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couleur
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It bothers me that you cant have a charisma based wizard like in D&D to get high enough persuasion skills needed for some quests.
I dont wanna lvl up cunning as I need the 2 major magic attributes for my mage. And, well, intimidate doesnt really work for a mage either.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 13:50 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 13:52 Post subject: |
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| remyleblau wrote: | | pwr wrote: | | Citrone wrote: | | the game is epic! no more to say. Starting area for magin is awesome. |
Starting area for warrior is about as boring as I've ever seen. Reminds me of the typical mmo, with stupid quests included. |
warrior is generally boring class to play in singleplayer rpg, what did u expect ; d |
I expected more, since it is Bioware =( Pika!
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 14:09 Post subject: |
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This is wonderfull game.. a must buy.. i just dont like the idea of paying most of the dlcs..
well i will be playing it slow so i can wait to get the dlcs into the game and enjoy the first two..
sadly i wont be able to support all the good games that are comming out due to other expenses i have but this one will be a definitly buy when price comes down..
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spajdr
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 14:18 Post subject: |
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Did i see it correctly that CE version (boxed) dont have points included to download wardens keep for free? i need digital deluxe version for that?
Jbeckman : ok, thanks for info, though i cant seems to find any mention in CE overview thats Wardens Keep is included (for free download).
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 14:32 Post subject: |
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I have the digital deluxe edition (preodered it), and it comes with two redeem codes to download some items AND warden's keep and stone prisoner, you do not need to pay anything extra. I also preordered with D2D, so it also comes with blood dragon armor. The blood dragon armor will also be available with Mass Effect 2 when it comes out.
Also for extra $5, it also came with prima game guide, 300 pages of walkthrough, and lots of info on secrets, bonus stuff and character creation info.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 14:33 Post subject: |
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Wardens Keep is CE only. I would suspect it's also in the boxed CE.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 14:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 14:53 Post subject: |
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So about "authorization required" DLCs, can anyone confirm it does work offline after obtaining authorization by entering legit redeem codes/purchasing for points?
Without logging in/internet connection? As far as i understand that's how devs say it works...
And i find it highly unlikely that there's a full-scale hardware-bound activation hidden there just for DLCs considering main game is so poorly protected...(though that'd be a smart move hehe).
So if it really does work offline we should presume there's a simple "DLC X authorized" flag stored somewhere.
From looking around files i guess a likely place would be Profile.dap
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 14:58 Post subject: |
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boxed version of CE does not come with warden's keep. It has been confirmed by my friends who bought it.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:01 Post subject: |
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Might be that file, as far as I know it's all server side though, log in and it'll be authorized, other profile logs in and it will return to be unathorized, if you go offline after being authorized withotu changing the profile it might also work due to perhaps that profile file being saved and containing that information.
(Might be possible to swap the file but a reader or viewer of what it contains would be safer, wouldn't exactly want Bioware to get ahold of it and banning you though it depends on what it contains, can't see much from a hex editor aside from some achievements and enabled DLC.)
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:07 Post subject: |
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there are some situations when i start the game and my account login process has not been completed yet and when i try to resume my save game, a message will pop up saying that i need to login with the account with the DLCs. so i am guessing that it does require you to login with the correct account with the DLCs.
btw i bought the 2 DLCs using the points purchase thing.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:12 Post subject: |
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| damador. wrote: | | EKTELESTES wrote: | Hey, how come...Eastore + Steam sell the Digital Deluxe for ~55 euros
and..direct to drive UK sell it only for ~40 euros ??? |
in Poland eastore sell digital deluxe for 169 PLN - thats is ~40 euro and yes you can chose which language you download - i got en_UK
and in uk there is digital deluxe version for 40 pounds not euro |
Omg...I think when I checked it this morning it was 35 pounds for DD and 30 pounds for the normal version...
Yeah, now I see 40 pounds for DD. So, that's almost 45 euros. Well still 10 euros cheaper than EA US and Steam ^^
I may try to get it from Poland though, nice find ^^
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:13 Post subject: |
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It will warn you if you load a game with previous DLC content being deactivated or missing, bit strange that it would also warn you about it even when you are not logged in, perhaps that profile file isn't a full version of the information available server-side about your character.
(Well of course there are other things such as your account information alongside it but surely the downloaded content should be playable offline once it's been authorized?)
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:19 Post subject: |
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ok i just did a test ,
tried logging out of my account in game and resumed my save game and it works,
no warning message or whatsoever.
so the DLCs do work offline.
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couleur
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JBeckman
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It might work with the .daprofile file but who knows what information it contains, wouldn't want to risk the account gettind disabled or something like that and it might not work even with that.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:55 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | It bothers me that you cant have a charisma based wizard like in D&D to get high enough persuasion skills needed for some quests.
I dont wanna lvl up cunning as I need the 2 major magic attributes for my mage. And, well, intimidate doesnt really work for a mage either. |
Nonsense. I barely had any points in Cunning and Strength on my mage, and they had Persuade and Intimidation prompts come up fairly regularly. I'm level 10 and not gimped my Willpower and Magic and still manage to have 16 strength and 14 cunning. . .enough for Coercion II. It really doesn't pay to stress so much about attributes. The game isn't going to cheat you if you put 3 points into each here and there over 24 levels. Plus:
 Spoiler: | You get free points by doing the Circle of the Magi uber quest. |
"Get the hell out of me" - [ex]girlfriend[s]
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:56 Post subject: |
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Well, someone who got the DLCs authorized could try to install the game on a second computer, keeping it disconnected from the internet. Then install the DLCs and copy over the profile.dap file to see if that would work.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 16:02 Post subject: |
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ruud28 upload (show) your DragonAge_1.log !!
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couleur
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 16:06 Post subject: |
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| WHEATTHlNS wrote: |
Nonsense. I barely had any points in Cunning and Strength on my mage, and they had Persuade and Intimidation prompts come up fairly regularly.
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Yeah, they may come up, but they wont always work.
| WHEATTHlNS wrote: | I'm level 10 and not gimped my Willpower and Magic and still manage to have 16 strength and 14 cunning. . .enough for Coercion II. It really doesn't pay to stress so much about attributes. The game isn't going to cheat you if you put 3 points into each here and there over 24 levels. Plus:
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Ah well, maybe I stress too much about those. Buts what can I say. I used to do so in every AD&D game by Bioware.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 16:10 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It might work with the .daprofile file but who knows what information it contains, wouldn't want to risk the account gettind disabled or something like that and it might not work even with that. |
Naturally it's possible it contains account info so could get account banned if widely shared. And likely no-one has _all_ DLCs authorized...
Btw looks it also contains stuff like achievements etc - not to nice to have someone else's profile in any case.
It's only to a possible direction in which we can try digging.
_That_ specific file doesn't seem encrypted so if guess is correct then by comparing a copy pre/past authorization suspect flag bytes can be easily identified even without proper editor.
| Quote: | | tried logging out of my account in game and resumed my save game and it works, |
Well, loading a save game isn't a too thorough test... Could you start a new game and see if you'd still get one of authorization-only items?
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