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| Neon25 wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIVDbJal52U
It's still processing, so the quality sucks a bit, but... 
Yes, I was reeaaally bored. |
 great job. |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009 00:43 Post subject: |
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@Neon25: Hahaha Nicely done 
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009 14:56 Post subject: ... |
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Do you play as the young Sam Fisher or some new guy?
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009 15:06 Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Der_Schwed wrote: | | Do you play as the young Sam Fisher or some new guy? |
You play as Dan Fisher. Sam's brother. You set out to find your kidnapped brother and avenge her daughter's killer.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009 15:34 Post subject: Re: ... |
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| difm wrote: | | You set out to find your kidnapped brother and avenge her daughter's killer. |
Sam had a sex change? |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2009 16:41 Post subject: Re: ... |
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Well, first I had some hopes, but now the developer on official forums completely made my mind about buying this abomination.
This is, sadly, the first Splinter Cell game I will not buy. Hell, I might download 10 copies of it just for the kicks.
The post below was posted by Ubi developer. People in the thread were wondering if you could still KO people or just kill them.
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| Quote: | In the story of Conviction Sam doesn't care about individual enemies, whether they live or die, he just wants answers to his questions. He's focused, driven and almost completely obsessed by this. In previous Splinter Cell games Sam may not have killed people for a variety of reasons (some of which you may have listed) but now he doesn't care. He's not of the same character that you saw in previous games. Hence there's no real care (or distinction, if you will) between knocking out an enemy or killing an enemy with hand to hand combat - they're just out of the way, the way Sam wants, and he can then move on.
I'm sure you'll happily argue this and state that Splinter Cell is dead for you but unfortunately, for your sake, this is the way it is.
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This is beyond ridicule now.
And this is probably the best retort to the very same post mentioned above:
| Quote: | I think the more correct thing to say is that you don't care. You've intentionally destroyed a respectable, admirable, and heroic character trait to give Sam that "ripped jeans" appeal to a more mainstream audience.
I'm going to pick up my copy of Borderlands today, and while I'm there I'm going to withdraw my sixty bucks from ConViction. Whatever this mess is, it's not worth a dime of my money.
Thanks for all the great memories with Chaos Theory, but the glory days of Splinter Cell are clearly over and at this point you're just trying to cash in on it.
EDIT: And speaking of conflicting information, here's a perfect example:
"Hey, suits, let's title this game ConViction. It's Sam's personal journey that highlights his beliefs and morals. Cool, huh?"
"Very cool! Now for gameplay let's make him more brutal than ever and go on killing sprees!!! " |
R.I.P Samuel Fisher . 
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 20:59 Post subject: |
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I don't see the difference between this Sam and a Nazi, well maybe a Nazi cares more about people, Jesus they kill his daughter and now the whole world has to die, that's some pathetic writing, 80's movies style.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:02 Post subject: |
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In before some l[h]zr calls you a whiner, because you care for a series of games and/or a character you've grown to love in it. 
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:11 Post subject: |
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People are actually showing remorse now. Many are saying "if only I had not complained about hobo Sam, at least I would've gotten a stealth game"
Ironically, the hobo Sam version is more Splinter Cellish than this crap.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:21 Post subject: |
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A shame they didn't continue with the original idea, sounds good compared to this crap.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:34 Post subject: |
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So basically people are complaining that they are not getting the same character they've known and loved? They are complaining that the narrative thread of Sam Fisher has been altered to show some - shocks and gasps - character growth?
Not a single person here has actually played the game, and so the only ones who truly appreciate the context of the developers quote are the actual developers.
I love how really you can parse these character complaints down to "Sure he was a killer before. . .but he was a killer with a conscience!"
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:36 Post subject: |
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LOL "character growth", you might want to read what that actually means before using it, eh?
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:38 Post subject: |
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| WHEATTHlNS wrote: | So basically people are complaining that they are not getting the same character they've known and loved? They are complaining that the narrative thread of Sam Fisher has been altered to show some - shocks and gasps - character growth?
Not a single person here has actually played the game, and so the only ones who truly appreciate the context of the developers quote are the actual developers.
I love how really you can parse these character complaints down to "Sure he was a killer before. . .but he was a killer with a conscience!" |
Get educated before posting bitch. |
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| WHEATTHlNS wrote: | | So basically people are complaining that they are not getting the same character they've known and loved? They are complaining that the narrative thread of Sam Fisher has been altered to show some - shocks and gasps - character growth? |
Yes, he has shown the character growth similar to Arnie.
BLAARGH THEY KILLED ME DAUGHTERS, HULK ANGRY, HULK SMASH PEOPLE
| Quote: | | I love how really you can parse these character complaints down to "Sure he was a killer before. . .but he was a killer with a conscience!" |
You had to kill around 6 people in all 4 games.
1 in Splinter Cell, 1 in PT, 2 in CT, 2 in DA.
He never was a killer. He's not suicidal maniac that goes around killing people because his daughter has been killed in a CAR ACCIDENT.
Yes, I'm sure that after 2 years of DA storyline Sam went like "OMGZ CONSPIRACY, GOVERNMENT KILLED ME DAUGHTER, I MUST KILL EVERY CRIMINAL IN THE WORLD USING BRUTAL INTERROGATIONS IN 24 HOURS, SHIT'S GOIN OFF IN THE NEXT HOUR, CHLOE GIVE ME RADAR COVERAGE"
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:40 Post subject: |
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Well considering what they did to the series, Sam's personal quest for vengeance is not so surprising after all.
After seeing so many cheesy moovies and stuff with clichรฉ storylines, this comes as no surprise. Especially after Double Agent (it was the only SC game I regret buying).
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By the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_season_2
Replace "Los Angeles" with "Washington D.C" and "nuclear bomb" with "EMP bomb" and you have a game scenario for Conviction. No shit.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 21:52 Post subject: |
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So that's why it sounded so familiar...
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Oct 2009 22:06 Post subject: |
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Character growth would be having the character shed the standard and usual tropes that create a basic game starring said character. The same old story is apperantly what some of you want. But sure, pretend the opposing voice doesn't know what they're talking about - "LOL" (not really, just adding that on there since it seems some of you use it in place of an actual reasoned retort).
| Quote: | | He never was a killer. |
In your game perhaps.
| Quote: | | He's not suicidal maniac that goes around killing people because his daughter has been killed in a CAR ACCIDENT. |
Again youre making a criticism on storylines points that you can't possibly have any access to. And if you do, please share them with the rest of the internet so we can all be satisfied that yes "this story/character development is crap. . ."
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