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ixigia
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 13:26    Post subject:
lhzr, I nominate you for the best post of 2009, hands down. Wink
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 13:27    Post subject:
Forums are made for bitching. Hasn't that always been the case?
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lhzr




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 13:27    Post subject:
@madmax: you must be confusing me with animalmother. i don't care for nietzsche and i don't see why posting nietzsche quotes would be the only alternative to posting the same crap over and over forever.

@m3th0d2008: i'd like this forum to be enjoyable rather than idiotic. if you consider that as a girly trait, then you're racist against men (in before people telling me that men are not a race).

@cedge: well, i usually like it here, but the games arena is just awful Sad and i dunno about other places.. are there even forums without crap outthere? i don't trust the internet anymore Surprised

@mister_s: bitching gets unfunny after a while

@ixigia: oh, you.. Embarassed .. (no homo)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 13:31    Post subject:
I find it funny how the little girls that keep whining about other people whining ... are still here, on the forum, spamming the threads with MORE whining about others Laughing Hypocrite much?

"Waaah, it's a cesspool!"

Leave then? I dunno about you, but I don't wallow in cesspools. England is a cesspool, that's why I left Wink
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 13:41    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I find it funny how the little girls that keep whining about other people whining ... are still here, on the forum, spamming the threads with MORE whining about others Laughing Hypocrite much?


This is what's bothering me the most. In my oponion it's trolling, hidden in the shadows.


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Stinky244




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 13:48    Post subject:
Jesus the last 3 pages has all been about ranting. Maybe give some information on this topic too. Or if you dont have any then please just dont post. This is gettin ridiculous. I know forums are made for people to express their feelings but comon. The same people over and over...
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jinx112




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 13:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I find it funny how the little girls that keep whining about other people whining ... are still here, on the forum, spamming the threads with MORE whining about others Laughing Hypocrite much?

"Waaah, it's a cesspool!"

Leave then? I dunno about you, but I don't wallow in cesspools. England is a cesspool, that's why I left Wink


I'm just wondering, why the fuck are you still here then?
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Taffelost




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 14:03    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I find it funny how the little girls that keep whining about other people whining ... are still here, on the forum, spamming the threads with MORE whining about others Laughing Hypocrite much?


This is what's bothering me the most. In my oponion it's trolling, hidden in the shadows.

I don't agree. Sometimes you have to challenge your own principles for the sake of good. What you are describing is a paradox. Because someone think there's whining they shouldn't be able to voice their concern because it could be conceived as whining. That would effectively lead to people with lhzr's opinions would never be heard. It's like saying UK/US should never have waged war on Nazi-Germany because ultimately they prefer peace.

I wholeheartedly agree with lhzr. Most of the "whining" on nforce is on autopilot, it's predictable and it's not even remotely intelligent. I said most of it.
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zipfero




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 14:26    Post subject:
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 14:37    Post subject:
Taffelost wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I find it funny how the little girls that keep whining about other people whining ... are still here, on the forum, spamming the threads with MORE whining about others Laughing Hypocrite much?


This is what's bothering me the most. In my oponion it's trolling, hidden in the shadows.

I don't agree. Sometimes you have to challenge your own principles for the sake of good. What you are describing is a paradox. Because someone think there's whining they shouldn't be able to voice their concern because it could be conceived as whining. That would effectively lead to people with lhzr's opinions would never be heard. It's like saying UK/US should never have waged war on Nazi-Germany because ultimately they prefer peace.

I wholeheartedly agree with lhzr. Most of the "whining" on nforce is on autopilot, it's predictable and it's not even remotely intelligent. I said most of it.
Whining about other people whining is definitely on autopilot here.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 14:39    Post subject:
I think I finally drowned in tears.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 15:16    Post subject:
Is this really what this thread has turned into?

Jesus christ get back on topic already. If you guys don't like how their doing something, if you don't like what the game is about or the "features" it has or hasn't, THEN DONT BUY IT! Even better, just forget about it's existance!

BACK on topic.

I was thinking abou this character storage and am curious how the progression and character storage is. I mean is it like Diablo where you play and just leave off then continue where you left off? Beat it, you get a higher difficulty harder play through again?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 15:18    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:

I was thinking abou this character storage and am curious how the progression and character storage is. I mean is it like Diablo where you play and just leave off then continue where you left off? Beat it, you get a higher difficulty harder play through again?


You get "New Game Plus" when you beat it, mate. Get to keep your character, all items, all stats, and can progress to the next difficulty level.
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Cedge




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 15:18    Post subject:
Taffelost wrote:
Most of the "whining" on nforce is on autopilot, it's predictable and it's not even remotely intelligent. I said most of it.


Yup. For laughs, I think I might draw up a go-to list of copypasta for use on this subforum, of the most overused "autopilot" bitching, just to save people the trouble of ever having to type out the same "I'm going to stick it to the devs by pirating this because of whatever reason" drivel.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 15:21    Post subject:
Got already 3 mates for COOP, now where the f*** is the game? Smile)
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mArkAntonioo




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 15:23    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
Got already 3 mates for COOP, now where the f*** is the game? Smile)
It's not out yet.
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 15:40    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
@madmax: you must be confusing me with animalmother. i don't care for nietzsche and i don't see why posting nietzsche quotes would be the only alternative to posting the same crap over and over forever.

@m3th0d2008: i'd like this forum to be enjoyable rather than idiotic. if you consider that as a girly trait, then you're racist against men (in before people telling me that men are not a race).

@cedge: well, i usually like it here, but the games arena is just awful Sad and i dunno about other places.. are there even forums without crap outthere? i don't trust the internet anymore Surprised

@mister_s: bitching gets unfunny after a while

@ixigia: oh, you.. Embarassed .. (no homo)

I used to write good posts, I used to take my time to make a proper argument and have a well founded opinion, I used to enjoy having discussions about the interesting going on's in the games industry, all on nforce.

But something changed, suddenly peoples attention span got shorter and shorter.
And it wasn't long before you found yourself discussing something or explaining something in great detail, when someone would come along in a few posts after "How I do xx" clearly showing that all that time and effort you spent with your posts, taking care to go in depth with the subject was all for nothing.
When the page changed it was all entirely forgotten.

Soon 90% of the users acted this way and there was no more inclination to spend as much time trying to improve the way people act, as whats the point?

So now more harsh and argueably a lot less refined methods are put in use; banhammer - apropos please get back on topic.
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lhzr




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 15:57    Post subject:
i agree, seeing how threads end up buried in clone posts is discouraging. there are still ok game related threads, but the most popular ones always are generally uncool. skimming over these works well, though, since it's usually easy to tell at a glance whether you're looking at 'one of those' posts or not Smile


on topic: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/10/20/the-rps-verdict-borderlands
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Alec: There is a slight afterthought vibe to the co-op. It’s essentially functional, but even down to things like how quests are shared (i.e. it doesn’t signify if any players have any quests in common, and there’s no way to give any to others apart from the host choosing a specific mission and thus forcing its objectives into the interface of others – who, while they’ll get XP, won’t receive any of the loot rewards once it’s completed)


not sure whether this means that playing through the story in coop will force the same player to always have to host, in order to not replay already done quests.. and not getting any loot after taking part in a quest is stupid.

the game sounds mostly good, except for the above
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:01    Post subject:
Jim: Who wants to try to define the game in a single sentence then, eh?
Kieron: Hellgate in a desert, but not shit.

Laughing
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:01    Post subject:
Give the small number of bugs and gameplay elements that seem a little... how shall we say? "off"? I predict an upcoming patch. If Gearbox are marketing this as "Diablo, FPS style!" then it stands to reason a lot of people are going to be less than thrilled at not getting the share of loot from quests - and that should, hopefully, give Gearbox some incentive to fix that.

Still, even given the bug and glitch reports so far - the overwhelming reaction to the game is positive, pretty much scoring solid 8 and 9s all across the board.

That's impressive! Can't wait to play it! ^_^
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evilmonkey




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:03    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Jim: Who wants to try to define the game in a single sentence then, eh?


Stylised Fallout 3, worth a play but nothing special.

theres my sentance
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:04    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
i agree, seeing how threads end up buried in clone posts is discouraging. there are still ok game related threads, but the most popular ones always are generally uncool. skimming over these works well, though, since it's usually easy to tell at a glance whether you're looking at 'one of those' posts or not Smile


on topic: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/10/20/the-rps-verdict-borderlands
Quote:
Alec: There is a slight afterthought vibe to the co-op. It’s essentially functional, but even down to things like how quests are shared (i.e. it doesn’t signify if any players have any quests in common, and there’s no way to give any to others apart from the host choosing a specific mission and thus forcing its objectives into the interface of others – who, while they’ll get XP, won’t receive any of the loot rewards once it’s completed)


not sure whether this means that playing through the story in coop will force the same player to always have to host, in order to not replay already done quests.. and not getting any loot after taking part in a quest is stupid.

the game sounds mostly good, except for the above


does sound rather....redundant (right word) or at least not well thought out. Who knows, a game comes out, we play it, we don't like things, we post about it in their forums, they have the chance to change things around, that's what I love about PC gaming, the mere amount of patching that can be done to alter gameplay/how things are done.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:07    Post subject:
I hope it's modable, maybe someone can make it more rpg-ish.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:09    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
I hope it's modable, maybe someone can make it more rpg-ish.


This! Maaaaan, I truly truly hope gbx open this game for modding. I doubt they will though, given the drop-in, drop-out nature of using the same character on and offline Sad
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lhzr




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:11    Post subject:
aye, if they patch some of the stuff it could become very good (plus mods it could be awesome). and the dlc looks sweet (zombies are never a bad thing Very Happy)

@evilmonkey: yeah, f3 was nothing special, but this has coop so it's gonna be much longer (hopefully) before it starts getting boring
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:12    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
aye, if they patch some of the stuff it could become very good. and the dlc looks sweet (zombies are never a bad thing Very Happy)


Strangely enough, I'm actually rather happy about the DLC - it sounds great Very Happy
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Kyorisu




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:29    Post subject:
evilmonkey wrote:
Stylised Fallout 3, worth a play but nothing special.

theres my sentance


But F3 is a horrible FPS and it's not the only game set in a royally fucked setting. I'm not sure what the comparison should be but F3 isn't it.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:37    Post subject:
Why does the Siren have wings of fire, she can fly or something?
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inz




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 16:42    Post subject:
That's the Phoenix talent, last in the Elemental tree.
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tombata
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 17:10    Post subject:
That seems like a really boring game. I hope it turns out to be good Surprised
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