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AnimalMother




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Location: England
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 12:27    Post subject:
Haha, you guys are pathetic, you're acting as if Obsidian entertainment actually give a shit about some pompous PC whores who don't buy their game. Of course they don't!

In actuality they make enough money from their console sales so that they don't even have to bother porting it to PC. People like you reinforce any decision to ignore the PC market and develop for consoles exclusively.

If you're that stupid that you don't know the only reason developers exist is to make money then i'm suprised you even know how to run a PC. Maybe in 10 years when no good games come out for the PC any more, you'll have to eventually accept that consoles do play host to many good games and you have nowhere left to turn in regards to interactive entertainment.

Great work guys!
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javlar




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Location: Kalmar, Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 12:33    Post subject:
So you think "some pompous PC whores" will care what you say and go buy the game now?

Well at least in 10 years you can say: I told you so

Great work mate!
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AnimalMother




Posts: 12390
Location: England
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 12:37    Post subject:
javlar wrote:
So you think "some pompous PC whores" will care what you say and go buy the game now?

Well at least in 10 years you can say: I told you so

Great work mate!


haha, of course I don't care. But I think someone needed to tell you how pathetic your whinging is.
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grisley




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 12:42    Post subject:
well i dont think that this is a pc - consoles clash topic. this is a kotor 2 topic, and i would really really love the man that could give me some info about its release (i know the retail dates). whether there are some prob˙s or anything...

which group took this on anyway?
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gold24




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 14:08    Post subject:
well no worries game is out tommrow:0...
too bad it has so many bugs
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Injurious




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Location: Toronto
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 15:01    Post subject:
it's on sale at futureshop for 39.99 Shocked

but only if you order it online Sad sale ends when the game comes out Laughing


We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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Divinian




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 15:03    Post subject:
consoles are pc's.. u should see it as a pc thats been totally converted to a gaming station, so that u wont be pulled out of games cuz ur firewall detected something or cuz windows has a smartass remark.

Im no fan of consoles either.. I prefer to be in charge of what I do.. but its nonsence to say that in 10 years there arent any pc's left.. only consoles..

if you ask me I think in 10 years there will still be people crying their eyes out over something that in the end, is just a users preference.. one likes consoles, the other doesnt.. lets just hope that in 10 years time, the game developers will be able to develop their games for all mediums, without any loss in game quality

just my 2 cents Smile
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Fugen




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 15:08    Post subject:
c'mon guys, I mean wtf - is this thread about Kotor 2, or PC vs. console war


chill out man, life is beautifull...
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AnimalMother




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Location: England
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 15:26    Post subject:
Divinian wrote:


Im no fan of consoles either.. I prefer to be in charge of what I do.. but its nonsence to say that in 10 years there arent any pc's left.. only consoles..


I didn't say there won't be any PC's left. I said that the developers will just move to consoles because they get better sales there and it's easier to develop for.

It's a possibility.
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Injurious




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Location: Toronto
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 15:28    Post subject:
well pc will still be an fps market

they can move onto consoles only if we get decent fps Very Happy


We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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javlar




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Location: Kalmar, Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 15:55    Post subject:
I wouldnt mind all games hopping to a console, dont bother me as long as TV's catch up (quality AND price) with monitors and the future consoles use keyboard/mouse as well as handcontrollers.

But tbh enough said about that, like half of 8th february has gone already, GIVE THE GAME PLIX Sad
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Ize




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Location: Refridgerator
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 15:57    Post subject:
to say it with dukes voice:
"Where is it?" shouldn't the game be out by now? Smile


.: Cold as Ize :.
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javlar




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Location: Kalmar, Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 16:08    Post subject:
Dr Raoul Duke? When and in which book/movie? Sad
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Darkl0rd




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 16:10    Post subject:
Divinian wrote:
lets just hope that in 10 years time, the game developers will be able to develop their games for all mediums, without any loss in game quality


Would be nice, but it won't happen.
PC hardware constantyl improoves. The PC gets more powerrfull every month. A console doesn't. You can't upgrade it. Every few years, the console manufactures realise that they have fallen so far behind the PC that they are forced to make a new Console...and half a year later it's again outdated and multiiplatform games again have to be dumbed down from the PC standards.

This problem has alwas been there since consoles exist and it will always bee there. Some developers just don't realize that PC gamers have higher standards the console gamers and that a fantastic console game only is a second-class PC game.

Just don't worry about it. It won't change, not even in 10 years.
There are more than enough developers who make great PC games, and these are the ones I support with my money.
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Hero98




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 16:40    Post subject:
Darkl0rd wrote:
Would be nice, but it won't happen.
PC hardware constantyl improoves. The PC gets more powerrfull every month. A console doesn't. You can't upgrade it. Every few years, the console manufactures realise that they have fallen so far behind the PC that they are forced to make a new Console...and half a year later it's again outdated and multiiplatform games again have to be dumbed down from the PC standards.

This problem has alwas been there since consoles exist and it will always bee there. Some developers just don't realize that PC gamers have higher standards the console gamers and that a fantastic console game only is a second-class PC game.

Just don't worry about it. It won't change, not even in 10 years.
There are more than enough developers who make great PC games, and these are the ones I support with my money.


That's the biggest pile of crap hurting my eyes in quite some time here now. How's life down there in your blinders' hole?
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Darkl0rd




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 16:46    Post subject:
Hero98 wrote:

That's the biggest pile of crap hurting my eyes in quite some time here now. How's life down there in your blinders' hole?


Nice, thank you.

But seriously: If it is such a 'pile of crap', how about you tell me what exactely is wrong about it.
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6Samiel6




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 18:13    Post subject:
Hero98 wrote:
Darkl0rd wrote:
Would be nice, but it won't happen.
PC hardware constantyl improoves. The PC gets more powerrfull every month. A console doesn't. You can't upgrade it. Every few years, the console manufactures realise that they have fallen so far behind the PC that they are forced to make a new Console...and half a year later it's again outdated and multiiplatform games again have to be dumbed down from the PC standards.

This problem has alwas been there since consoles exist and it will always bee there. Some developers just don't realize that PC gamers have higher standards the console gamers and that a fantastic console game only is a second-class PC game.

Just don't worry about it. It won't change, not even in 10 years.
There are more than enough developers who make great PC games, and these are the ones I support with my money.




That's the biggest pile of crap hurting my eyes in quite some time here now. How's life down there in your blinders' hole?


I know! Reality can sometimes be very cruel.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 18:39    Post subject:
Oh god, you pc OR console fanboys are fricking hillarious.
Take a minute and listen to yourselfs for god sake. So much crap coming from both of you, it's insane.

Grow up and appreciate what both words have to offer for crying out loud. :/
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Xman111




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 18:54    Post subject:
PC Release Date 5 February! AND WHERE NFO RELEASE OF THIS GAME???!!
Today 8 February!

Groups sleeping?
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 18:56    Post subject:
Xman111, have you been sleeping? Smile
The pc games scene have been slow for quite some time now, so this doesn't come as a surprise.
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deadmarsh




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 19:28    Post subject:
it isnt out in the stores yet... Will be in the stores today 8th feb... silly ppl, check www.ebgames.com their dates usually are accurate
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deadok




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 19:53    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:

and it's easier to develop for.

Ha-ha
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bnf




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 20:12    Post subject:
phaeton wrote:
its gold, but it has a new protection that is even worse (yes, even worse. moment of silence) than SF3.

securom: v7.00.00.0003

this thing is a big bitch, so expect delays :/


The German version has SecuROM 5.03.13.0018. Don't know if different language versions have different copy protections (guess so if US really has 7.x) but if that is the case maybe groups can use the "less protected" exe to crack the game? Or am I talking nonsense (I'm not a coder/cracker/hacker/whatever).
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woozap




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 20:19    Post subject:
nah bnf, none of these people here got a clue. first of all, starforce wil not work together with securom. they are competitors.

2nd, why put on different securom versions language wise. Lucasarts has to pay alot of money for every securom version/update which they want to use on their products. So putting a different version on another product and the newest version on the english/US version doesnt really make any sense. Because it would undermine version Securom v7. I mean the game gets pirated everywhere except in the US? lol. that would be really dumb if they would do that and a waste of money also. Put v7 on all releases then.

My guess is that soon we'll expect something nice released by one of the groups Wink

otherwise -> buy it cheapo's. Smile
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bnf




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 20:39    Post subject:
woozap wrote:
first of all, starforce wil not work together with securom. they are competitors.


That much is obvious, but nobody mentioned Starforce in relation to this game.

woozap wrote:
2nd, why put on different securom versions language wise. Lucasarts has to pay alot of money for every securom version/update which they want to use on their products. So putting a different version on another product and the newest version on the english/US version doesnt really make any sense. Because it would undermine version Securom v7. I mean the game gets pirated everywhere except in the US? lol. that would be really dumb if they would do that and a waste of money also. Put v7 on all releases then.


Don't ask me. One person says the game has v7. Another person on a different board says he got it in the store and it has v5. I can't confirm either because my copy won't arrive before Friday. I do remember cases of different language versions having different copy protections though, happened when a game was released by different publishers in different parts of the world.

woozap wrote:
otherwise -> buy it cheapo's. Smile


I am. I was just hoping to get it a few days earlier. Silly isn't it, so many games unfinished and I'm hoping to get another one asap.
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AnimalMother




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Location: England
PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 20:43    Post subject:
deadok wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:

and it's easier to develop for.

Ha-ha


Funny?

Developers have even said this and the reason is obvious. They know the limitations of the hardware and don't need to design their game to run on all the different configurations.
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Claws




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 20:49    Post subject:
You people keep on downloading PC games instead of buying them and in a couple of years every single PC game will be a crappy console port.

I just love how some people here are whining about PC developers selling out, why the hell do you think they are selling out?? Cuz of selfish people like you who never pay for anything!
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woozap




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 21:05    Post subject:
Well sorry Claws, but to me it seems that the console piracy scene is bigger and better then before. Console games get pirated before store dates, protections are virtually non-existant. (San Andreas for example) Only thing you need is a good mod-chip.

Which is easy to get if you enter 'modchipping for xbox/ps2 in country of your preference' @google.

The companies should not blame piracy for bad sales, but the quality of the product they produced and the price they tagged it! crap games get no sales good games get sales.

bnf, the starforce thing i was referring to is because of an earlier post in this thread when a guy mentioned starforce & securom worked together to make Securom v7.
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 21:18    Post subject:
Claws wrote:
You people keep on downloading PC games instead of buying them and in a couple of years every single PC game will be a crappy console port.

I just love how some people here are whining about PC developers selling out, why the hell do you think they are selling out?? Cuz of selfish people like you who never pay for anything!


Last 5 games i bought, in order:

World of Warcraft
Lord Of The Rings : Battle For Middle Earth
Half Life 2
HALO 2 (well not PC but in last 5 bought games)
Rome Total War

I contribute.


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deadok




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Feb 2005 21:30    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
don't need to design their game to run on all the different configurations.

easier not, but cost less money/time
Quote:
They know the limitations of the hardware

Yep, those limitations makes life easy.... A-ha...
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