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JackQ
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 Posted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 17:42 Post subject: Tactical Intervention from Counter-Strike's creators [RIP] |
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http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/102/1028810p1.html
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 18:30 Post subject: |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 18:39 Post subject: |
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| lhzr wrote: | | great. another cheap asian counterstrike knock-off, like combat arms et al. |
hm, it is from the guy who made CS in the first place ....
this is probably what CS2 should/could have been (before it got cancelled)
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Ispep
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:05 Post subject: |
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Well the screenshots look uninspiring and the comments he makes don't really strike me as anything to shout home about either. Only way to find out will be hands-on time with the game though. COD4 multiplayer wasn't exactly mouthwatering on paper but in practice it was hugely successful.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 22:59 Post subject: |
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CS was/is the most overrated piece of garbage ever - doubt this will be any different.
Also, "from the creators of" doesn't really mean anything. Frontlines: Fuel of War was "from the creators of" the most popular 1942 mod ever, and look how that turned out! It's easy for developers to rest on their laurels and come nowhere near expectations on their next game.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 23:02 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | CS was/is the most overrated piece of garbage ever - doubt this will be any different.
Also, "from the creators of" doesn't really mean anything. Frontlines: Fuel of War was "from the creators of" the most popular 1942 mod ever, and look how that turned out! It's easy for developers to rest on their laurels and come nowhere near expectations on their next game. |
call cs what you want, but it IS great.
It definded its genre (team based tactic-action fps genre , kinda) it simply was great and unparalleled. or ?
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 01:49 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | | CS was/is the most overrated piece of garbage ever - doubt this will be any different. |
+1 I could add WoW to the list aswell.
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Looks horrible. I concur, cs is joke. It saddens me that there haven't been good tactical fps games after r6 raven shield.. now that was good tactical mp action, this looks like bunnyhop spray & pray mindless shooter. But yea, who cares. CS players will love it and that's good I guess.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 15:17 Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's why 1.6 is still one of the most played MP games after 10 years.
Yeah, that's why 1.6 still has maps and mods coming out after 10 years.
Yeah, that's why 1.6 is still one of the most competitive games after 10 years.
There probably won't be another MP shooter that incorporates and is based around recoil so well in many, many years.
It's a twitch, tactical shooter. Spray & pray? Learn spray patterns. Your position on the map matters greatly.
Bunnyhop? You must mean crouch-walking, a problem that BF2 is rife with. Crouch-walkers are actually very easy to kill, as long as you anticipate where they'll "land".
...and saying, "it's overrated" without any arguments doesn't really work, as overrated is one of the most excessively used words today.
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what's overrated about CS? it's a game that you'll either love or hate it all depends on your skill
recoil in it does suck but keep in mind this is not halo or cod4, it's a tactical shooter.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 15:32 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | what's overrated about CS? it's a game that you'll either love or hate it all depends on your skill
recoil in it does suck but keep in mind this is not halo or cod4, it's a tactical shooter. |
In wars CoD4 it is a tactical game -.-
Personally i never liked CS, played it about 50 hrs, and i don't know, is some how not so good as i excepted and stupid in some way, but if some1 wants to play it, why not...
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 15:35 Post subject: |
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CoD4 is an arcade shooter.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 15:36 Post subject: |
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COD4 is an action game, not a tactical one, the aim in it is perfect, not like CS.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 15:39 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | | COD4 is an action game, not a tactical one, the aim in it is perfect, not like CS. |
Did u play any wars in CoD4?
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 15:39 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | | FireMaster wrote: | what's overrated about CS? it's a game that you'll either love or hate it all depends on your skill
recoil in it does suck but keep in mind this is not halo or cod4, it's a tactical shooter. |
 You call CS a tactical shooter? Man alot of Rainbow six fans are crying :/ |
it's true that it isn't much of a tactical shooter now due to a shitload of DM servers, surf and all the other crappy custom shit, but compared to halo and cod4 and other mainstream shooter it does stand out
Rainbow six is more complex but that's not the point here, because I didn't say CS is the most tactical game ever
| xGAME007 wrote: | | FireMaster wrote: | | COD4 is an action game, not a tactical one, the aim in it is perfect, not like CS. |
Did u play any wars in CoD4? |
played DM, TDM, the mod with the bomb but it's still piss easy (for me anyway) remains fun to play tho
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CS was awesome back in it's day, but got boring over time, as most all games tend to. Although it was one of my top favorite games of all time, this new game does not look too great. Modern day shooters need great graphics and production value to go along with awesome gun play in order to interest me.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 15:46 Post subject: |
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Try the promod servers with COD4, tweaks alot of the weapon, removes perks and just add a new depth of gameplay.
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As long as you are playing public in CS, COD4, whatever you're still a noob.
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Still doesn't change the game's mechanics. It doesn't take years to get great in CoD4, hell it took me 3 days to start getting 3-1 ratio. It takes several months to get even marginally good in 1.6.
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| dezztroy wrote: |
Tactical =/= Realistic. |
So what does tactical equal for you?
Let me guess - a game that requires "tactics" in order to consistently win?
By that definition every FPS on the market is "tactical".
In order for an FPS to be tactical it has to retain elements of realism insofar as the damage modeling and weapon accuracy goes. What good is it running around under cover or coordinating entry's if bullets don't do fuck all for damage and 80% of the time luck decides the winner?
If I turn the corner, and pop a round into someone's head at close, medium, or long range (doesn't matter what weapon - be it pistol, assault rifle, or shotgun slug) that should be game over 100% of the time for the guy on the receiving end. Anything short of that is not tactical, it's ARCADE. The only FPS' that I've ever played that were tactical were the original Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon.
CS is about as tactical as water is dry.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 20:56 Post subject: |
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Yeah, let's allow 400$ pistols to be effective as 2500$ and 3100$ rifles.
Luck? Ok.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Sep 2009 20:59 Post subject: |
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lulz @ all the kiddiez defending the CS crap
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