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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 20:56    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
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Same with Fallout 3, the ending you watch a huge robot, destroying the Enclave army, with you not having any influece at all.


well done.........

ive done so well not reading about this or getting there yet and u kill it in one foul swoop over a morrowind fest vs oblviion lol..

btw oblivion over morrowind anyday...

Come on that one was obvious, the moment you see Optimus Prime, err Liberty Prime you know how it's going to end if you played Todd Howard's other opus Oblivion.
As Sabin pointed out if you get the Broken Steel DLC thats not the end.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 20:58    Post subject:
i loved gothic 2 (+ expansion) , gothic 3 was obviously unplayable (+ my pc was old by then lol).


And Morrowind >> Oblivion by far
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:05    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:
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Same with Fallout 3, the ending you watch a huge robot, destroying the Enclave army, with you not having any influece at all.


well done.........

ive done so well not reading about this or getting there yet and u kill it in one foul swoop over a morrowind fest vs oblviion lol..

btw oblivion over morrowind anyday...

Come on that one was obvious, the moment you see Optimus Prime, err Liberty Prime you know how it's going to end if you played Todd Howard's other opus Oblivion.
As Sabin pointed out if you get the Broken Steel DLC thats not the end.


ah ok Very Happy good lol... i take my time over these rpg type games and i mean looong time,, so i dont like any thing spoilt really.... but i love reading the forums here.. hehe..
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:40    Post subject:
Will somebodyyyyyy ( from the guys that are already playing it )tell us why the game engine seems to be that bad??

48fps @ 1920 without AA on a 5870 is RIDICULOUS!!
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:41    Post subject:
its a new card ffs, what u expect miracles? gonna have to give this one time for new cards.... and 48 is not that bad anyhow, not for playing, but bad maybe for the card at this time yes....
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:43    Post subject:
EKTELESTES wrote:
Will somebodyyyyyy ( from the guys that are already playing it )tell us why the game engine seems to be that bad??

48fps @ 1920 without AA on a 5870 is RIDICULOUS!!


I'm getting 30/40 fps here on a 280 GTX overclocked.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:43    Post subject:
Depends on what system is backing up that GPU. And it's an RPG, I assume he has everything on max. 48fps is pretty good.
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EKTELESTES




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:48    Post subject:
48fps = average @ 1920, NO AA, 16 AF + Monster system

That number is from the review someone posted on the previous pages. I think minimum is sth like 38.. (!!) ONLY

@ moosenoodles - It's the best single card on the planet @ the moment. When you see that crysis runs better than Risen, then you know that sth is wrong with the game's engine
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:53    Post subject:
Crysis has alot of tricks to improve performance, like only using HR textures when you're just in front of an object. Risen is also an RPG, the view distance is high, there are alot of light effects and alot of vegetation. RPG'd are always more taxing.
You can't simply say "Crysis is running so and so, so X should run like this". How Crysis runs is meaningless.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:53    Post subject:
EKTELESTES wrote:

@ moosenoodles - It's the best single card on the planet @ the moment. When you see that crysis runs better than Risen, then you know that sth is wrong with the game's engine


Actually, it's the best single GPU. Not single card. That honour goes to either the 4870-X2 or GTX-295 Wink

As for low performance, it's ATi. Initial drivers always suck, give it a few weeks.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 21:54    Post subject:
no it will prob be driver profile related or something.. the cards been out 2 mins lol...

and yes best card it looks to stand good when u can double the frames from a 285 38 to 62+ Smile i know where my money will be next upgrade..
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EKTELESTES




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 22:00    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
EKTELESTES wrote:

@ moosenoodles - It's the best single card on the planet @ the moment. When you see that crysis runs better than Risen, then you know that sth is wrong with the game's engine


Actually, it's the best single GPU. Not single card. That honour goes to either the 4870-X2 or GTX-295 Wink

As for low performance, it's ATi. Initial drivers always suck, give it a few weeks.


Yeah, single GPU card is what I meant. Correct Smile Still it's probably one of the best cards available to play this game now. I don't think 295 will be much better and 5870 is a lot better than the other availabe cards at the moment.


(even though it even wins the 295 at some benchies as far as I remember )
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 22:12    Post subject:
Don't get me wrong, I was just being facetious Wink Very Happy The 5870 is getting me seriously wet. I *will* be sticking one of those bad boys in my comp in the extremely near future. Out and out slaughters the GTX-280/285, and goes toe-to-toe with the GTX-295 in a lot of cases (of course it also loses in quite a few, but meh - that's a single card vs a dual)

However, my point about the ATi drivers still stands. ATi are notorious for having piss-poor drivers, initially, and it takes a good few updates before decent performance - with no glitches - comes around.
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Tuskan




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 22:12    Post subject:
So it seems the only people playin this are the people with vitrual cd 9 huh? I tried to use that with windows 7 ultimate, and it freaked out haha. Gonna have to wait for actual release.

Hope it runs good with my 4870!
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 22:15    Post subject:
It is perhaps wiser to wait a month or so and see what nVidia's offering will be, even for the mere chance of ATI reducing the price.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 22:19    Post subject:
How is this game compared to say Oblivion or Fallout 3?
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KGen




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 22:58    Post subject:
Well, just played for few hours. Graphics wise the game is not exciting. The environments are okay, but the characters and animations are pretty bad.
Music and sound are not very interesting, I hardly noticed them and that's not a good sign. Divinity 2 for example had awesome music.
Gameplay wise the game is Gothic 2. Some people say it's better, but for me it feels exactly the same: Quests and dialog trees are of the same type and complexity. The game is very combat oriented and it's as hard as Gothic 2...a lot of reloads and retries, luring enemies to guards for help and so on. Character development system looks pretty much the same, you train all your skills and attributes for money.
All in all, the game is fine and I suppose a lot of people will find it enjoyable and as much people will find it frustrating, boring, etc.
Oh, and on my rig it runs smooth at around 40 fps with all settings on highest.


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rhagz
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 22:59    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
RPG'd are always more taxing.

yes, of course they are. it's because the computer has to make many calculations about all objects and stuff. all enemies have inventories with more objects in them, so as you can see it's a lot of objects, much more than in a fps. and it has to remember all of this, at all time. AT ALL TIME. so it's normal that rpgs run worse than fpesses


LOL is this sarcasm? Has to be... at least I hope it is.
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Tuskan




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:00    Post subject:
KGen wrote:
Well, just played for few hours. Graphics wise the game is not exciting. The environments are okay, but the characters and animations are pretty bad.
Music and sound are not very interesting, I hardly noticed them and that's not a good sign. Divinity 2 for example had awesome music.
Gameplay wise the game is Gothic 2. Some people say it's better, but for me it feels exactly the same: Quests and dialog trees are of the same type and complexity. The game is very combat oriented and it's as hard as Gothic 2...a lot of reloads and retries, luring enemies to guards for help and so on. Character development system looks pretty much the same, you train all your skills and attributes for money.
All in all, the game is fine and I suppose a lot of people will find it enjoyable and as much people will find it frustrating, boring, etc.
Oh, and on my rig it runs smooth at around 40 fps with all settings on highest.



What crazy thing did you do to get it to work? Unless you already own it
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KGen




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:06    Post subject:
Tuskan wrote:
What crazy thing did you do to get it to work? Unless you already own it


Confused

You get the image with the correct directory structure (at first there was some image that had problems with that) and just load it in DT lite. Nothing else.
I wish all games worked like that, Stalker gives me trouble Sad


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Tuskan




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:07    Post subject:
Hmm, I'm pretty sure the version I have doesnt have the correct directory structre. I'll try again with a different version
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:15    Post subject:
I just installed and play it. No vcd or crack or anything. well russian audio sucks, although english subs work ill wait till the official english release Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:21    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
I just installed and play it. No vcd or crack or anything. well russian audio sucks, although english subs work ill wait till the official english release Very Happy



Not seen it on any ftp sites, is it on Usenet?

tb
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rhagz
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:28    Post subject:
It's the same damn Russian version that's been out for days. You'll know when there is a proper release...
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:32    Post subject:
Risen_XBOX360-STRANGE

now go play on your console, rhagz
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rhagz
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:33    Post subject:
Give me one first and I will.

I'm trying to decide if I want a PS3 for Blu-Ray actually.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:34    Post subject:
rhagz wrote:
Give me one first and I will.

I'm trying to decide if I want a PS3 for Blu-Ray actually.

You absolutely do NOT !
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 23:46    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Risen_XBOX360-STRANGE

now go play on your console, rhagz


Yep mate, noticed this torrent Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Sep 2009 00:05    Post subject:
yes its out for xbox region free , but... i wont waste a dl with the pc version almost out there. Smile


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