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Cohen
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 Posted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 23:55 Post subject: everyone is just a cunt, and money is frustrating. |
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So when I was flat broke, I strived to get more money. I worked hard. I worked very fucking hard. After some time, I got what I wanted and snowballed with it. It built up, and got me what I ultimately wanted when I was broke : money. When you have it, you get bored.
Discuss.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 00:10 Post subject: |
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It's funny you should say Wgem, the mrs finishing with me has coincided with me raking in a load of cash from work (IT recruitment) and before this ive always had nowt. Now that I have money in my pocket, but am now single, it seems almost irrelative.
I'm from a very poor background as well, always taught money is a luxury, so I strive to have as much as I can, or so I though it was a luxury anyway. Now I'm here though, it seems a minor thing.
Those who have not, want it more than anything those that have it, are not bothered by it.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 00:17 Post subject: |
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I agree.
PumpAction, feeding the poor is yet another illusion; being that if you give away a luxury that you have to someone who doesnt have it will make things better. But when you break that down, ultimately what you are doing is using someone who is worse off than you to make yourself feel better and eventually, that person will realize they where given something and didnt have to work for it. Which ultimately means they will then be in your situation somewhat only worse because what they have wasnt earned, it was given. So if the person has any sense of honor or they will regret taking it or spend most of there time trying to give it back in some way, which then makes them a slave to their situation.
No sir, feeding the poor isnt the way out, not to the individual at least. If I was some big faceless corporation that wanted more clients to think they where kind by giving to the poor then yes, that would be a solution. But you know what? Most of the things that have made me money have no ties to me what so ever, I am not famous in any way nor am I recognized as a responsible individual.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 00:21 Post subject: |
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you know what? My partner works full time. Regardless of how much money I have she refuses to leave a job, and works 40+ hours a week on £6.20 an hour. She is a better person than me, and I look up to her for it.
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No you should support projects that support the poor to get up and do their work good. I saw this documentary where they taught the poor farmers how to till the land and how to use the water efficient and guess what, they were able to grow some quality food and while everything around them looked like a fucking desert, his land looked like a nice little forest 
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 00:33 Post subject: |
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Invest in your future. Save your money to buy a new place for your own. Go where you haven't been. See the world. Share it with someone you love
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 00:53 Post subject: |
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Everything is an illusion; reality is how you perceive it to be. Value and wealth is based upon the perception of the masses.
The established average values of the masses defines your goals and your purpose in life.
Think for a moment if what you want is something you genuinely want.
Maybe your life isn't your own, maybe you're just living the ideal.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 01:10 Post subject: |
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I'm not living the ideal. I sit in my appt all day playing games, watching movies and doing odd bits of "work" online while my GF is at work. I do nothing with my excess money, I have everything I want, Ive been and seen pretty much all the places Ive wanted to on holidays and the like.
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Also sounds like somebody has no kids to spend it on. Ohhh. this might be a good time to have some.. Plenty of toys to spend your money on..and mainly to get your head out of despair. Just dont hire nannies like all the other pansies.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 02:08 Post subject: |
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It isn't about having a lot of money, but having enough money to live comfortably. I have more than a fair share of cash lying around in the bank account, and yet I don't do anything with it. I've been thinking a lot about that lately, mainly due to another thread we had here a couple of weeks ago. Consider: I could buy a car, a new computer, a new watch, an iphone etc etc. But what do those things really mean to me? An iPhone? I'll get bored of it in 2 weeks. A new car? My old Volvo is fine, why would I need more flash. A new computer? Do I really want to be sacrificing my academics for video games?
But then it dawned on me. I don't need all those little trinkets, all I need is peace of mind. Before, when I would go to a restaurant I would always fret over the $15 meal. When time came to pay tuition, I would fret over whether mom and dad would have to take out a second mortgage, whether I would need to get a loan, whether I should have gone to community college, whether my 11 year old sister will have enough to put her through Stanford... but now, all those things are working themselves out. I just extend the credit card over the counter, smile, and toss the receipt. I don't need new toys in my life to amuse myself. What I want, what I need is the peace of mind and freedom to do whatever I want. Do I want to spend the afternoon reading a new book on my Kindle? Yes. Do I want to go with my girlfriend to San Diego? Yes. Do I want to fly over this weekend and visit my parents and tell them how much I love them? Yes. Can I do all these things? yes, very easily, with no worries. I get to choose now how I want to spend my life, what my responsibilities are and what course of action I want to pursue. My life is no longer dictated by my loan officer who wants the next installment paid by January or my boss who needs some code audited by Monday. Fuck that shit, I don't need them anymore.
I'm not suggesting you live a life with no responsibilities, obviously that just leads to laziness, sloth, excess and an eventually pointless, miserable life. What I am suggesting is that with money comes the freedom for you to pursue whatever you want. For me that's college, a bit of gaming, some reverse engineering, coding... Find something that makes you happy, and do it. I know that empty feeling you get when you stay at home all day watching movies and playing games. It's no way to lead your life.
And fuck it's not like my life is perfect. Spent the entire week talking to a dozen people on the phone at accuweather setting up a buy, only to have the CSO or whoever the fuck quash it because they don't do teeth whitening. Wasted time, wasted stress, wasted everything, fuck it all. That's why I'm reading up on SEO, passive marketting, what not. I don't want to spend the rest of my life "hustling" ad campaigns, dealing with advertisers not paying me, platforms banning me, networks lowering my payouts to line their pockets at my expense. I like the money, I don't like the lifestyle. All I want is something(preferably a site) that can run itself so I can do whatever I want with myself.
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whats with family and kids? thats the only reason we're here for anyway. and probably the only real one...
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spankie
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well, they have a word for that wgem. It is called a quarter life crisis.
I discovered it a while ago when i was trying to find a suiting job for me. I felt like i was dropped in the fucking middle of the ocean and did not know which direction to swim in, and if i am swimming in the right direction, will i ever make it to the island?
You are not alone out there, a lot of 20-30 yr people have it. But it is more of a luxury problem than anything else. You have everything you thought you wanted, but still you do not know which way to go.
you just have to keep yourself busy and keep yourself entertained... I for example, after graduating, started getting into mountaineering like a crazy one. Reading books, making sites, climbing, hiking.
I went to high-school because thats supposed to be the ticket to a happy life. Then i went to university, graduated with very good results and then... What to do? 'Luckely' the shit hit the fan and i could not find a decent biotech job, so i pursued a PhD. Because thats a ticket to future success... But now after a year or so i discovered something...
Doing things for a happy future is bullshit because you live now and not the future. I am more than ever confident i am capable of doing 90% of the graduate jobs out there without having the degree. IF you need someone to tell you what to do, then get a job with a boss who tells you what to do. Man the fuck up and get some responsabilities, join an organization or so.
I got involved again with my student-club where i used to be in (and where i still know some people). Giving additional study advice/lessons to 18-20yr old where i can, help young people organize stuff, help them whenever needed. You get a load more from those than you will ever get anywhere else.
And other people might say it is no way to behave (being @ a cafe with students in the middle of the week, oh no) when you are 24/25, but i dont give a fuck. I am already making more money than 95% of the people who ever told me i had to study more/work harder/behave better. And idd money does not make happy, but having enough for everything you want is damn handy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter-life_crisis
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A primary cause of the stress associated with the "quarter-life crisis" is financial in nature; most professions have become highly competitive in recent years. Positions of relative security – such as tenured positions at universities and "partner" status at law firms – have dwindled in number. This, combined with excessive downsizing, means that many people will never experience occupational security in their lives, and this is doubly unlikely in young adulthood. Generation X was the first generation to meet this uncertain "New Economy" en masse. There is also the problem of crippling student loans.[citation needed]
The era when a professional career meant a life of occupational security – thus allowing an individual to proceed to establish an "inner life" – seems to be coming to an end. Under circumstances virtually effectuating stress disorders, Financial professionals are often expected to spend at least 80 hours per week in the office, and people in the legal, medical, educational, and managerial professions may average more than 60.[2][3] In most cases, these long hours are de facto involuntary, reflecting economic and social insecurity. While these ills plague adults at all ages, their worst victims are ambitious, unestablished young adults.[citation needed]
College graduates are physically and mentally capable of performing many jobs, but lack the "1-2 years of experience" required to get hired and consequently end up doing simple tedious boring jobs for which they are significantly overqualified. In college, some students spend all their time working hard to earn good grades and graduate on time, but do not gain any "real world" experience with which to secure a job.[citation needed]
These unsettling emotions and insecurities are not uncommon at this age, nor at any age in adult life. In the context of the quarter-life crisis, however, they occur shortly after a young person – usually an educated professional, in this context – enters the "real world".[1] After entering adult life and coming to terms with its responsibilities, some individuals find themselves experiencing career stagnation or extreme insecurity. The individual often realizes the real world is tougher, more competitive and less forgiving than they imagined. Furthermore, the qualifications they have spent so much time and money earning are not likely to prepare them for this disillusionment.
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And this one hit me right in my fucking face from day one @ the job. Education gives you no toolbox for work-life, that was quite clear...
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Furthermore, a factor contributing to quarter-life crisis may be the difficulty in adapting to a workplace environment. In college, professors' expectations are clearly given and students receive frequent feedback on their performance in their courses. One progresses from year to year in the education system. In contrast, within a workplace environment, one may be, for some time, completely unaware of a boss's displeasure with one's performance, or of one's colleagues' dislike of one's personality. One does not automatically make progress. Office politics require interpersonal skills that are largely unnecessary for success in an educational setting.
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TSR69
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 14:58 Post subject: |
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You have a lot of good things going wgem and I have no reasons to doubt your claims here on this board like the app for the iPhone. But yeah does (financial) success make one happy? That differs from person to person I would say. For me it is definitely work to live and not live to work.
I got my unfair share of bad luck in my life starting at birth. By the time i hit puberty I was already a nihilist. I am forty now, unemployed, midlife crisis just hit me and there has not been a Mrs for quite some time now. But enough of me I should start my own bitching thread if I want to speak of that.
You would not make a post like this one if all was for-filling in your life. It is up to you to find out what is missing. Having children was already mentioned by others but working at home and having to take care of noisy toddlers does not seem a good idea to me. Do you have friends to hang out with? It is important to have activities outside your relationship. Ideally both partners have their own friends and activities.
What about your business, you mentioned somewhere else that being a freelancer is quite stressful. Perhaps you should decide to enhance it, hire people who can take stuff off your platter like acquisition. Having to produce and doing acquisition is awful. I have seen that with friends of mine, working 80 hours a week, making good money but the stress. I can't live like that.
Something else that I noticed about your posts is a lack of empathy. Okay this kinda personal but has it always been like that or is it something that has grown? I think you realise that yourself since you wrote about your Mrs (paraphrase): "She is a better person than I am." It is pretty easy to become one of those insensitive bastards that only see opportunities to (ab)use people. I am not saying that your brain is fucked up but can't hurt to speak to a counsellor and doctors make bad counsellors. Enough said.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 15:10 Post subject: |
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Still, better have money than not.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 15:56 Post subject: |
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People are never happy, including me, it's always something, that's the point, we are miserable creatures.
Sure money doesn't do it, heck there were famous rich people in history that committed suicide and people thought they had it all, money, babes, fame.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Nov 2009 16:03 Post subject: |
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the pursuit for happiness through materialistic means has never really fulfilled me, some claim that it works for them but i don't believe it. i'd recommend doing something you've always been interested in, because that is the only true value. for example, maybe you've always wanted to extend your knowledge of maths, art history or whatever. take courses or such, it's never too late. I think it will work out, just pursue something that has always interested you.
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