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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 06:33    Post subject: lol woops!
Don't build a computer if you choose to be lazy!

My current system is my computer I built back in 2006, socket 939 amd x2 4400+ 2.2ghz blah blah blah

It's been amazing and hasn't given me issues till recently, I discovered the true bottleneck of it when I didn't see any performance gain from my 8800GT to my 5850 *ouch*

Didn't think much of it, meh, still got decent FPS, until dragon age, playing it 15FPS cause the engine is poorly optimized and I got fed up.

Time to do my first OC ever. Went from 2.2 to 2.75 stable. Ran Prime95...no crashes..nothing....but....why is it at 90C under full load!? IT's gotta jsut be prime95 and it's hurtful ways.

Full load under normal condition was like high 70's mid 80's. Meh, wasn't crashing or anything so whatever. Till today, getting a little odd feeling that something is wrong since my heatsink is a bit cold.

Then it dawns on me, I built this back in 2006...I haven't replaced the thermal compound since Neutral

I shut it off, take off my heatink. Oh...my...god....there was like..NOTHING left, little splotch here and there but it was so dried up used that it was almost..not there lol.

Clean it all off, reaaply, turn system back on. Oh looky, run prime95 again and it doesn't go above 60c, so took 20C's off the full load and dropped about 10c under idle.

Idle I was sitting at about 40c now it's at about 32, full load under prime95 is no higher than 65C when it WAS at 90C. Under Dragon Age it was at like 75C now it's no higher than 55

Lesson learned, stop procrastinating and being fucking lazy.


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Slizza




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 06:53    Post subject:
Hmm the old paste wouldn't account for that kind of difference unless it was caked on.
You must have plastered it on too thick or the mounting of the HSF was a bit off.
A fine layer is all that's needed to bridge tiny spaces between the Heatsink and the CPU.
Hope you used the paste spairingly this time.

Out of interest, how much performance gain have you seen in Dragon age on the now cooler overclocked cpu?


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 06:55    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
Hmm the old paste wouldn't account for that kind of difference unless it was caked on.
You must have plastered it on too thick or the mounting of the HSF was a bit off.
A fine layer is all that's needed to bridge tiny spaces between the Heatsink and the CPU.
Hope you used the paste spairingly this time.

Out of interest, how much performance gain have you seen in Dragon age on the now cooler overclocked cpu?


Well it wasn't caked on as far as I remember, but I haven't reapplied my arctic silver in almost 4 years. Your supposed to do it I think at least once a year

well I get the same performance before and after the thermal paste, but as for it overlocked period. With 2.2 on my 5850 I was getting on average of 12-15FPS during heavy battles, on 2.75 I'm getting 35-40FPS during heavy battles Smile


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Slizza




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 07:03    Post subject:
Massive boost in performance for a small cpu overclock.
Perhaps the problem was not the clock speed and was caused by excessive heat on the cpu?

Fixed now though so no worries. Very Happy


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 07:12    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
Massive boost in performance for a small cpu overclock.
Perhaps the problem was not the clock speed and was caused by excessive heat on the cpu?

Fixed now though so no worries. Very Happy


I got the gains BEFORE I did anything with the thermal paste. The OC was 500MHz per core and it's just that much more faster getting information to my GPU and shit so it makes sense to me.

but ya, I can't believe I did that lol. IT's running no higher than 58 now when it was almost 80 while playing dragon age lmao


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 08:28    Post subject:
Congrats mate! *laughs* When you told me it was running 87c on the 2nd core... I got more than little worried Laughing
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locke_digitalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 10:51    Post subject:
Glad you caught it before it melted the fuck down. What a nightmare that would have been.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 12:30    Post subject:
Your still going to be bottlenecked to fuck though, you should run a bandwidth test up and down gpu/cpu to see the real figures and outcome..

I forget the applications name you can use now, but even with a dual "E" core intel cpu and a 4870 card the cpu > gpu speeds are terribly slower than gpu > cpu.. If i recall sticking in a quad core of same sort of standing made the diff then, as well as a slightly newer board..

Soon as I get issues with 3.4ghz e6600 and 4870 1gb, then ill start changing the spec a bit.

Fortunatley its not enough concern in games i play so far at all, but I know in games like say heavy AI ones albeit unoptimized arma2, then it sucks bigtime if you lack in that area of bandwidth.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Nov 2009 17:48    Post subject:
well the 5850 was step one of the new build, it'll be backed up by an amd x4 955 eventually


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