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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:22    Post subject:
Yeah.
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greenblood82




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:24    Post subject:
Sweet, I just tested how good the game is running with sli, and the fps almost doubled with sli enabled. I guess the engine is a big step forward compared to the gothic 3 engine, which was totally cpu bound. Now if there only was a way to enable anti aliasing I would be very happy.

Btw could anyone who got the xbox360 version tell me the exact controller configuration?
Yeah I know it's lame to play such a game with a pad but I just bought a 360 controller and want to try it out.


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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:26    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
just deleted visual studio and trackmania to free up 5 gigs for it Very Happy

You deleted Visual Studio for this? Laughing
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:28    Post subject:
there seems to be an mutli5 version at the location where pirates park their ships ^^
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:35    Post subject:
Risen.CLONEDVD-AVENGED
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:36    Post subject:
Mas3ter wrote:
Risen.CLONEDVD-AVENGED


4 rizzle? hopefully with german language too


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Mussolinka
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:36    Post subject:
Seems to be working decent(~30fps) here with all maxed on afx8(4850+ quad phenom), so long at least.

Going to breeze through it on hard, I like a challenge, especialy when it's a rpg. It seems to be ridiculously easy tho, I killed a vulture in 3 hits with the club You find on the beach!


Although jumping seems to be forced in this game, as the gravity appears to be pretty weak.


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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:36    Post subject:
Hurray my GOTY arrived !

ASUS TUF B550M-PLUS | RYZEN 5600x | RTX 3060TI | 16GB DDR4
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:41    Post subject:
No I've not put Sabin on ignore, simply ignored him, took a break to cool off Razz
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VonStrahlen




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:41    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that Piranha Bytes haven't got a fucking clue how to implement combat in their games.

Welcome to Gothic 4, urmmm.. I mean Risen... home OF THE FUCKING BOAR RAPE! God damn it. Seriously, great game - about to be uninstalled due to the pathetic combat (what started as enjoyable quickly became tedium of the highest order) and hideous "it's a boar!! you go die now, kthxbai!!" bollocks mentality of the fucknuts at PB. I don't give a shit if "it's realistic!!!!111 you couldn't fight a full grown boar in real life!!11" If I wanted realism, I'd go and hunt a fucking REAL boar. I want an enjoyable game, which Gothic 4 (uuurr... Risen... sorry) is, if only you completely remove the combat.

Shit, even combat against "humans" is EXACTLY as bad.

Block. They hit and hit through your attack. "Urgh!!" you stumble back. You try to dodge, they swing and hit you. "Urgh!!" you stumble back, with half your health gone in the process.

Rinse repeat for three swings, you die, reload, try it all again.


Fucking uninstall.


Shut up you emo. PB weren't even involved in G4. Go cry and put some more make up on to hide that fuck ugly face of yours.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:43    Post subject:
VonStrahlen wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that Piranha Bytes haven't got a fucking clue how to implement combat in their games.

Welcome to Gothic 4, urmmm.. I mean Risen... home OF THE FUCKING BOAR RAPE! God damn it. Seriously, great game - about to be uninstalled due to the pathetic combat (what started as enjoyable quickly became tedium of the highest order) and hideous "it's a boar!! you go die now, kthxbai!!" bollocks mentality of the fucknuts at PB. I don't give a shit if "it's realistic!!!!111 you couldn't fight a full grown boar in real life!!11" If I wanted realism, I'd go and hunt a fucking REAL boar. I want an enjoyable game, which Gothic 4 (uuurr... Risen... sorry) is, if only you completely remove the combat.

Shit, even combat against "humans" is EXACTLY as bad.

Block. They hit and hit through your attack. "Urgh!!" you stumble back. You try to dodge, they swing and hit you. "Urgh!!" you stumble back, with half your health gone in the process.

Rinse repeat for three swings, you die, reload, try it all again.


Fucking uninstall.


Shut up you emo. PB weren't even involved in G4. Go cry and put some more make up on to hide that fuck ugly face of yours.


LoL @Sabin
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:45    Post subject:
About the combat discussion previously this is just like the previous Gothic titles were you were a weak nobody, scavengers (Bird like enemies.) from Gothic 1 could probably be compared to this games early wolves so if you are used to that and then Gothic 2 (Even harder with the Night of the Raven addon.) you can handle Risen though it'll be a challenge at first until you get your level up.

If instead you are used to a more forgiving and easy system like Oblivion or even Gothic 3 (Mainly as it was a bit unbalanced.) then this game will be pretty challenging until you've played around a bit and started learning how to fight effectively.

Moving and dodging is critical, don't count on being able to block without a decent shield or some skillpoints invested in block, also don't expect to fight well without a decent weapon and some training and remember what type of weapon you use so that you are trained in it.

Once you reach a camp like the city or swamp bandits and start spending skill points and getting decent equipment things will get a bit easier initially.

Also for early enemies remember their names, Wolves are tough creatures but the weaker version (Hungy wolf.) can be downed with five hits or so (With the first proper sword you get.) however it's a fast enemy so you need to doge and move, don't try to run as it'll run faster than you, kiting enemies (spelling?) also works if you can lure them to a stronger NPC, just remember to get them to focus on said NPC and get the killing blow in to earn the XP bonus.

Also try to hear and notice the enemies (Monsters mainly.) before you stumble into them, they'll give of a warning sound when you get close plus they'll focus on you and will take a defensive pose, backing away usually works but getting closer will trigger them to attack.
(And also note that they got various special attack moves, wolves dodge around a lot whereas the bird enemy can do a lunge attack from a distance and will also try to get to a distance from the player whereas the boar can do a sweep attack you can't really block, same with that rat like enemy.)

Overwhelming the enemy also works especially with unarmed combat if you constantly keep hitting the target, sword and other wepaons usually have three or so strikes before your character pauses a bit (Enemies will use this and attack you, same with how they move and dodge if you block and move forward.)

Ofcourse later on when you have decent stats and gold you can easily buy a two-hander or bastard sword and just cleave the damn nuisances before they have a chance.
(That initial knife weapon isn't good at all and the sword you get shortly afterwards isn't really ideal against enemies with a lot of health so getting a good weapon or even a bow or crossbow is important, same with upgrading strength for melee or dexterity for ranged combat.)

Later on though other tactics will be needed, found some goblins while taking a alternate path for example and that required a few different things to tackle effectively as some has access to range weaponry, mages will obviously be a problem later on as well.
(Especially if there is more than one enemy attacking though the friendliness from Gothic 3 is still in whereas they won't attack all at once.)

EDIT: Oh right by default the game is set to normal difficulty, I don't know all the details but for easy accessibility lets say easy gives you 150% health and you hit for 150% damage whereas on normal it's 100% and on hard 50%
(More accurately it lets you t ake less damage whereas enemies can take more, some smaller extras as well if I remember correctly but nothing major.)
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inz




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:48    Post subject:
Any of you playing already seen any armor available for purchase yet (or even looted some) or does it seem similar to earlier games where it's rare and required to join a faction to get access to?
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:48    Post subject:
Mas3ter wrote:
Risen.CLONEDVD-AVENGED


doesnt spread very well tho, only see 6 files so far and no nfo lol.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:48    Post subject:
The Avenged release seems legit. And just when I finished downloading the Russian version. Typical. Any possible pros for using the English version?
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sarap




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:49    Post subject: this is it ?
so err... just to clarify (and posibly off some of you), the pirategay is the thing ?
it says subtitles from the net ... are they the real deal ?
is there any russian left ingame like i dunno .. menus and shit ?


are we happy omg ???Smile))
30 mins to complete torrent...


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:49    Post subject:
As I've understood it you can buy low-end armor (For a hefty price most likely.) whereas high-end gear depends on what you choose to side with and how well you are doing with said group, kinda like Gothic 3 albeit a bit more restrictive.
(Kinda like Gothic 2 then, haha.)

EDIT: Nice to see a release out, now to compare it further.
(I don't expect any differences from what I said previously, intro video compression rate and audio pak file size and perhaps quality, minor but we'll see.)


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rhagz
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:50    Post subject:
Ugh another of these fucking games that doesn't let me scroll up with the mouse wheel. Anyone else have that problem? Had it NWN2 as well.. and can't find any fucking way to fix it.

And yes, latest drivers are installed.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:50    Post subject:
VonStrahlen wrote:

Shut up you emo. PB weren't even involved in G4. Go cry and put some more make up on to hide that fuck ugly face of yours.


Gothic 4 isn't even out. Risen is. Risen was made by Piranha Bytes. Risen is Gothic 3 with fancier graphics.

So shut the fuck up.

On Topic:

As for getting armour; I've not seen anywhere to buy any yet - except from the bandit camp, where you can buy worker clothes for 500 gold. I mean, Jesus, 500g?? Do the developers even WANT you to play this game, or what? Rolling Eyes
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noby_95




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:53    Post subject:
What file do you have to edit to change the rendering?

There ist a Users\Username\AppData\Local\Risen\ConfigUser.xml

and the ConfigDefault.xml in data\ini folder

I changed
<Render
ScreenObjectDistanceCulling="0.000001"
... and other settings in both files, but it doesn't seem to have an effect in game...
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:54    Post subject:
Culling doesn't affect view distance or anything like that, it's for LOD aggressiveness on models or rather how much it'll downscale polygons on certain stuff the further away you get from it, very hard to detect unless you switch between both extremes. Smile
(1.0 = full, 0.00001 or so = More or less disabled.)
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noby_95




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 19:57    Post subject:
Yes I changed ScreenObjectDistanceCulling and other settings like view distance just to try out if my settings work, but they didn't....
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:00    Post subject:
Risen.CLONEDVD-AVENGED
nfo :

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VonStrahlen




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
VonStrahlen wrote:

Shut up you emo. PB weren't even involved in G4. Go cry and put some more make up on to hide that fuck ugly face of yours.


Gothic 4 isn't even out. Risen is. Risen was made by Piranha Bytes. Risen is Gothic 3 with fancier graphics.

So shut the fuck up.


Obviously meant G3 and not 4, it's called a typo. My main point was about your face though, don't try to change the subject.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:02    Post subject:
Aye, I know I'm a handsome bugger ^_^
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:04    Post subject:
I hope the Avenged release is Multi5. German must be in it.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:04    Post subject:
The audio files you mean? if it's the EU version then they're in as they are in the X360 EU ISO and the text is already present (And usable) in the strings.pak file uploaded a while ago. Smile
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twobells
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:07    Post subject:
Enough already, everyone get on playing the game.
Honestly some of you are like little girls bitching at each other about possibly the lamest things I've ever heard.
We should be praising the likes of Beckers for making it available not moaning and pissing about that and this.

Yes, there will be people who are disappointed.
No, a lot of people don't agree with the above and are loving it.

Its the nature of the beast.
End of.


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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:08    Post subject:
wait...wait...wait...wait...wait...wait...wait...so they riped the audio and subs from the xbo360 to make th rusian clone eng Laughing hahaha now thats what I call reverse engineering
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 20:10    Post subject:
The text files (Strings.pak, short for string tables I'd guess.) is from the EU PC version, XBox version is a bit smaller and has a different name. (Well it could be renamed but it's about a MB smaller.)

Voices however are from the X360 ISO. Smile
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