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segobi




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2009 10:02    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
segobi wrote:
however the game feels a bit cheap and VERY unpolished!

Did you install the patch?


yup installed it before i even started the game for the first time lol...
also there are loading times when you enter a house or another area...so its not very open worlded after all...
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greenblood82




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2009 10:16    Post subject:
This is weird. The game worked fine for me using dt lite + yasu but only until I restarted my system, now I'm always getting the "emulation software detected" message when starting it.
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FastMemFirst




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2009 10:29    Post subject:
It worked for me on XP64 after i did the following:
Mount Mini-Image from GCW in DT Lite with all emu options ON, without Yasu
Create a VC9 Clone of this using Virtual CD 9 with all clone options enabled.
Disable all DT drives, maybe close DT at all.
Mount the VC9 clone into your physical drive (the driveletter of your REAL dvd drive)
Done

Game looks great so far but it has some serious texture oversharping and a very bad performance if AA is enabled from the game settings. Ground textures and trees are flickering like hell for me. Anyone see this too? GF 9600GT on 182.50 here.
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greenblood82




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2009 10:44    Post subject:
Yep the texture flickering is very annoying, i wonder whats causing this. AA and AF doesn't seem to help.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2009 10:47    Post subject:
Partly mentioned in the preview I posted close to the start of this thread, some sort of lack of mip-maps for the textures so things are quite sharp even for distant objects and especially when using high levels of AF.
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FastMemFirst




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2009 12:50    Post subject:
Well, that flickering is a no go for me, just another game set on ice until patched to be playable. Same thing with Divinity 2. How can game mags review this with 88%, completely ignoring the technical issues. Fuck them, thats the main reason why i am a pirate.
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kerrang




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2009 13:28    Post subject:
so game is good beside some technical issues?
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noby_95




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 10:59    Post subject:
kerrang wrote:
so game is good beside some technical issues?


"Some technical issues". It's not only some technical issues.

The game looks bad (there seems to be no mip-mapping) and runs with low framerates even on high end hardware. Turning down the few settings doesn't help. For me it is totally unplayable. I doubt it will be ever patched to be playable.
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 14:33    Post subject:
gfx and performance aside, the combat is just terribly dull - and the story(telling) too. game went into the bin after half an hour
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eierfeile




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 14:38    Post subject:
But the game got good feedback in Germany. But I also don't understand why. The performance is awful and the gfx bad.

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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 14:38    Post subject:
But aside from the few mentioned glaring and ultimately gameplay hindering issues, the game is fantastic Smile
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lhzr




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 15:18    Post subject:


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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 19:41    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
bushwacka wrote:
gfx and performance aside, the combat is just terribly dull - and the story(telling) too. game went into the bin after half an hour

ah, another typical deck13 game. didn't expect anything else.


Maybe you should try it yourself, Epsilon think it's a fantastic game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 20:39    Post subject:


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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 20:42    Post subject:
I would've thought my post communicated sarcasm very clearly, evidently I was wrong. But let me now phrase it so everybody who can read english will understand it; I was being sarcastic.

I can't stand this game, or it's developers, nor can I stand games that flaunt themselves as being rpg's without having any choices and consequences at all.
Which is why I mostly play old games, and dislike new rpg's, not because they're new, but because they're bad rpg's.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 20:47    Post subject:
That and the poxy game is only out in German right now .... stoopid Krauts Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 20:58    Post subject:


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eierfeile




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 20:59    Post subject:
Venetica.GERMAN-0x0007

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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Sep 2009 21:43    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
I would've thought my post communicated sarcasm very clearly, evidently I was wrong. But let me now phrase it so everybody who can read english will understand it; I was being sarcastic.




It's not the first time i missed sarcasm so i'm not surprised Very Happy
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d4rk0




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Sep 2009 13:40    Post subject:
So, nothing to do, impossible make it in english, right?
In \media\shared\string_tables can find a file called german.bin (1.071 kb) that contains the german text only I guess... I had hoped was as Divinity 2... Sad
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JiGSaW
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Oct 2009 22:08    Post subject:
German Demo:

http://www.venetica-game.com/media/videos/Venetica_DEMO_de.zip

980 MB
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 14:32    Post subject:
There's a new release out ( I think ) Venetica.2009.PC. Not sure about the lang yet :S

Packed like this

Quote:
setup-1.bin 667.10 MB
setup-2.bin 667.57 MB
setup-3.bin 667.57 MB
setup-4.bin 667.57 MB
setup-5.bin 557.12 MB
setup.exe 486.19 kB


Edit : Erm fail

Interface: German (Audio) + Russian (menu, sub.)
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Ricky78




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 17:12    Post subject:
Played the german release until I passed the first boss, after that there are too much things to do to continue playing understanding only the 5% of the text, however it seems to be a quite good game but with a lot of graphic imperfections.
I hope they'll fix them for the english release.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:37    Post subject:
I've played around with the various utilities to work with the game text (German.bin) which is how the Russian translation was created but those guys had far more time and dedication than I as each line has to be inserted by hand after extraction.
(11534 or so lines all in all as of 1.01, would take weeks as it did for the Russian localization and just doing the menus and stuff isn't worth it for a RPG as the text is much more important, still I think the English version is scheduled for release in November sometime.)


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:43    Post subject:
Jesus, thank good for 'spoiler' Very Happy
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:47    Post subject:
Well that was just for the fun of it, doing it like this is much better.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kj944p

EDIT: And the 460 KB spoiler is gone. Very Happy
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xExtreme




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:33    Post subject:
Ah nice Very Happy Good i still have the image

Ftw
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:44    Post subject:
It's just a rough base, the file itself isn't touched or altered in any way due to the time it would take to put in the altered text (Line by line one at a time.) but it's a start though hopefully the fully translated and localized version arrives later this year.
(Game itself seems to have been receiving some mixed opinions, some technical issues for example.)
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FastMemFirst




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 13:37    Post subject:
Patch 1.02 is out (includes reduced texture flickering)

Patch Notes (German)
 Spoiler:
 
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Dec 2009 13:53    Post subject:
http://forum.dtp-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=14555

Pretty interesting that it has a _EFIGS prefix.

EDIT: Contains localized readme files for the installer and game but nothing else unfortunately. Razz

Code:

========================================================================================
                               Venetica 1.0                               
                               Readme               
========================================================================================


Please read this document before installing Venetica. It contains the latest information.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Content
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. INSTALLATTION
2. Before installing
3. System requirements
4. Installation
5. Manual installation
6. Running the game
7. Uninstalling the game
8. TROUBLESHOOTING


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. INSTALLATION
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2. Before installing
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Before installing Venetica, check the minimum and recommended system requirements shown
below. Your computer must meet all of the minimum requirements if you want to play the
game without any problems. If your computer meets or exceeds the recommended system
requirements, you can expect a significantly improved gaming experience.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3. System Requirements
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Operating system:       Windows® XP with Service Pack 2 or Vista
Processor:          Pentium® 4 CPU 2.4 GHz or comparable CPU
RAM:             1024 MB for Windows® XP, 1536 MB for Vista,
               2048 MB for Vista 64
Graphics card:          NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT with 256 MB RAM or comparable
Optical drive:         DVD ROM
Sound card:         DirectX® 9c compatible sound card
Free hard drive space:       10 GB


--------------------------------------------
Recommended Requirements
--------------------------------------------
Operating system:       Windows XP with SP2 or Vista
Processor:          Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8200 2,6 Ghz or comparable CPU
RAM:             2 GB for Windows® XP, 3 GB for Windows® Vista
Graphics card:          NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT or similar Graphics card with 512 MB RAM
Optical drive:          DVD-ROM
Sound card:         DirectX® 9c compatible Sound Card
Free hard drive space:       10 GB

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Installation
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Place the "Venetica" DVD into your DVD drive.
2. After the automatic startup, click on "Install Venetica" to start the installation,
and follow the instructions on the screen.


--------------------------------------------
5. Manual installation:
--------------------------------------------
If the installation screen does not appear automatically when the DVD is inserted, it
is possible that the “autorun” function is disabled. In this case, proceed as follows:
1. Double click on the "My computer" icon on the Windows Desktop or open the
   Windows Explorer.
2. Double click on the icon for your computer's DVD ROM drive to display the contents
   of the Venetica DVD.
3. Double click on the "SETUP.EXE" file to start installation and follow the
   instructions on the screen.



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6. Running the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can run the game by double clicking on the "Venetica" Desktop icon or via the Windows
start menu: click on the "Start" button at the bottom left of the screen, then on
"All Programs" (possibly also "Programs"), then on " Venetica" and finally on
"Venetica" again. The game's DVD ROM must be in the DVD drive.
To ensure that the game runs smoothly, you should close all other applications before
starting the game. This also applies to programs that run in the background and are not
displayed in the task bar (you can usually deactivate these via the icons displayed
next to the system clock).



----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7. Uninstalling the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Click on the "Start" button at the bottom left of the screen, then on "All Programs"
(possibly also "Programs"), then on “Venetica" and finally on "Uninstall Venetica".
The uninstall routine will start automatically when you confirm the subsequent query
with "Yes".


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8. Troubleshooting
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Should you experience problems related to the display or the performance of the game,
or if the game crashes, you can either change the game settings or your computer's
system settings.

The game does not run at all. (This means you can’t see the game’s start menu where
you can select "start game", or the game crashes after you selected "start game".)

First you should check whether your pc meets the minimum requirements for Venetica.
If it does not meet the minimum requirements, the game will probably not run.

Was the installation successful? Maybe your hard disc was full. In that case you will
need to remove Venetica, free some space on the hard disc, and install the game again.

Do you have the latest version of DirectX installed? The game requires DirectX to run
correctly. You can install this application from the game DVD if it was not installed
automatically during the normal installation process.

Is other software running that might interfere with Venetica? You should check your
firewall and antivirus software and settings.

Are you using the latest drivers for your graphics card? Please make sure that you are
using all the latest drivers for your hardware.

NVIDIA (GeForce graphics cards): www.nvidia.com
ATI (Radeon graphics cards): www.ati.com

If the problems persist, make sure that you are using the standard settings, because
functions such as "ATITruform", "Full screen antialiasing (FSAA)" or deactivated "VSYNC"
can lead to display errors.

The game runs very slowly.
You can change the game settings and set the display values to their minimum.


Code:

========================================================================================
                               Venetica Patch 1.02                               
                                    Readme               
========================================================================================


Please read this document before installing Patch 1.0.2.
It contains the latest information.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Content
----------------------------------------------------------------
1.   PATCH-NOTES
1.1  Bug-Fixes in Patch 1.02
2.   INSTALLATION
3.   Before installing
4.   System requirements
5.   Installation
6.   Manual installation
7.   Running the game
8.   Uninstalling the game
9.   TROUBLESHOOTING

----------------------------------------------------------------
1. Patch-Notes
----------------------------------------------------------------
Patch 1.02 resolves known issues in Venetica, improves the balancing and
supplies extra optimations.

----------------------------------------------------------------
1.1 Fixes in Patch 1.02
----------------------------------------------------------------
New Functions:

 - Screenshot-Function added (F8)
  * Screenshots are saved in the subfolder "screenshots" in the Venetica
    folder (My documents)
 - Quicksave-Function added (two slots: F5+F9, F6+F10)
 - HUD (shown on the screen) can now be turned on and off (F12)
 - "QuickUse" now functions with all interactive objects, not only on
    looting
 
Graphic-Improvements:

 - Texture flickering of objects that are in the background was heavily reduced
 - Performance:
  * Performance-improvements on activated fullscreen effects
  * New, if you use low settings (without full screen effects) appearance is faster
 - The lightning effects (day & night) were graphically re-edited:
  * the constant, dynamic lightning was improved, most of all the daily routine
    in the twilight
  * More differences in lightning/coloring during the daily routine
  * Adjustments to the full screen effects
  * More details in shadow areas
 - The graphic effects in almost all the rooms were improved
 - Grass is now shown correctly
 - VSync is now activated by default
 - The weapon is faded out when the player character is faded out
 - The weapon is shown correctly when the player character stops/pauses

Gameplay-Improvements:

 - General improvements of the camera settings during dialogues and cutscenes
 - During quick loot, regeneration will take place automatically
 - NPCs will notice the player character sooner when he comes from behind
 - Scaling of the input-sensitivity was changed so that now adjusting the
   sensitivity of the input (factor 2) is possible
 - Skills:
  * Path of the Raven
    - The speed of the Raven was reduced
    - The paths of the Raven were improved
    - It is now possible to unmark the manually marked objects on the map
 - When entering a level the player character will now be ignored by the NPCs
   for some seconds
 - The daily routine of the NPCs' in the palace was improved
 - The damping of the camera movements when using the mouse was removed
 - Fight information which is valid for the player is shown in yellow
 - Prey-Reworking:
  * The prey that you can find in cases and chests now depends on the difficulty
    level of the lock that you have to pick
  * Gained items are more adjusted to the player's progress
 - The menu will appear faster now when displaying large amounts of created
   save games.

Correcting Errors and cosmetic improvements:

 - Errors that could appear when using ladders have been corrected
 - The rotation of the player character when using doors/beds/ladders is now correct
 - Action sounds activated that were missing in some scenes:
  * Tavern Ambush
  * Tusker's tests
  * Akbah
  * Fight in the harbor
 - Quests general: Quest-Marker improved/fixed
 - Quest "The Mining Effort": You receive the correct reward now
 - Quest "Let The Games Begin!": The tournament is started correct
 - Quest "Poison": Tusker is not taking the fighting position on the ship to Africa
 - Quest "Where is The Black Grimoire?": It is now possibly to leave the Mosque
   without any problems
 - Quest "Rescue from the Tower": Cannot be misused anymore
 - Quest "Tusker's Special Friend": is ended in the correct way
 - Quest "Explosive Goods": Problem with the guards disappearing sometimes has
   been resolved
 - Quest "Chasing Bandits in the Outer City": Redundant dialogue was removed
 - Quest "Chasing Bandits in the Inner City": Redundant dialogue was removed
 - Quest "The Lesser Evil": Redundant dialogue was removed
 - Objects used by NPCs are now returned to their correct position
 - The damage of the weapons is fully counted
 - The player character is not invulnerable anymore after loading an auto save
  * "old" Autosaves function correct again
 - Conversations in the twilight world are now in the correct speed
 - Mouse keys are now editable, for example: you can assign moving forward on the
   right mouse button
 - 5-Key mouses are now also supported
 - The (dependent on direction) selection of interactive objects now functions correct
   (dependent on camera when using mouse + keyboard, dependent on player character when
   using the Xbox 360-Controller)
 - House inhabitants will not discover the player character anymore when she is in the
   twilight world
 - Skill's:
  * Enemies killed with "From Venice with Love" now play the correct animation
 - The animations of the palace guards in the Arsenal district were fixed
 - Different dying animations were activated again (were de-activated by accident in
   Patch 1.0.1)

----------------------------------------------------------------
2. INSTALLATION
----------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------
3. Before installing
----------------------------------------------------------------
Before installing Venetica, check the minimum and recommended system requirements shown
below. Your computer must meet all of the minimum requirements if you want to play the
game without any problems. If your computer meets or exceeds the recommended system
requirements, you can expect a significantly improved gaming experience.

----------------------------------------------------------------
4. System Requirements
----------------------------------------------------------------
Operating system:    Windows® XP with Service Pack 2 or Vista
Processor:       Pentium® 4 CPU 2.4 GHz or comparable CPU
RAM:          1024 MB for Windows® XP, 1536 MB for Vista,
            2048 MB for Vista 64
Graphics card:       NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT with 256 MB RAM or comparable
Optical drive:      DVD ROM
Sound card:      DirectX® 9c compatible sound card
Free hard drive space:    10 GB


--------------------------------------------
Recommended Requirements
--------------------------------------------
Operating system:    Windows XP with SP2 or Vista
Processor:       Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8200 2,6 Ghz or comparable CPU
RAM:          2 GB for Windows® XP, 3 GB for Windows® Vista
Graphics card:       NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT or similar Graphics card
         with 512 MB RAM
Optical drive:       DVD-ROM
Sound card:      DirectX® 9c compatible Sound Card
Free hard drive space:    10 GB

----------------------------------------------------------------
5. Installation
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. Place the "Venetica" DVD into your DVD drive.
2. After the automatic startup, click on "Install Venetica" to start the
   installation, and follow the instructions on the screen.


--------------------------------------------
6. Manual installation:
--------------------------------------------
If the installation screen does not appear automatically when the DVD is
inserted, it is possible that the “autorun” function is disabled.
In this case, proceed as follows:
1. Double click on the "My computer" icon on the Windows Desktop or open the
   Windows Explorer.
2. Double click on the icon for your computer's DVD ROM drive to display the
   contents of the Venetica DVD.
3. Double click on the "SETUP.EXE" file to start installation and follow the
   instructions on the screen.



----------------------------------------------------------------
7. Running the game
----------------------------------------------------------------
You can run the game by double clicking on the "Venetica" Desktop icon or via
the Windows start menu: click on the "Start" button at the bottom left of the
screen, then on "All Programs" (possibly also "Programs"), then on " Venetica"
and finally on "Venetica" again. The game's DVD ROM must be in the DVD drive.
To ensure that the game runs smoothly, you should close all other applications
before starting the game. This also applies to programs that run in the
background and are not displayed in the task bar (you can usually deactivate
these via the icons displayed next to the system clock).



----------------------------------------------------------------
8. Uninstalling the game
----------------------------------------------------------------
Click on the "Start" button at the bottom left of the screen, then on
"All Programs" (possibly also "Programs"), then on “Venetica" and finally
on "Uninstall Venetica".
The uninstall routine will start automatically when you confirm the
subsequent query with "Yes".


----------------------------------------------------------------
9. Troubleshooting
----------------------------------------------------------------
Should you experience problems related to the display or the performance
of the game, or if the game crashes, you can either change the game settings
or your computer's system settings.

The game does not run at all. (This means you can’t see the game’s start menu
where you can select "start game", or the game crashes after you selected
"start game".)

First you should check whether your pc meets the minimum requirements for Venetica.
If it does not meet the minimum requirements, the game will probably not run.

Was the installation successful? Maybe your hard disc was full. In that case you will
need to remove Venetica, free some space on the hard disc, and install the game again.

Do you have the latest version of DirectX installed? The game requires DirectX to run
correctly. You can install this application from the game DVD if it was not installed
automatically during the normal installation process.

Is other software running that might interfere with Venetica? You should check your
firewall and antivirus software and settings.

Are you using the latest drivers for your graphics card? Please make sure that you are
using all the latest drivers for your hardware.

NVIDIA (GeForce graphics cards): www.nvidia.com
ATI (Radeon graphics cards): www.ati.com

If the problems persist, make sure that you are using the standard settings, because
functions such as "ATITruform", "Full screen antialiasing (FSAA)" or deactivated "VSYNC"
can lead to display errors.

The game runs very slowly.
You can change the game settings and set the display values to their minimum.

For questions about the game or in case you are experiencing any technical problems,
please contact dtp entertainment AG’s customer services via the email address below:
supportintl@dtp-ag.com

You will typically receive a reply within 1-2 business days. However, response times
may vary considerably during busy periods.
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