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zmed




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 15:48    Post subject:
I was hoping for something like this. Nothing's worse than getting a new party member later in the game and his/her stats are utterly useless because of auto-leveling.

However: will it respec all points, including book-learned ones as well?
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bani789




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 15:56    Post subject:
Has anyone played through the game on hard? My first playthrough was on easy, and 2nd I'm doing on normal and I'm thinking I'd try another with a main character as a mage and push through the game on hard but that sounds masochistic. Is it as brutal as I'd think it would be?
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jimmyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 16:02    Post subject:
I'm currently playing on my first play through, I took Hard mode as a mage main character. It's easy. I can't even imagine how easy "Easy" mode is. Some of the spells are quite imbalanced/abuseable.
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inz




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 16:16    Post subject:
Well that respec mod would be great if it actually worked - installed fine and its in the correct folder, but the bird isn't where it's supposed to be. Oh well.
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Radamez




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 16:23    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Well that respec mod would be great if it actually worked - installed fine and its in the correct folder, but the bird isn't where it's supposed to be. Oh well.


Worked fine here. Hold TAB as you enter the camp, the bird should be just on your right.
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inz




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 16:26    Post subject:
No there was something funky with my addins.xml not recording new entries properly, solved it by removing it completely and having DAUpdater reinstall all DLCs as well as the respec mod.

I'm not blind like some of those poor saps in the mod comments, the bird isn't that hard to find if it's actually there. Razz
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 16:35    Post subject:
jimmyu wrote:
I'm currently playing on my first play through, I took Hard mode as a mage main character. It's easy. I can't even imagine how easy "Easy" mode is. Some of the spells are quite imbalanced/abuseable.


I'm playing on hard as arcane warrior level 12. I like the difficulty at this level. But alot depends on what skills you pick for everyone and equipment.

Some of the harder fights are with templars and sometimes when you have 4-5 mages. Templars damage/stun/drain mana, and mages can kill you with few mass damage spells.

But I use force field on toughest enemy to take them out and crushing prison on another, and that's two enemies out of play for while. Force field works nicely on some bosses too, but the tougher the enemy the greater chance of resist.
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 16:56    Post subject:
So. Right now I'm in the Mage tower and after you've done the 3 summoning rituals there's a hidden 4th one, the ghost appears and you're supposed to steal a note from it but for the love of god I can't get it. Do I need like stealing 4 or what? I'm trying to do it with Leliana but who steals shouldn't matter, right? O.o She's got stealing 2 and it fails and fails and fails and gets pretty annoying.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 17:05    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
So. Right now I'm in the Mage tower and after you've done the 3 summoning rituals there's a hidden 4th one, the ghost appears and you're supposed to steal a note from it but for the love of god I can't get it. Do I need like stealing 4 or what? I'm trying to do it with Leliana but who steals shouldn't matter, right? O.o She's got stealing 2 and it fails and fails and fails and gets pretty annoying.


I did it with leliana with stealing 2 and got it on first try. She has 30 cunning though. Playing on hard difficulty. The note is only for codex purposes. You do not gain anything else at all besides codex.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 17:28    Post subject:
lol This game has shown the complete ignorance of a massive amount of consoltards. The amount of crying on the forums from console gamers cause they can't handle the complexity of this game is amazing.


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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 17:44    Post subject:
Well, I could use a bit of advice...
As I've got ass wiped, I am beginning to think abour reroll...
Considering the fact that party will contain Alistar for tanking and Morri+wynn as artillery what change i do have to play as rouge/assassin with dual daggers?

EDIT : If so, which build?
http://daforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=703996&forum=135
Different opinions I see...


harballaz wrote:
Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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Radamez




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 17:57    Post subject:
Rifleman wrote:
Well, I could use a bit of advice...
As I've got ass wiped, I am beginning to think abour reroll...
Considering the fact that party will contain Alistar for tanking and Morri+wynn as artillery what change i do have to play as rouge/assassin with dual daggers?


Rogues are fun, I don't know why there's a lot of QQ about them on the forums, sure they're not gods like mages but if you build and play one right, they are effective and imo a lot more satisfying in combat. I wish now I'd played one in my first play-through instead of an cheese-mode mage...

That said, if you're taking 2 mages it might be more convinient for you to take a bow rather than melee, that way AOE will be less of a pain to use. Personally, I think dagger-rogue/healer/tank/DW warrior is the most fun setup. mage/mage/mage/tank for ultimate easymode.
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 17:58    Post subject:
cybtropic wrote:
Anyone know how/what is the attack score for an arcane warrior? I know spellpower is supposed to determine the damage, and magic is supposed to substitute for strength requirements, but nowhere does it say what the attack score is.

I have an arcane warrior with 45 magic and 55 spellpower using a two-handed sword, but he misses so often when attacking an orange colored enemy that it is a complete joke. Seems that since magic stave attacks never miss a target unless blocked, it makes no sense at all to have an arcane warrior use a melee weapon if they constantly miss their target.

Anyone have any insight on this?

Thanks


DEXTERITY
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:07    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
lol This game has shown the complete ignorance of a massive amount of consoltards. The amount of crying on the forums from console gamers cause they can't handle the complexity of this game is amazing.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:10    Post subject:
@Sin/SpykeZ

I really wish I could find that quote of Epsilon's, the one where he basically said console gamers are braindead morons.

That was classic and SO fucking apt right now.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:27    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
cybtropic wrote:
Anyone know how/what is the attack score for an arcane warrior? I know spellpower is supposed to determine the damage, and magic is supposed to substitute for strength requirements, but nowhere does it say what the attack score is.

I have an arcane warrior with 45 magic and 55 spellpower using a two-handed sword, but he misses so often when attacking an orange colored enemy that it is a complete joke. Seems that since magic stave attacks never miss a target unless blocked, it makes no sense at all to have an arcane warrior use a melee weapon if they constantly miss their target.

Anyone have any insight on this?

Thanks


DEXTERITY


Yea I know the game says dexterity, but no way to verify if spellpower has any effect on attack score if you are an arcane warrior. Game doesn't show any attack score stat for mages.
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Lithy




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:45    Post subject:
I have question regrading one of the last Slim Couldry's quest "Tears of Andraste ":

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:48    Post subject:
Lithy wrote:
I have question regrading one of the last Slim Couldry's quest "Tears of Andraste ":

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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:48    Post subject:
cybtropic wrote:
Yea I know the game says dexterity, but no way to verify if spellpower has any effect on attack score if you are an arcane warrior. Game doesn't show any attack score stat for mages.

Staves are special because despite they never miss, they never land critical hits.

Other melee weapons still use dexterity to calculate chances to hit, so I don't know why arcane warriors should be an exception. Such hybrid would need strength and dexterity as well as magic and spellpower, making it rather inefficient on the whole. Why would any warrior work without the first two stats?
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:50    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
@Sin/SpykeZ

I really wish I could find that quote of Epsilon's, the one where he basically said console gamers are braindead morons.

That was classic and SO fucking apt right now.


Epsilon: another thing I found when looking through forums, theres a bridge puzzle later on thats quite tough, on the console version you can't make mistakes Razz
Epsilon: however in the pc version it's tough
Epsilon: thats a nodge nodge wink wink from the developers that console users are dumber than pc users


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Lithy




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:54    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Lithy wrote:
I have question regrading one of the last Slim Couldry's quest "Tears of Andraste ":

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:56    Post subject:
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Sounds like it could be, as it worked just fine for me. Make sure to hold TAB so you can see the highlighted exit on the ground.
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WiCKed666




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 18:59    Post subject:
need some help with mages tower
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Razacka2




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 19:00    Post subject:
Don't know if you noticed this but:

Dragon Age Origins DLC-ARM

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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 19:00    Post subject:
Can't solve that stupid mages quest 'find places of power'.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 19:02    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Can't solve that stupid mages quest 'find places of power'.


Define; "Can't solve" Razz

There are two places you most likely won't have access to until near the end of the game (in fact, the Places of Power quest was one of my final ones)
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Lithy




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 19:04    Post subject:
Just played again from different save game spot ; it works fine now.
But still there is the treasure?

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 19:05    Post subject:
Oh!! LMAO!!

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Lithy




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 19:09    Post subject:
^^ as you command, sir Razz
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2009 19:18    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
cybtropic wrote:
Yea I know the game says dexterity, but no way to verify if spellpower has any effect on attack score if you are an arcane warrior. Game doesn't show any attack score stat for mages.

Staves are special because despite they never miss, they never land critical hits.

Other melee weapons still use dexterity to calculate chances to hit, so I don't know why arcane warriors should be an exception. Such hybrid would need strength and dexterity as well as magic and spellpower, making it rather inefficient on the whole. Why would any warrior work without the first two stats?


Well for an arcane warrior, strength is not needed AT ALL, because magic is used instead, but I guess they still need dex for attack score (plus bonus to defense). But the game makes no mention how magic affects attack score.

I just question why anyone would have an arcane warrior go into melee with a sword, etc, it makes no sense at all. An arcane warrior wearing heavy armor and using a staff can attack long range, never miss, and be able to cast spells. So why would anyone ever give arcane warriors melee weapons? Not only will you do less damage due to misses all the time, but you will only be able to cast few spells due to combat magic penalty. Just makes no sense and completely pointless. By the time you even get close enough for melee, the arcane warrior with staff already shot 2-3 times and can instantly change targets without moving all around. Plus a staff adds to spellpower making spells even better.

Anyone playing arcane warrior with melee weapons? I guess you could use the staff to attack then switch to melee weapons, but thats alot of clicking in order to do less damage due to constantly missing when attacking. I know you can use tactics, but I don't use tactics for main character anyway.


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