Pro Evolution Soccer 2010
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PES 2010 needs...
Better Gameplay
49%
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More Teams & Leagues
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Better Graphic & Animation
36%
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 14:54    Post subject:
Tandstickor wrote:
ByteR4cer wrote:
hm i wouldnt call it input lag. its just like if you are running with the ball in reality you cant just change your direction when the ball is to far in front of you ... and thats what they try to copy.


Dude, I know the difference between inputlag and reaction time of the players. No, you can't pass directly when the ball is 4 meters away, but that has nothing to do with the delayed buttonlag. You can see it clearly when taking corners, when you change direction, it doesn't move instantly, but half a second later.

I have played the demo on the PS3 and it's not like this at all Confused

Is there any way to fix it for the PC? Or is it just because I'm using a PlayStation 2 controller through an adaptor? I should be getting the game through the post for the PS3 sometime this year (depending on how the strikes pan out) so it'll be interesting to compare the differences.... but until then I'd like to play and enjoy the game on the PC Sad
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madness




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 17:54    Post subject:
i don't notice any lag..it's the same as 09.
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bani789




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 17:57    Post subject:
madnessnaab wrote:
i don't notice any lag..it's the same as 09.


Same here although I haven't played the 2009 one. Been using the Xbox360 controller playing on the PC and can't say I noticed input lag, even if there may be some. But I'm usually not picky about things like that.
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Teniak




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 20:47    Post subject:
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pablocoo




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 20:51    Post subject:
New crack needed?
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Citrone




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 20:58    Post subject:
Seems Reloaded version was deleted from mininova. Anyone know why?


~ Thus spoke Citrone ~
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pablocoo




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 21:08    Post subject:
No one cares about mininova.
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thenormal02




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 21:10    Post subject:
can you play the reloaded version online?
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emppapy




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 21:13    Post subject:
Does anyone know how to change chants in game ? They're terrible !
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MannyK




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 21:14    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
MannyK wrote:
Teniak wrote:





edit : spec : 190.89 Gtx260


i don't have it here Sad

can't i force it?


Put compatibility mode (ie. XP SP2) to settings.exe and it will work.


didn't worked Sad
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Teniak




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 21:18    Post subject:
The Install of the patch is very long ( it's normal) just wait.
3 new online mode : Légends, community & Competition

Well , reloaded 1.0 crack works with 1.1 exe. (pending a new cracked *.exe)

edit : lol @ quoting ... Laughing
@emppapy > +1


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emppapy




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2009 21:28    Post subject:
Well I guess there's no point applying the patch with the rld release if it only addresses online matters.
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Citrone




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 08:23    Post subject:
pablocoo and you care about what? mind to answer me?


~ Thus spoke Citrone ~
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 08:24    Post subject:
Citrone wrote:
pablocoo and you care about what? mind to answer me?

We care what happens in the scene, dude, not your torrent sites. Laughing
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Citrone




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 08:36    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Citrone wrote:
pablocoo and you care about what? mind to answer me?

We care what happens in the scene, dude, not your torrent sites. Laughing


know this. Just thought mininova is well know site in the scene. Cheers.
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 08:38    Post subject:
Well, the scene has nothing to do with torrents. Nothing. In fact, the sceners/groups hate that kind of ridiculous release spreading for every nub with utorrent.
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Sexie




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 10:51    Post subject:
Citrone wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Citrone wrote:
pablocoo and you care about what? mind to answer me?

We care what happens in the scene, dude, not your torrent sites. Laughing


know this. Just thought mininova is well know site in the scene. Cheers.


LoLed
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dickybob26
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 14:19    Post subject:
you still need a valid serial key to play online...., or can you use hamachi now after patching, even if you recrack with old patch and login it says you're not using the most up to date version so just wait for a crack...
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Citrone




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 15:10    Post subject:
Sexie wrote:
Citrone wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:

We care what happens in the scene, dude, not your torrent sites. Laughing


know this. Just thought mininova is well know site in the scene. Cheers.


LoLed


yeah LoLed too Razz
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 15:17    Post subject:
Played 5 games and my opinions of this game:

- AI is still horrible. Wingers don't sprint when your playmaker have the ball. Defenders are like chickens without head.

- Commentary is very retarded. You can walk on the opposit team's goal line and they will probalby say nothing but when you try to shoot from 30 meters they yell "is it a goal?!!" "Chance!!!". Commentary sound scripts are just crap

- Player animations aren't realistic in any way. Players looks like moving robots on the ice.

- Positive thing is that game includes a lot of club and international teams.

- Menu is cool.

- Tactics settings and everything around it is good enough for this kind of game.

- The game also includes at least 2 horrible mistakes: 1. Jarque is still in Espanyol's squard? (he died last summer), Gudjonssen is still in Barcelona. Rolling Eyes


I would give 6/10 with one line comment: "Still waiting for good football game on PC." Neutral


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Srdj




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:31    Post subject:
My Review:

Response time:
I completely understand and support Konami in implementing this, and i think it is a good idea but i still think it needs to be perfected. Yes when the ball is away from players foot and you press the pass button, it takes a second before he actually kicks the ball, but what bothers me is that the players do it too casually and too slow. I can understand if there is no pressure from the opponent, but when you are under pressure, if you try to pass and the ball is away from the foot, it still plays it casually and not quickly enough. It's so annoying.

Chants:
The worst chants by far, ever. I just don't get it, you can barely hear the chants and when you do, they suck. I guess a nice chants patch should fix that, but Konami should've done better.

Difficulty:
Professional:
This level is just utter stupid. The AI will pass the ball in their zone and midfield like crazy, like pinball, very precise, but as soon as they come to the attacking zone they mess up and lose the ball. It's just stupid. I can hold them shot less on this level easy, its pathetic, what kind of professional level is that.

Superstar:
This difficulty could've been implemented better as well. The AI, again, passes the ball with such precision that it's just ridiculous. In addition, I still haven't really figured out a nice way to use the various player skills to actually be useful in passing an AI opponent.

Pros:
- Graphics are good.
- animations are better than last years
- commentary is almost the same as last years, not bad
- better than fifa 10 PC for sure
- again i'm still trying to get used to the game play here, it plays good, minus the points mentioned above.


So far, i still like the 2009 game better on PC, but i'm trying to move on to this.
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shadak




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:40    Post subject:
Kinda agree with the above plus some other things I noticed.

I hate what they did to ML (but thats just me i guess), I loved playing with crap players and developing my team no matter which I picked... Plus you were in the lower league first and had to make your way up.

I played about 5 matches in ML and there was 0 fouls. Never seen something like that in previous versions.

The shooting feels really bad this year. And almost all the goals are either headers or rebounds.

Other weird lookin stuff from last year is still there including ridiculous running animations. It might look funny but thats not really what I want from a footy game.

Overall Im glad I can try it for free first...
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dickybob26
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 20:49    Post subject:
I agree on the chants, its so repative and not even making sense, all ive heard them shout is liverpool , but the game play is great i think , the ball moves freely and deflects alot of players causing it to move in diferent paths, already completed the champions league , prefer this over fifa this year.
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mst73




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 06:21    Post subject:
Crap players of ML still exists, when you select the team you have a change to select the original team or the crap players. Smile

shadak wrote:
Kinda agree with the above plus some other things I noticed.

I hate what they did to ML (but thats just me i guess), I loved playing with crap players and developing my team no matter which I picked... Plus you were in the lower league first and had to make your way up.
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shadak




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 09:51    Post subject:
mst73 wrote:
Crap players of ML still exists, when you select the team you have a change to select the original team or the crap players. Smile

shadak wrote:
Kinda agree with the above plus some other things I noticed.

I hate what they did to ML (but thats just me i guess), I loved playing with crap players and developing my team no matter which I picked... Plus you were in the lower league first and had to make your way up.
...


lol I tried to find it so hard. Will take a look again Smile
But I dont like the structure anyway. Before you started with worse teams in a lower league. Even tho I can change the teams theres still only 1 lvl of leagues afaik.
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madness




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 10:12    Post subject:
You have to press that yellow Y button in team selection menu Very Happy what ever it is on your keyboard. it says so on the lower part of the screen

And in the League Structure you can put your team where you want, in divison 2 also
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shadak




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 14:10    Post subject:
madnessnaab wrote:
You have to press that yellow Y button in team selection menu Very Happy what ever it is on your keyboard. it says so on the lower part of the screen

And in the League Structure you can put your team where you want, in divison 2 also


Cheers, will check it out Smile
Although I doubt it will change my mind overall. Oh well..
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 14:44    Post subject:
For an unknown strange unconditional reflex I pressed the Uninstall button.

It's not a mental protest act, it's just the consequence of the fact that I can't play the same game for 10 years. And it doesn't even matter if the game is good, bad or so so (in this case, it's the third one): it's time to change one time for all.
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emppapy




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 14:56    Post subject:
They won't they are too lazy.
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2009 13:51    Post subject:
Played it on the PS3 briefly... I won't go as far as to say it was much better than my experience with the PC version but almost straight away I could feel a tangible difference and got into it - rather than drifting away from it. There's obviously something 'off' with the PC version - or more likely, in terms of optimisation for different hardware/setups like mine.

Superficially they look the same - apart from PC is higher resolution and better looking - but the response times on the PC (even on the lowest graphical settings) don't compare and it makes a big difference I think.

I suppose if you have it working on your setup it doesn't matter - but there might be people out there with it working superficially but not optimally (as was my case) and that will be affecting their opinion of the game. Try the demo on PSN/XBL if you haven't - as it will give you a better idea of how it's supposed to control.

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Well I've just tried it on the PS3. Let me just preface this by saying it's the same old (next-gen) shit with bad goalkeeping, defending, animations and so on - but for the first time in a long time they've seemingly got the controls balanced so it actually feels nice to control. Not great by any means, but I can finally see myself investing time in PES on a next-gen console, and that's a start... if a little too late.

If you're like me and have been waiting for a PES that had the 'feel' of the old PES games on the next-gen then this is the closest it has gotten. Otherwise it's basically the same old shit... but for me I am moderately happy.

I will spend more time with this than FIFA, even though FIFA is going in the right direction whilst PES is still languishing behind.


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