[XBOX360] IX 1.61?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 08:37    Post subject:
Have a feeling it could take 2-3 weeks Sad Unless they find an efficient workaround.
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Ace




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 09:30    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Have a feeling it could take 2-3 weeks Sad Unless they find an efficient workaround.

you talking about the new liteon or the old liteon?
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 10:06    Post subject:
Ace wrote:
deelix wrote:
Have a feeling it could take 2-3 weeks Sad Unless they find an efficient workaround.

you talking about the new liteon or the old liteon?


He's obviously talking about the first 2 revisions of the lite-on which are currently hackable. Not the new new version.
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Ace




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 10:26    Post subject:
guess time will tell, we still got the activate disc.
and something tells me we wont see a big gap between 1.61 and 1.7
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monk3ybusin3ss




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 11:26    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
Ace wrote:
deelix wrote:
Have a feeling it could take 2-3 weeks Sad Unless they find an efficient workaround.

you talking about the new liteon or the old liteon?


He's obviously talking about the first 2 revisions of the lite-on which are currently hackable. Not the new new version.


How do you check which revision you have.
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tiburs




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 20:46    Post subject:
Can we use patched wave3-->wave 2 with that one. Any workaround if not ? what would we do with our burnt dvds since march ?
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 20:59    Post subject:
chillseeker wrote:
How do you check which revision you have.

If you can't extract key = new revision.


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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 21:01    Post subject:
fishslice wrote:
wow this is harsh news Sad

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40:38] <acDC> Iriez any news on 83850c v2?
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[19:41:31] <Iriez> unfortunately
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[19:41:33] <Iriez> i have no updates
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[19:42:02] <Iriez> i can tell you guys this
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[19:42:06] <Iriez> new liteon = bad news.
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[19:42:24] <Iriez> and the shitty thing is
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[19:42:31] <Iriez> no one's going to believe us
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[19:42:37] <Iriez> because of all the crap that went on with the last release
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[19:42:51] <Iriez> there's no key output
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[19:42:53] <Iriez> at all.
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[19:42:55] <Iriez> zero.
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[19:42:59] <Iriez> completely removed.
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[19:43:07] <Iriez> so
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[19:43:07] <acDC> has it been decapped
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[19:43:12] <Iriez> oh of course
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[19:43:17] <Iriez> we've had the fw for well over a month
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[19:43:29] <Iriez> us getting the fw is no problem
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[19:43:31] <Iriez> but
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[19:43:34] <Iriez> for YOU guys
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[19:43:37] <Iriez> its a problem Smile
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[19:43:39] <Iriez> a big big one
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[19:44:26] <Iriez> so
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[19:44:29] <Iriez> basically
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[19:44:36] <Iriez> We might have to go to the full deal
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[19:44:42] <Iriez> installing Cygnos
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[19:44:45] <Iriez> doing full dumps
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[19:44:48] <Iriez> to retrieve dvd key
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[19:44:57] <Iriez> how bad is that shit?
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[19:47:52] <Iriez> MS/LiteOn has officially patched all the holes
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[19:47:58] <Iriez> and
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[19:48:03] <Iriez> had the last series not gone public
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[19:48:07] <Iriez> we might have prevented that
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[19:48:12] <Iriez> but now its REALLY closed.
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[19:48:22] <Iriez> so
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[19:48:29] <Iriez> we can write our own 'key engine'
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[19:48:31] <Iriez> so to speak
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[19:48:41] <Iriez> but we still need a way to retrieve orig key
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[19:48:50] <Iriez> which cannot be done anymore
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[19:49:00] <Iriez> anyways
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[19:49:04] <Iriez> everyones hard at work
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[19:49:10] <Iriez> trying to find a different way to get this sob key
Sounds useless for people with the other LiteOn drive, why don't they just release that.
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Snugglebunny




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 21:05    Post subject:
I'm still waiting for abgx to finally release their updated software..then I can go and update my firmware. When does abgx usually update themselves..I know, no one knows, but I would like to know how long it usually takes. It is pointless to update the firmware without a working abgx
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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 21:08    Post subject:
Ace wrote:
Rofl_Mao wrote:
Ace wrote:
impatiently waiting for liteon 1.61, probably next weekend or so.
but i got time so no worries there.


Waiting for the same firmware. But using 1.61 in combination with a proper scene release, can you be certain not to get banned from LIVE?

i don't think you can ever be certain not to get banned.
if M$ really bans ppl because they played a game because its not released yet.
and they can see this, because gamescore is always online updated.
So would be logical to assume you can get banned even with a stealth release and the proper fw


So playing online with a hacked 360 with proper firmware and stealth game will always put you at risk. Sounds more like Russian roulette. Then what are all the 1337 dudes doing here? Playing online with hacked or original 360's?


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Rofl_Mao




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 21:09    Post subject:
Ace wrote:
Rofl_Mao wrote:
Ace wrote:
impatiently waiting for liteon 1.61, probably next weekend or so.
but i got time so no worries there.


Waiting for the same firmware. But using 1.61 in combination with a proper scene release, can you be certain not to get banned from LIVE?

i don't think you can ever be certain not to get banned.
if M$ really bans ppl because they played a game because its not released yet.
and they can see this, because gamescore is always online updated.
So would be logical to assume you can get banned even with a stealth release and the proper fw


So playing online with a hacked 360 with proper firmware and stealth game will always put you at risk. Sounds more like Russian roulette. Then what are all the 1337 dudes doing here? Playing online with hacked or original 360's?


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Ace




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 22:01    Post subject:
well seems logical to me if achievements are timestamped on the xbox and or servers.
that they can ban you that way.
If this is really how people are getting banned i don't know.

so far i am not banned yet, don't play online a lot but the xbox is not connected to the net either.
I just connect sometimes to check downloadable content etc...
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armando99
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 22:11    Post subject:
i really dont care about the new liteons...just release 1.61 for older ones and work with the new ones later..
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Ace




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2009 22:36    Post subject:
i think if they had finished the fw for the older ones they would have released it.
don't see them keeping a finished fw from being released, because a fw from a newer model is not ready.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 09:38    Post subject:
armando99 wrote:
i really dont care about the new liteons...just release 1.61 for older ones and work with the new ones later..
The only reason they haven't done that yet is not to confuse people
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Areius




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 10:41    Post subject:
Ace wrote:
well seems logical to me if achievements are timestamped on the xbox and or servers.
that they can ban you that way.
If this is really how people are getting banned i don't know.

so far i am not banned yet, don't play online a lot but the xbox is not connected to the net either.
I just connect sometimes to check downloadable content etc...
Achievements are not stored with a date, there are a couple of reasons for that.
1) Some people don't have their xbox connected to power 24/7 (Including me), the data always resets back on power on to somewhere 2005.
2) Not enough space to store a date on it for xbox with a lot of games.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 10:46    Post subject:
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armando99
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 10:57    Post subject:
Ace wrote:
i think if they had finished the fw for the older ones they would have released it.
don't see them keeping a finished fw from being released, because a fw from a newer model is not ready.


i hope its true what ur saying
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 12:28    Post subject:
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The dates are stored now, they brought that with NXE.


stored?, where?, i f i play offline then get an achievment then all it says is Acquired
with no date, same shows on xbox.com?, same as before even before NXE came out.
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grapper




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 12:59    Post subject:
Think people. If you play something offline at a certain date they wont use that in order to ban you for playing early. The Xbox internal clock is a catastrophy since it resets back to 2005 when you unplug it from power because it lacks battery. The uncertainty of people having the wrong date on their xbox and banning because of that is not viable.

What is more dangerous is playing these games ahead of release online, that date is 100% actionable because it is recorded on MS own servers.Not like this is anything new...
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:19    Post subject:
yeah, *connected to live
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Areius




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 15:41    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Areius wrote:
Ace wrote:
well seems logical to me if achievements are timestamped on the xbox and or servers.
that they can ban you that way.
If this is really how people are getting banned i don't know.

so far i am not banned yet, don't play online a lot but the xbox is not connected to the net either.
I just connect sometimes to check downloadable content etc...
Achievements are not stored with a date, there are a couple of reasons for that.
1) Some people don't have their xbox connected to power 24/7 (Including me), the data always resets back on power on to somewhere 2005.
2) Not enough space to store a date on it for xbox with a lot of games.


The dates are stored now, they brought that with NXE.
Nope. You cannot trust the xbox date itself. Even if it was stored for online it would be that date and time so no, absolutely untrue.
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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 18:53    Post subject:
new bans being reported Smile


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jmdeking




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 18:57    Post subject:
I've been console banned, just now.
Time for a new console i guess.
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 19:05    Post subject:
jmdeking wrote:
I've been console banned, just now.
Time for a new console i guess.

Did the ban remove feature to install and play games from HDD ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 19:08    Post subject:
Munkeee wrote:
new bans being reported Smile



Still in the US or elsewhere?
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jmdeking




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 19:09    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
jmdeking wrote:
I've been console banned, just now.
Time for a new console i guess.

Did the ban remove feature to install and play games from HDD ?


No the already installed MW2 i can still play from the harddisk, i am kinda bummed cause i think playing MW2 online yesterday got me banned.
Anyone know what my chances are if i buy a new Xbox360 and get the unhackable liteon? what versions of the liteon are there anyway and wich one isnt hacked yet.


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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 19:09    Post subject:
ITRUK wrote:
Munkeee wrote:
new bans being reported Smile



Still in the US or elsewhere?


few Uk people I know have been hit , Still pondering over switching on my main xbox to have a look

jmdeking wrote:

Anyone know what my chances are if i buy a new Xbox360 and get the unhackable liteon? what versions of the liteon are there anyway and wich one isnt hacked yet.


2nd revision of the 8 serious and the 9 serious have no key read out's yet , so no way to flash


sabin1981 wrote:
but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.

Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin


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ITRUK




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 19:12    Post subject:
I've gone onto xbox.com and viewed my profile fine *touch wood* My gold has just ran out the other day too..
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Nov 2009 19:15    Post subject:
jmdeking wrote:
Glottis wrote:
jmdeking wrote:
I've been console banned, just now.
Time for a new console i guess.

Did the ban remove feature to install and play games from HDD ?


No the already installed MW2 i can still play from the harddisk, i am kinda bummed cause i think playing MW2 online yesterday got me banned.
Anyone know what my chances are if i buy a new Xbox360 and get the unhackable liteon? what versions of the liteon are there anyway and wich one isnt hacked yet.

What about installing games? Can you still do that on your banned console? Please share the info this is important Smile


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