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 Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005 20:19 Post subject: |
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new episodes come up every monday here on the movie network. so these are new. Though the way atlantis is heading i don't think we'll see a season 2 
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005 22:56 Post subject: |
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yeah, latest eps haven't been that good, btw hdtv is also out Stargate.Atlantis.S01E18.HDTV.XviD-MiNT
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005 23:23 Post subject: |
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no not that it's turning out bad It's the story they gonna get their asses raped by the bad guys  or escape in the nick of time either way episode 17 with the video recording shit made me laugh the canuck has the best shit EVER
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005 18:03 Post subject: |
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i like the serie but the last 3-4 episodes weren't that good in my opinion
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Jan 2005 18:58 Post subject: |
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I'm still stuck at s03e06 after deciding to watch the series from the beginning. I love it for sure but some things irritate me, like those naked aliens that couldn't live without the ultrasounds from that weird plant. When talking about s08 the girl from Farscape ruined it.
BTW, all hail the Asgards!
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Jan 2005 01:37 Post subject: |
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atlantis is about to be destoryed there won't be season 2 unless they survive and i don't think they will though the last episode gave them a heads up the gift
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Jan 2005 14:02 Post subject: |
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| razor1394 wrote: | I'm still stuck at s03e06 after deciding to watch the series from the beginning. I love it for sure but some things irritate me, like those naked aliens that couldn't live without the ultrasounds from that weird plant. When talking about s08 the girl from Farscape ruined it.
BTW, all hail the Asgards! |
Girl from farscape?!
What are you talking about.
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Jan 2005 16:07 Post subject: |
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he means sg-1 ep 12, when daniel is a captive aboard the prometheus..don't know what's wrong with it though, i liked the ep
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Jan 2005 18:39 Post subject: |
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Farscape so owns this series two days everyday, and five times on sunday.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Jan 2005 05:46 Post subject: |
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one down two to go and only one episode left!
i smell gloom and doom up in here this room  where fuck is that from?
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Jan 2005 01:16 Post subject: |
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stargate sg-1 was great at the beginning but is dying out now.. Looks like they are almost empty of ideas
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Jan 2005 10:42 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Farscape so owns this series two days everyday, and five times on sunday. |
Like fuck. The characters in farscape look like rejects from the first star treks villain closet.
Also, the use of the fictional word 'frell' is the lamest thing ever!
I'm glad it's essentially dead now.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Jan 2005 18:13 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | fisk wrote: | | Farscape so owns this series two days everyday, and five times on sunday. |
Like fuck. The characters in farscape look like rejects from the first star treks villain closet.
Also, the use of the fictional word 'frell' is the lamest thing ever!
I'm glad it's essentially dead now. |
Obviously you prefer shit to gourmet, that is your problem - not mine.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Feb 2005 02:47 Post subject: |
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oh my god BULLSHIT!
the newest episode was soooo bullshhit!
FUCK!
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Feb 2005 09:22 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | fisk wrote: | | Farscape so owns this series two days everyday, and five times on sunday. |
Like fuck. The characters in farscape look like rejects from the first star treks villain closet.
Also, the use of the fictional word 'frell' is the lamest thing ever!
I'm glad it's essentially dead now. |
I agree, the sci fi vision is so messed up in that serie. But still some like it. It's ceirtainly a matter of taste.
About the s08e12, I just didin't like how that girl acted and how the episode evolved.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Feb 2005 09:54 Post subject: |
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| razor1394 wrote: | I'm still stuck at s03e06 after deciding to watch the series from the beginning. I love it for sure but some things irritate me, like those naked aliens that couldn't live without the ultrasounds from that weird plant. When talking about s08 the girl from Farscape ruined it.
BTW, all hail the Asgards! |
Is it even worth the bandwidth/time? I mean, some of the recent TV (especially FOX) shows are just plain shit. |
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Feb 2005 00:13 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: | oh my god BULLSHIT!
the newest episode was soooo bullshhit!
FUCK!
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Ha-ha-ha! I really liked it how the defense of Atlantis went ... and how the circumstances were so cliché, just like the rest of the series basically. The stereotype "I'm a colonel, and I knew him...you're responsible blah, you're a damn traitor"-jargon. And the oh so sad "Yay! Let's solve everything with using a line-up of really ugly weapons mixed with earth-bullets.
I do somewhat like the wraiths though, it's a pity they don't use the potential in them, they've just basically re-used the same "Oh, I'm mighty, but I get my ass kicked like a moron all the time" just like they did with the Gu'aould (sp?).
The nice plant with the minefield... "OH! Lets place ALL of them near the planet's atmospheaar!" and the implicated causality of that, "Oh! Look! I'm smarter than Mr. Colonel smartypants" ... hmm... regurgitating, anyone?
As for the critique on farscape, come back when you've seen at least a season - further argument on that can be done in another thread. I've seen all ep:s of SG1 & Atlantis + Star Trek (Original series, Voyager, DS9, TNG, and the mind-boggingly bad Enterprise). I'm a damned Sci-Fi fan, and watch everything that's even remotely Sci-Fi, but when I'm tired of repetetive clichés there's just one option, and it isn't Stargate 
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Feb 2005 15:34 Post subject: |
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If you don't like Stargate, just don't watch it. There are enough ppl that do.
And you don't have to come up with the 'I'm a sci-fi fan, I know what's best' attitude. Taste just differs and that's that.
I'm at least as much sci-fi fan as you and I say that I really LOVE Enterprise and Stargate. Your word against mine. And If you take a step back and look at the whole picture you'll soon realise that eventually everything becomes cliché as more and more stories are created. It's very difficult to come up with something original.
Yes again we have bad guys trying to attack us, and of course we'll wipe them out eventually. But I like it because it's fun to see how things progress in the meantime. It wouldn't be much fun either if the main characters were killed so easily.
Stargate SG-1 must end some time, even though fans would like it to go on forever..so imo they wanted to gradually replace SG-1 with Atlantis, something alike but not really the same..and in that aspect they succeeded, and so I hope we may see at least 9 seasons of Atlantis too.
And yes they're taking the battle into season 2..if you've seen some more series you know that they do this so that ppl would look out for the next season. It would have surprised me if they hadn't done this.
Just my thoughts.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Feb 2005 00:12 Post subject: |
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Oh, I missed this gem. Here we go.
| Hitokiri wrote: | | If you don't like Stargate, just don't watch it. There are enough ppl that do. |
Thank you for that hint, I couldn't have figured that part out myself. So, what you're trying to say is that since there are so many people who like the series, those who dislike it should just shut up?
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And you don't have to come up with the 'I'm a sci-fi fan, I know what's best' attitude. Taste just differs and that's that.
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"You don't have to..." - once again, I know what I "don't have to" - I commented because I felt like it, just like you did. Oh, you didn't need to tell me about what's the "best attitude", because that's all about taste 
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Wrong. Not factually, but you (and I) lack the information to draw any conclusion.
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and I say that I really LOVE Enterprise and Stargate.
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"You didn't have to say it" "You could have written an essay on Bach instead"
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Your word against mine.
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All hail the lord of the obvious.
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And If you take a step back and look at the whole picture you'll soon realise that eventually everything becomes cliché as more and more stories are created. It's very difficult to come up with something original.
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I disagree, that's about as ridiculous as saying "well, it's stupid to become a scientist, everything is invented anyway" - but this conclusion of yours at least tells me why you like this series. There are tons of creative minds tha t manage to make plotlines that evolve the genre. I think Farscape does that, and a heck lot more for instance. The biggest problem with farscape is that it isn't designed so you can just check a few loose episodes and still get an impression of what it is... I saw 3 or 4 loose episodes six years ago and I thought the series sucked, I thought it was the worst crap I had ever seen. Without the context, I agree... farscape isn't good. With the context, it owns everything (imho).
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Yes again we have bad guys trying to attack us, and of course we'll wipe them out eventually. |
Or, you can make a weapon that potentially can destroy the universe, and make the bad guys sign a peace treaty. You could have the bad guy chase you all over the universe, finally catch you, and implant a chip that tries to draw information from your brain, this chip then creates an image in your mind that starts interfering with your thoughts, and eventually starts helping you when you're in trouble, because it's design is to get the information from you (that really is vital) so it also has to help you stay alive. Eventually you start calling the person (in your head) Harvey... and start sympathising with your foe, in a weird sense... somehow you start realizing that he isn't the cliché "black vs. white"-nonsense you learned at school, that he too has honorable motives - that you two in a way are after the same thing, in different ways, but realize that only one of you really can succeed... or is there another way?
What farscape does good, is that it really isn't about good vs. evil, it's about misunderstandings, about the fact that two honorable ventures when facing eachother can create a situation where you rationalize your actions just to make decisions easier.
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But I like it because it's fun to see how things progress in the meantime. It wouldn't be much fun either if the main characters were killed so easily.
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I agree. But what happens if one of your main characters somehow becomes two identical beings? What about if he becomes three? One is so logically intellectually evolved that he makes your decisions ten-twenty times faster, the other is so "retarded" that he is more like Cro-Magnon... and you have to decide to kill one of them.
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And yes they're taking the battle into season 2..if you've seen some more series you know that they do this so that ppl would look out for the next season. It would have surprised me if they hadn't done this.
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"Cliffhangers" can be used in really different ways, it's all about HOW you do the build up, and Atlantis did a horrendous job of doing this. To me, it was about as exhiliarating as watching my pants dry. They use the wraith the wrong way, make them look really stupid, and it's not really a cliffhanger, because you KNOW what's going to happen.
What I liked about Farscape was how it's cliffhangers left you really frustrated, because you DID NOT KNOW ... Aeryn Sun dies, she's dead, even the film makers had decided she would die (this was the ONE single part I really liked SG-1, and that was the part in where Daniel dies (the first time, mind you ... the last time now is just really crappy and dull). I liked the fact that farscape reminds you all the time about consequences of your actions - and how really different people, from different worlds can get along as long as there are something motivating them.
Of course we can debate all night long about which is best, which is worst... etc. I just find the way Hollywood make their movies to be exhausted. It's not so much about the clichés, it's about the Hollywood-clichés. I prefer the fresh breath of air NZ & Australian film/series-making gives me.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Feb 2005 09:40 Post subject: |
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* Updated some info in the first post.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Feb 2005 12:06 Post subject: |
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with the newest episode from atlantis i really had to laugh. suddently the gate activates: "ow its earth, so you found a zpm, great, come in, we dont find it weird at all, but i'm still in command, me doctor weir, the doctor witht the fallen in cheeks"
atlantis isnt as good as sg-1. the newest of sg-1 were really great. i guess daniel will be revived somehow cause if they let him die it wouldnt be the same
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 18:36 Post subject: |
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Yes finally episode 18 of SG1 is out, Stargate_SG-1.8x18.Threads !
Interesting...
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# This episode may be 90 minutes long.
# Michael Greenburg revealed that two versions of this episode were made. One, for hopefully eventual use on Sci Fi Channel and the DVDs, is 90 minutes in length; the other, for syndication purposes, is only 45 minutes in length, like any other normal episode of the show.
# The 90 minute version of this episode shall be shown on both the Sci-Fi Channel in the USA and Sky One for the UK.
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In the "first aired" field it also says:
BTW, if you don't believe that there will be season 9 for SG1 and season 2 for Atlantis, you're wrong because they're already recorded.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 22:23 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Thank you for that hint, I couldn't have figured that part out myself. So, what you're trying to say is that since there are so many people who like the series, those who dislike it should just shut up? |
Glad to be of help. And no, what I meant was that you don't have to torture yourself so much by watching it.
| Quote: | | Wrong. Not factually, but you (and I) lack the information to draw any conclusion. |
I agree.
| Quote: | | "You didn't have to say it" "You could have written an essay on Bach instead" |
I don't quite follow your reasoning there. Then again, I don't have a phd in science fiction..
| Quote: | | I disagree, that's about as ridiculous as saying "well, it's stupid to become a scientist, everything is invented anyway" |
The problem with science is not seeying what the problem is, let alone the solution to that problem. As more problems arise, more solutions will too and that will create new inventions. But I wonder if it's the same case with stories..what area hasn't been explored yet? And I'm not talking tv only.
| Quote: | | but this conclusion of yours at least tells me why you like this series. |
And that is?
| Quote: | | There are tons of creative minds tha t manage to make plotlines that evolve the genre. I think Farscape does that... |
Haven't seen much Farscape yet (but I certainly will in the future), so I cannot comment on it. Could be that its story is very creative, but I bet I will prefer Stargate to it anyway.
| Quote: | | I agree. But what happens if one of your main characters somehow becomes two identical beings? What about if he becomes three? One is so logically intellectually evolved that he makes your decisions ten-twenty times faster, the other is so "retarded" that he is more like Cro-Magnon... and you have to decide to kill one of them. |
Sounds like a movie I once saw..Multiplicity?? Anyway, you're right about the fact that the stories could be more interesting from a creative point of view, but that doesn't mean that it is less entertaining..at least that's my point of view.
| Quote: | | I prefer the fresh breath of air NZ & Australian film/series-making gives me. |
Maybe Australians feel the same way about Stargate. 
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Feb 2005 01:05 Post subject: |
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the threads episode was pretty good, watched it on sky one so saw the full length ver. oh why did they cancel enterprise, id rather the not so good atlantis was axed..
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