opinion , Yes I as not only talking about the bans but also about the disabling of you console , I still stick to the fact that you all knew this before you modded it and thats the price you pay for doing so.
I wish you all goodluck with the lawsuit against MS , I do hope you get you money back and with that I mean say you paid them for 1 year in november I do hope you get 11 months back.
Towards the mods I would say , maybe best to close this topic cause some people cant react normal on a discussion here.
@ Shadow_D
Yes third party memmory cards wont work anymore.
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Mantis2K9
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 13:50 Post subject: |
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| ShadowX wrote: | My last post here about this subject , you all know my opinion , Yes I as not only talking about the bans but also about the disabling of you console , I still stick to the fact that you all knew this before you modded it and thats the price you pay for doing so.
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No, like previous bans people thought that only the online function would apply, this is why its now out of order and not before.
Get it now?.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 17:58 Post subject: |
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No I dont get it noir do I need to get it , you cant argue normaly on this topic so for that reason I dont even want to understand you , you offend people , call them names and yet you claim to be 35 wich I find very hard to believe.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 23:03 Post subject: |
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| Kommando wrote: | | bringiton wrote: | | I don't know why you think that ShadowX is trolling, but I think he's completely right by saying that people are stupid for bashing MS when they get banned. It's you own fault if you go online with a modded console, nuff said. |
Looks like you didnt read this thread at all. We dont bash MS cause we got banned, we know it will happen one day. We bash MS for fuckin up the HDD with a ban such as
* Disables HDD install/load functionality
* Disables MP3 listing
* Corrupts saves and profile
* Disables Movie Playback
* Reverts ALL YOUR BOUGHT Games on XBLA to DEMO
* Disables Backward compatibility to play XBox1 games
* Disables DVD movie playback (after 20min of constant play it freezes the screen and goes back to th dash) |
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1101837&highlight=#1101837
This is the post that keeps on being repeated , and Its one of the most pathetic excuses for an argument I've ever seen with the square root of fuck all fact in it .
Has anyone been banned for the 12v fan change , No
Has anyone been banned for changing cooling method , ie water cooled ,No
Has anyone been banned for a faulty power brick , No
Has anyone been banned for a keyboard / mouse combo such as xfire ,No
Has anyone been banned for Playing demo's or services from another region ,No
Has anyone been banned for playing demo's off DVD-R , No
Has anyone been banned for Hdd spoofing , No
Has anyone been banned for a pot tweak , No
Has anyone been banned for bad key on drive ,Nothing conclusive This is the only thing you have said that would be logged , yet widely agreed that its too unreliable a method as other discrepancies could account for the error
Small pattern emerging
burns a fuse on the mainboard with a SOFTWARE UPDATE to disable HomeBrew Linux Support You really think it's unjust that they update security flaws
Disables HDD functionality Each time you boot a game you need to compare it against the small .con file created at initial install ( containing data such as hdd serial , m-t's & con id , ohh wait  )
Disables MP3 listing I'm confused , your saying mp3's don't work now or playlists , But they do ?
Corrupts saves and profile Still works on the banned console , Only the profile & saves created or modified after ban will have their id nulled
Disables Movie Playback Not If you still have the codec . Umpteen reports than WMC extender ,streaming with tversity and such still works
Reverts ALL YOUR BOUGHT Games on XBLA to DEMOS Again If bought on the banned xbox with that profile, It will work. Same with GOD and DLC. This would probably be a MAJOR talking point but it isn't . you know why . Because it still works for 100% of people who retain the Original license ( Indie always need xbla authentication it seems though )
Disables Backward compatibility to play XBox1 games Not seen any reports , your not exactly trust worthy with the above claims are you so who knows
Disables DVD movie playback Again a fact you have pulled from your arse , Not seen another report like this anywhere
You agreed to the terms of service , they revoked your right to sign files and live access . If you are upset about it then maybe , just maybe you shouldn't have flashed your drive or did a self imposed ban like hundreds of others.
| sabin1981 wrote: | but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.
Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin |
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Mantis2K9
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 23:49 Post subject: |
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| ShadowX wrote: | | No I dont get it noir do I need to get it , you cant argue normaly on this topic so for that reason I dont even want to understand you , you offend people , call them names and yet you claim to be 35 wich I find very hard to believe. |
The only people I have called names are the ones who deserve it because they are ignorant, rude and just arguing for the sake of it, one of them has been banned.
you can read what I type out and agree with it or not, nothing you say or munkee says I agree with, its total rubbish to be honest.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2009 23:55 Post subject: |
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| Mantis2K9 wrote: |
you can read what I type out and agree with it or not, nothing you say or munkee says I agree with, its total rubbish to be honest. |
And you wonder why we are being rude , your stating everything you disagree with is rubbish when its not then claiming we are children / trolls as we have the audacity to have different opinions.
Spiderman's post is there in black and white , If you wish a second opinion post it on any other xbox forum with a bit of knowhow and the general consensus will be its ridiculous .
Its funny how on xbox-scene its a pretty well balanced debate and on xboxhacker the majority actually support the method , although here it seems most are opposed. Shows the underlining problem
| sabin1981 wrote: | but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.
Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin |
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 00:51 Post subject: |
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| Mantis2K9 wrote: | | ShadowX wrote: | | No I dont get it noir do I need to get it , you cant argue normaly on this topic so for that reason I dont even want to understand you , you offend people , call them names and yet you claim to be 35 wich I find very hard to believe. |
The only people I have called names are the ones who deserve it because they are ignorant, rude and just arguing for the sake of it, one of them has been banned.
you can read what I type out and agree with it or not, nothing you say or munkee says I agree with, its total rubbish to be honest. |
Wasnt you the one that wanted to have me banned , cba to scroll back few pages tho , however I never ever called anyone names , just said my opinion and my view of the ones that are banned.
It sucks for those people but again they knew what could happen.
also
| iNatan wrote: | I think I know what is happening here. All the cowards that were too scared of modding their console for various reasons, and had to pay $$$ for every game, are now on a self-congratulating rage.
| RMFX wrote: | | And who says that MS should stop at banning people from LIVE. |
If this lawsuit goes through, there is a big chance a judge will. |
I make so much money that I can buy whatever I want so I CBA to mod all my consoles , as I said I got 1 flashed one wich my son uses and most of the games he plays on it (the pirated games) , you know kids age 11 they cant wait till the game *retail* gets released , but most games we download for him I buy later when retail is out anyway *the good ones*
However I can understand that some people have to pirate there games cause they dont have money to buy games , however they are abusing the system and want more and more and more and when shit happends to there console they start to cry , ow wait I said that on my first post in this topic 
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 04:51 Post subject: |
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i thought u were making your last post here 3 posts ago?
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 05:58 Post subject: |
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| Tungsten wrote: | | i thought u were making your last post here 3 posts ago? |
You actualy took me serious there ?? wow you made my day .
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 11:19 Post subject: |
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That is common sense, and that's an issue for another thread (how people can be so stupid to play such a high profile game prerelease, connected to the net, for example), but this is not the issue here. Getting banned from Xbox live isn't either, that's MS service, they can do what they want. Disabling features on a console you own and paid for, and disabling game you purchased and legally own, that the issue.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 11:51 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | That is common sense, and that's an issue for another thread (how people can be so stupid to play such a high profile game prerelease, connected to the net, for example), but this is not the issue here. Getting banned from Xbox live isn't either, that's MS service, they can do what they want. Disabling features on a console you own and paid for, and disabling game you purchased and legally own, that the issue. |
lol played ODST french rls way to early and gamertag was suspended 30 days, thats a new one! but its just because its halo... a big title MS was involved in.
And I got a "code of conduct" on my profile... wasnt paying for live anyway, so just logged in with another gamertag = live again. Well now im banned, but we all are. And its nice to know MS fight back, so it makes it a little harder for us^^
Actually hope the next xbox will be harder to crack, to force me back to PC gaming 
Lots of people where banned for just having a flashed drive btw^^
Pre rls play is far from the only reason.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 11:57 Post subject: |
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BTW, I really want to see all the console gamers, who have been whining how PC gaming is so complicated because you need to upgrade your hardware every 3 years, weaseling back to PC gaming once they do the math of having to buy every game for an uncrackable console, each game costing $50 to $60 to $70 (what, you think only Dildovision is thinking about upping the prices?).
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 12:07 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | BTW, I really want to see all the console gamers, who have been whining how PC gaming is so complicated because you need to upgrade your hardware every 3 years, weaseling back to PC gaming once they do the math of having to buy every game for an uncrackable console, each game costing $50 to $60 to $70 (what, you think only Dildovision is thinking about upping the prices?). |
But seriously leo, console gaming is scary, because its so easy. Just download and burn, no waiting for cracks, it just works. 80% of games with a decent fps. What really made me angry about PC gaming was waiting for releases I knew the console games already had finished. Yeah, ok controls and gfx are better. But is it really worth it... what if I die in a accident tomorrow, because I was a PC gamer I would not have completed AC2
 Spoiler: | witch are so awesome btw |
I didn't like the feeling of always lagging behind the console gamers... but well some people can handle it. And most people aren't as obsessed with playing all/most games above 7/10
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 12:10 Post subject: |
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No, I was speaking of a hypothetical future, not currently.  And in that future, there will be no pre-releases.
But once they perfect their DRM schemes, and it seems Sony has done well, and I doubt MS will let it happen again especially after Sony didn't, it will be amusing to see everyone that played the "hardware price" card weasel back, and suddenly find that nuked releases and upgrading a CPU every three years is not so awful. 
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 17:07 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | That is common sense, and that's an issue for another thread (how people can be so stupid to play such a high profile game prerelease, connected to the net, for example), but this is not the issue here. Getting banned from Xbox live isn't either, that's MS service, they can do what they want. Disabling features on a console you own and paid for, and disabling game you purchased and legally own, that the issue. |
Ones more they disable your modded Console , they dont disable you bought XBL games noir do they disable you HDD.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 17:36 Post subject: |
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| ShadowX wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | That is common sense, and that's an issue for another thread (how people can be so stupid to play such a high profile game prerelease, connected to the net, for example), but this is not the issue here. Getting banned from Xbox live isn't either, that's MS service, they can do what they want. Disabling features on a console you own and paid for, and disabling game you purchased and legally own, that the issue. |
Ones more they disable your modded Console , they dont disable you bought XBL games noir do they disable you HDD. |
Actually they do, alot of reports from poeple who got their licences revoked turning the games they bought into trials. To be honnest, im suprise they didnt do that for me since i got banned nearly 2 months ago for using phished accounts. I guess im the lucky one
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 18:01 Post subject: |
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. You modded, you got caught. Get over it.
No one is going to win a lawsuit against MS for how they banned, including the HD corruption, lack of bought Live content (Arcade games etc) and HD installing. All these features are covered by the EULA from MS for the 360 and live.
MS made dam sure that they were legally covered on all fronts before doing the bans. This is MS FFS, not some small little company, they have multiple legal teams and departments.
It maybe a little immoral on MS part. But in there eyes is quite small compared to how many games were played pirated by everyone who modded there firmware.
Its not like previous generations were mods actually allowed homebrew and user content. This mod had one purpose, stealing games.
Everyone who's crying over this needs to buck up, realize MS had every legal right to do what they did, and move on.
Read the fine print and stop the useless bitching.
| Jenni wrote: | | I drunk. I don't fucking care! |
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Nov 2009 18:13 Post subject: |
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| Kommando wrote: | | ShadowX wrote: |
Ones more they disable your modded Console , they dont disable you bought XBL games noir do they disable you HDD. |
Actually they do, alot of reports from poeple who got their licences revoked turning the games they bought into trials. To be honnest, im suprise they didnt do that for me since i got banned nearly 2 months ago for using phished accounts. I guess im the lucky one |
The only way they would revert to trial is if the games are on another account / bought on another xbox. also Not because your banned , Its because These always need a live connection to play to authenticate them.
You Can try it . Buy from 1 xbox , Download it to another. Take the rj45 out and try and boot, It will revert to trial until you connect to xbox live ( to stop people whoring out gamerprofiles with multiple games / dlc bought )
This is why its an argument thats hardly brung up . Because If you retain the original license ( bought on that xbox with that gamertag ) you will be able to play it to your hearts content , Banned or not.
| sabin1981 wrote: | but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.
Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin |
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