Germans are dumping Killergames
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 18:04    Post subject:
Most gamers in germany are importing their games anyway. There's less money made in germany with games than you think.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 18:30    Post subject:
only in germany :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 18:34    Post subject: ...
Glottis wrote:
Censorship in Germany actually makes sense when you think about it. They are against violence but are fine with nudity and swearing.

Now if you look at USA censorship, they show violence on national TV but there can be no nudity or bad language. They are basically saying that showing a naked titty or swearing is worse than showing humans kill other humans, torture and so on. Messed up priorities.


Good point. Not sure if anyone's seen the movie about that porn guy who made Hustler, can't remember his name, with Woody Harrelsson starring as him. He makes the same point. America in the 70's thought sex was obscene but extreme violence OK. I certainly don't agree with that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 18:35    Post subject:
well thank the globalisation that you can shop outlandish
but ehh question:
your supreme court can overrule government's decisions if i am right
why not start a trial versus this witch hunt?


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 19:11    Post subject:
LoL, now those retards are employ an security service for the event because they're afraid of demonstrants.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 19:58    Post subject:
my opinion as a german is... damn are these guys thinking that i start an amok run when i play "Killergames" ... that´s so retarded... it´s more like a valve... playing Killergames is diverting me from running Amok^^ only joking.... Wink
but i have the feeling that german is becoming more racist again since longer... that´s scary... but here were i live people are more left oriented... my father is for example working for and with the "Links Partei"germans biggest left oriented party ... but myself has no hope in politics so i don´t care....
and for the people here in germany it´s one more reason to copy games because they can only buy cutted versions of the "more" brutal games... ...


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 20:17    Post subject:
Yeah, censored games really do suck. :/

In Poland nobody gives two fucks about PEGI or ESRB. There is no law in Poland telling that you HAVE to be over 7/12/16/18 to buy certain games. I remember I bought FEAR when I was like 13, the cashier at the shop didn't give a fuck. Laughing

I heard in some countries cashiers actually require you to have an ID with you proving your age? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 20:29    Post subject:
yes in germany if a game is marked "above 18" you have to show your id or passport somthing showing your age to buy sometimes.. or if you look young ... same with movies.
but tv is becoming better^^... i saw once a real hardcore scene in" free"(fu the gez") television late in the evening... not long ago... 20 years ago the guy responsible for it would loose his job or even bader


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 20:40    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
Seeing as he's German he's most like the only one who _can_ make that reference without being called names.
I'm not saying it's a good reference but it's not that far fetched.
Both occurences were meant to keep "dangerous" media from the people.
Blaming videogames as the sole reason is stupid beyond anything.
Just take a look at the name "Killergames" that our nice politicians have given to, well, most FPSs that is.
It's time they realise that censorship never helped anybody. But censoring is the only thing they can think of.
What does that say about politicans when the only thing they can imagine to solve a problem is banning something?
Oops, off topic.
It's possible those parents just use it as a coping mechanism but, seriously? Every objective spectator to this must see that it's just wrong in every aspect.


If those parents were doing well the job of being parents, that event would not happen. They are simply looking for a scapegoat not to blame themselfs. But they know, yes they know deep in their hearts who is guilty.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 20:53    Post subject:
LuckyStrike wrote:
Reklis wrote:
Seeing as he's German he's most like the only one who _can_ make that reference without being called names.
I'm not saying it's a good reference but it's not that far fetched.
Both occurences were meant to keep "dangerous" media from the people.
Blaming videogames as the sole reason is stupid beyond anything.
Just take a look at the name "Killergames" that our nice politicians have given to, well, most FPSs that is.
It's time they realise that censorship never helped anybody. But censoring is the only thing they can think of.
What does that say about politicans when the only thing they can imagine to solve a problem is banning something?
Oops, off topic.
It's possible those parents just use it as a coping mechanism but, seriously? Every objective spectator to this must see that it's just wrong in every aspect.


If those parents were doing well the job of being parents, that event would not happen. They are simply looking for a scapegoat not to blame themselfs. But they know, yes they know deep in their hearts who is guilty.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2009 21:11    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
Censorship in Germany actually makes sense when you think about it. They are against violence but are fine with nudity and swearing.

Now if you look at USA censorship, they show violence on national TV but there can be no nudity or bad language. They are basically saying that showing a naked titty or swearing is worse than showing humans kill other humans, torture and so on. Messed up priorities.


Funny thing: I've seen swearing and nudity on American broadcast TV (PBS), but I don't think I've ever seen (outside of news reports or documentaries) any really extreme violence (blood, guts everywhere, etc). And if you're counting the kind of lol violence in shows like Heroes... well, I won't even go there. Given, I don't watch trash like CSI, but even then I would imagine it would be more the aftermath of violence, rather than violence actually being shown. Get HBO or something though, and you'll find a lot of all three.

Additionally, there's a big difference between the insane fear in America that children will turn on their TVs and see "zomg bad things" that drives the FCC to prevent nudity/swearing on TV, and the insane behavior of those in Germany/Australia/etc. that wish to absolutely ban the sale/use of such entertainment.

All of that said, it's not surprising that Americans are more afraid of sex than violence (I don't think they're more upset by "bad language" though. That's just in your head.): Simply, America was colonized by a bunch of religious zealots, and a huge amount of the current population is still religious zealots. I think I saw a statistic recently that said only 55% of Americans believe in evolution Crying or Very sad. Simply, the belief system of the average American finds violence far more acceptable than sex.

Long story short though... censorship can eat a diseased dick, and pro-censorship groups (especially "concerned parents" groups) can eat a big, juicy diseased dick.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Oct 2009 21:21    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
1. Dump some old copy of Half Life or Doom.
2. Get signed uniform.
3. Sell uniform on ebay for many euros.
4. Buy 2000 copies of Postal and give it away at local kinder garden.


LoL, i didnt recognize this post before.

Are you fucking crazy? Dumping an old copy of Half-Life? The greatest FPS ever?
I would rather dump my grandma than dumping my standard and GotY Half-Life boxes.
Let's hope you won't burn in hell for this blasphemy!


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