Pro Evolution Soccer 2010
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PES 2010 needs...
Better Gameplay
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More Teams & Leagues
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Better Graphic & Animation
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 19:46    Post subject:
AndreaSpooky wrote:
ixigia, how do u set render ahead in tray tools?
cant find it^^

Sry, my fault, its right name under atitray is "Flip Queue Size" which is the equivalent for Nvidia's "Max Frames to Render Ahead" Wink

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 23:05    Post subject:
roger Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 04:58    Post subject:
Performance is great, better then pes 09 + better graphics.
Gameplay is great too, im a keyboard player.
But i noticed u should play this with an analog controller (xbox)
U can move in any angle u want, 360 isch, very great.
I couldnt do this with keyboard! <-

I had stutter&tearing too, i fixed this by using the vsync option in settings.
@ pes 09 i had to force Vsync, now app controlled + settings vsync. Idea


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 04:59    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Why is sprinting done with RB, it should be RT.


Always been like that


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 08:19    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:


Nice one Smile


the CPU was lethal with FK's in PES2009 too. I see they still are...
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 13:29    Post subject:
NoLiMiTSoLDieR wrote:

U can move in any angle u want, 360 isch, very great.


you mean not only on the xy axis and diagonals, so more than 8 different directions?
I remember it happened some times on pes09 to move on an angle which is somewhere in between the diagonal ad the xy axis but that happened randomly. you mean here you can control it?
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 15:11    Post subject:
Soul_Caster wrote:
NoLiMiTSoLDieR wrote:

U can move in any angle u want, 360 isch, very great.


you mean not only on the xy axis and diagonals, so more than 8 different directions?
I remember it happened some times on pes09 to move on an angle which is somewhere in between the diagonal ad the xy axis but that happened randomly. you mean here you can control it?


Yes, its more then 8 directions. and u got full control of it.
I was playing with keyboard against a mate, something what i alway do/did in previous pro's.
But u gain a big advantage when using the analog stick.

Made a quick movie of it,


The analog stick i used wasnt that smooth, but u get the picture Wink
U can constantly move in each direction!

Cool new pass ->


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 17:45    Post subject:
This game is so damn easy. I'm playing on "Advanced" since years but this year it's ways too easy for me.

And what to hell is happend to the penalty kicks? Side view? Oh my god, this is awful, hope they change it in the final. I failed my first penalty.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 18:00    Post subject:
eierfeile wrote:
This game is so damn easy. I'm playing on "Advanced" since years but this year it's ways too easy for me.

And what to hell is happend to the penalty kicks? Side view? Oh my god, this is awful, hope they change it in the final. I failed my first penalty.

Yes, the new penalty kicks view is horrible. I don't know if they'll put it into the retail version, since hundreds of fans are complaining in the official boards.

And one other thing: PES2010 doesn't have full 360 atm. It's surely a great step forward over the 8-directions PES2009 movement, but it still remains "limited" to 16-32 directions. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's bad, but if you want a real 360 movement you'll have to stick with FIFA10 (console).
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 18:01    Post subject:
I think it was mentioned somewhere, that the penaltys are yet not implemented.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 18:26    Post subject:
Well real fluid 360 movement, woud destroy the gameplay @ pes.
This is more ideal.

Top player is definitly improved,
Team strategies work good aswell, this making the game harder.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 18:32    Post subject:
the penalty view chosen is weird indeed. even if u enable penalty kicks with the expander the view is the usual one from the back, so u can enjoy the new way of shooting (harder, but better from a certain pov).

its not the penalty kick that bothers me, but something else. some other choices made by konami.

1st.
fulltime fullfield pressing.
ive never seen in my life a team press like that.
if u play adv or prof difficulty u have atleast one man stuck on you, with tops of 3. for ALL the match.
not even certain italian teams do or can do that. not all the match.
u want to implement such feature? ok, but not for all teams (barcelona never plays that way, for the records... they can press for 20-30 mins and thats it).

2nd.
im trying not to whine but... would be possible to win at least 20% of ball contrasts?
i mean, if u do a little error (lose ball control for a 1/10 sec etc), the ball is AUTOMATICALLY lost (see above reason for comparing).
just to avoid frustration: something like "ok, ive done a little error but i can retry and retake the ball immediately". that is simply not possible.

3rd.
referees.
pes2009 had the problem of fouls and booking. if u tackled ball AND foot it was most of the time foul and book (y or r, depending). which is wrong.
now it seems to me we are on the far opposite.
in the 20+ matches ive played on the demo, cpu never received bookings (nor simple fouls) for tackling me AND THEN the ball.
cant we get a simple middle way between 2009 and 2010, pls?
ok, maybe this is all useless coz the referee chosen for the demo is the most permissive, i dont know. what i know is that there are only 1-2 average fouls in a 10 minute match.
i really liked one of the past pes where play was interrupted so easily (dont remember what pes). it was buggy and some sort of stupid, but at least a bit more realistic.
now instead fouls only for booking...
another brick on the Arcade wall.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 19:53    Post subject:
AndreaSpooky wrote:
the penalty view chosen is weird indeed. even if u enable penalty kicks with the expander the view is the usual one from the back, so u can enjoy the new way of shooting (harder, but better from a certain pov).


Which expander are you using?

/EDiT: I googled but only found the same which I using. The one I using is the demo tweak from Goldorakiller. And there is no option for enabling panalty kicks.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Sep 2009 20:48    Post subject:
eierfeile wrote:
AndreaSpooky wrote:
the penalty view chosen is weird indeed. even if u enable penalty kicks with the expander the view is the usual one from the back, so u can enjoy the new way of shooting (harder, but better from a certain pov).


Which expander are you using?

/EDiT: I googled but only found the same which I using. The one I using is the demo tweak from Goldorakiller. And there is no option for enabling panalty kicks.


theyre enabled by default.
if the match ends in a tie, penalties will be there;)

edit : ive seen theres a new version of the expander.
in 0.1 penalties are enabled by default.
now on 0.2 u can decide if u want them or not.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Sep 2009 15:20    Post subject:
AndreaSpooky wrote:
edit : ive seen theres a new version of the expander.
in 0.1 penalties are enabled by default.
now on 0.2 u can decide if u want them or not.


And where to get the v0.2 expander? Linking isn't illegal because the time expander is available on official boards.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Sep 2009 17:05    Post subject:
eierfeile wrote:

And where to get the v0.2 expander? Linking isn't illegal because the time expander is available on official boards.


http://www.filefront.com/14557375/demoTweak2010.zip Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Sep 2009 17:34    Post subject:
THX very much AndreaSpooky! Awesome, I missed the actualization.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Sep 2009 17:36    Post subject:
I noticed that this games seems to have problems with Refreshrates other than 60Hz.
Game ran horrible on my 72Hz monitor. With extreme stuttering. But it ran perfectly fluid on my 60Hz device. VSync is also only available at 60Hz!


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Sep 2009 18:28    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
I noticed that this games seems to have problems with Refreshrates other than 60Hz.
Game ran horrible on my 72Hz monitor. With extreme stuttering. But it ran perfectly fluid on my 60Hz device. VSync is also only available at 60Hz!


usual for a game converted from console.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Sep 2009 18:32    Post subject:
A demo community patch should be out soon

http://www.gamingaccess.com/index.php
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Sep 2009 20:48    Post subject:
AndreaSpooky wrote:
usual for a game converted from console.

i dont think its "usual". first time i experienced something like this.
might be usual for console games to be made to be played @ 60Hz but this games seems to be down-right broken with everything else. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 02:12    Post subject:
PES 2010 Demo Patch

Included teams:
Quote:
* VfL Wolfsburg
* FC Bayern München
* VfB Stuttgart
* Hamburger SV
* Werder Bremen
* Arminia Bielefeld


Features:
Quote:
* Correct squads with correct player numbers
* Faces for almost all players
* Real kits, numbers & fonts
* Correct player stats
* Correct line-ups
* Correct emblems
* Correct radar colours
* Bundesliga sleeve patch
* Adidas Terrapass ball
* Correct chants (additional download)
* lowercase player & team names
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 17:19    Post subject:
tricks for 2010 Wink:

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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 04:53    Post subject:
new, better tutorial, in hd :

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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 10:52    Post subject:
grazie andrea, very nice tricks.


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 13:28    Post subject:
Interesting...Thx (Grazie!)
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 19:38    Post subject:
Patch for the bored with the demo teams.
adds up Manchester United, Real Madrid, Internazionale and Chelsea here : http://uploading.com/files/584a5d68/pedp.exe

if think stats are marbled a bit use this file option to import in "dt04.img" : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3XTPIUXB

afsexplorer needed in order to import that file:http://uploadbox.com/files/9EetBBvJgT (ignore errors on img file opening)

credits goes to McLeo and to... me for the optionfile fix Very Happy

some screens :

http://www.shareapic.net/View-19390734-Pes-2010-demo.html
http://www.shareapic.net/View-19390738-Pes-2010-demo.html
http://www.shareapic.net/View-19390747-Pes-2010-demo.html
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 14:33    Post subject:
Thx again, I'll try it soon Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 14:42    Post subject:
As we all could have expected, the best football game ever is console exclusive
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/fifasoccer10
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What a shame we can't play it. And yes, I wish I had a 360 just for it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Sep 2009 18:39    Post subject:
where in that link does it say that fifa is exclusive for console, and why the f*** are you posting fifa news in PES TOPIC
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