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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 15:30 Post subject: |
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Glottis wrote: | The game just appeared on Steam for preordering and it's already in #5 top sold games, so much of that boycott
| It's not that, like I said a lot of people are not informed and probably don't know anything about it, others probably heard about it but are not familiar with the term 'dedicated servers' aka kids.
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Jundy
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 16:00 Post subject: |
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Glottis wrote: |
Not to mention IWNET could turn into a huge success and all this whining is for nothing. |
wait and c
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 20:23 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 20:31 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 20:51 Post subject: |
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Everyone here has a valid point for not buying the game due to it not having dedicated servers. I myself ordered Assassins Creed 2 instead of this (hey, at least I got an action figure there) and I'll pick this up when it's in the bargain bin.
And seriously, they want 60€ for the motherfucker?!?
Ahhh....that's 10€ away from some PoS console game.
So if people who decide not to buy the game for their own resons are considered drama queens, then go ahead and call me one, cause I'd rather be a drama queen than a brainless drone any day of the week.
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 20:55 Post subject: |
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Prefetian wrote: | Everyone here has a valid point for not buying the game due to it not having dedicated servers. I myself ordered Assassins Creed 2 instead of this (hey, at least I got an action figure there) and I'll pick this up when it's in the bargain bin.
And seriously, they want 60€ for the motherfucker?!?
Ahhh....that's 10€ away from some PoS console game.
So if people who decide not to buy the game for their own resons are considered drama queens, then go ahead and call me one, cause I'd rather be a drama queen than a brainless drone any day of the week. |
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 20:57 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 21:10 Post subject: |
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IWNet does not host games.. This straight from IW_Scriptacus:
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Quote: | I've been trying to determine if these are all listen servers run locally by one client or hosted on IW.Net. If the host drops, does the game end? Does IW.Net "test" the host to see if they have adequate system and/or bandwidth to handle the load? If peer-to-peer, is there some type of "load distribution" or is everything in the hands of the "host"? Thanks in advance if you can answer these questions. |
Answer:
Quote: | Locally hosted, chosen by IWNet based on a number of criteria (ping, bandwidth, CPU, etc...) The game includes host migration for cases when the host leaves. |
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 21:32 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 01:05 Post subject: |
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As many have stated, hardcore gamers are no longer the focus. Gaming has become mainstream and as much as I hate to admit this was bound to happen. The mainstream doesn't want to worry about system requirements, about making the smart choice. They want simplicity. This obviously means they'll pay way more than they should but that is just how the market works. This has happen in other markets and has now reached the gaming market. The golden days of fast gaming innovation are over and features are being cut because they know they can sell the same with less.
But regarding COW MW2 dedicated server and modding being left out , what really pisses me off is knowing that they could have combined their IWNet matchmaking with dedicated servers and modding the way games like Americas Army do and take advantage of that having higher profits.
They could for instance have different partners that would rent the community dedicated servers. They could promote modding and later on sell a special edition with the best COD mods. So many things they could do.
For $60 I can't help but wait for the game to come out and see how things go because as much as COD MW 2 may be, it is not the only game in town.
I think my money will go for Dragon Age. Bioware at least has made an effort of continuing to deliver top game experiences on the PC.
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 03:22 Post subject: |
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VGAdeadcafe wrote: | EwarWoo1 wrote: | Prefetian wrote: | hey, at least I got an action figure there |
Cooooool, bet you can't wait to get it so you can play dollies  |
He can have Altair fuck his Barbie ! |
Up the butt 
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 10:57 Post subject: |
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Quote: | Locally hosted, chosen by IWNet based on a number of criteria (ping, bandwidth, CPU, etc...) The game includes host migration for cases when the host leaves. |
Great...now everyone has to wait few seconds every few minutes to continue playing when host decides to ragequit. Bravo IW! I wasn't ok when they announced there won't be dedicated servers, but I at least hoped they would host them themselves or authorize some hosting companies to be able to host them. But this? Ah at least I save my money...
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 11:33 Post subject: |
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tolanri wrote: | Quote: | Locally hosted, chosen by IWNet based on a number of criteria (ping, bandwidth, CPU, etc...) The game includes host migration for cases when the host leaves. |
Great...now everyone has to wait few seconds every few minutes to continue playing when host decides to ragequit. Bravo IW! I wasn't ok when they announced there won't be dedicated servers, but I at least hoped they would host them themselves or authorize some hosting companies to be able to host them. But this? Ah at least I save my money... |
Host migration is kinda a big deal, because majority multiplayer games using locally hosted games don't have that, so once the host leaves everyone is fucked for good 
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 11:45 Post subject: |
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this is nice that it will use steamworks and Achievements
but they need to do more then that to make me buy it-
fixing the multiplayer, and Price.
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 12:14 Post subject: |
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not just a pause, but your ping might go from decent to utter shit... it creates an utterly inconsistant gaming experience... you might join a game, then get kicked 5 minutes later, because your ping is now 5 too high for the in-game pairing threshold, when the host switches
btw i also liked what IW said about the new system removing the barriers of entry for players who dont know how to maintain a dedicated server. haw haw 
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Jundy
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 16:53 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 17:25 Post subject: |
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It's his brain that is full of snot, not his nose. 
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 17:30 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 21:18 Post subject: |
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tainted4ever wrote: | madmax17 wrote: | Glottis wrote: | The game just appeared on Steam for preordering and it's already in #5 top sold games, so much of that boycott
| It's not that, like I said a lot of people are not informed and probably don't know anything about it, others probably heard about it but are not familiar with the term 'dedicated servers' aka kids. | Or maybe we just don't care that there are no dedicated servers. |
So wait, let me get this straight.
You're perfectly happy with paying 60€, being forced to run it through steam and then get inferior online-gameplay?
Not only that but you'll probably be charged 5-10€ for the upcoming DLC's with like 3 maps and not being able to mod the game at all?
So if you're not bothered by all those things then high five, cause I just think I found waldo! \o/
Post Scriptum
Btw, I'm only joking since I've got friends who will be buying the game none the less (with or without the dedicated servers). It's just that it boggles the mind why people would go ahead and pay more for less, I personally can't understand it but meh, to eache his own.
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Posted: Sat, 24th Oct 2009 21:27 Post subject: |
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Yeah obviously ditching dedicated servers are the future, I mean what's the point to have fair play for everyone? It's not like consoles should have dedicated servers either.. Matchmaking and dedicated servers can never exist together!!
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