Hearts of iron 3
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sohh32




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 05:38    Post subject:
I used the save fix and work , from time to time i have to fix the saves

I played all the day

Whit Italy i puppuet United Kingdom , and a lot others

Butttt .......... finally when i am having fun

CRASHHHHHHH AGAINNNNNNNN !!!!!!!!!!!

THE GAME SIMPLE CRASH IN 4 JANUARY 1948

I back in time and load other saves and CRASH again , i never see 5 january Mad

FUCK PARADOX , I NEVER GO BE ANOTEHR BETA TESTER OF THEM

Never go Buy in launch again
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 14:19    Post subject:
Haha well I think many of us finally learnt a lesson, wait a few months before picking paradox games up. They do make special and good games(eventually) But I don't think there is a game in the world that ALWAYS releases games in such a poor stage, all from alpha to beta stage. Absolutely disgraceful, and there is so many fanboys that will defend them no matter what. The forum has become a joke aswell, impossible to critize without getting jumped.

It's like a small part of me wants hoi3 to fail big time, so they might open their eyes and treated the customers with respect and to figure out that they cannot release games like this.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 14:26    Post subject:
fucking rediculous customer disrespect I say.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 16:10    Post subject:
I'd buy it on release day again.


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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 16:38    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
I'd buy it on release day again.


I download it on realease day again Very Happy

I stopped playing, i wait for a good patch and will probably buy the game.
But it's also possible that i'll never play the game again
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 17:23    Post subject:
I'd never pay for something like that and I do buy games and you can look through my post history and I recommend it to other people (like the tool I am)... but I'd still never pay for HOI3 on release. It's a joke.


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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 17:28    Post subject:
HoI3 is not a joke.
The developers need support!

You think Paradox released it in this state for fun? Because they hate their customers? Because they like releasing buggy products? No!
They ran out of money. Plain and simple.

I for one want to see HoI3 supported, addons released, and a Hearts of Iron 4 at some point, and that's why I'd buy it again.

Hearts of Iron is a great series and I want to help keep it alive.


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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 18:03    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
HoI3 is not a joke.
The developers need support!

You think Paradox released it in this state for fun? Because they hate their customers? Because they like releasing buggy products? No!
They ran out of money. Plain and simple.

I for one want to see HoI3 supported, addons released, and a Hearts of Iron 4 at some point, and that's why I'd buy it again.

Hearts of Iron is a great series and I want to help keep it alive.

Finally someone talking some sense around here
QFT


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 18:13    Post subject:
Obviously not many others are helping right? Otherwise they wouldnt be running out of money..

Your part of that minority in life that knows what needs to be done but alone cant make it happen.., comendable but the way the world is.... fruitless...
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friketje




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 18:46    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
Surray wrote:
HoI3 is not a joke.
The developers need support!

You think Paradox released it in this state for fun? Because they hate their customers? Because they like releasing buggy products? No!
They ran out of money. Plain and simple.

I for one want to see HoI3 supported, addons released, and a Hearts of Iron 4 at some point, and that's why I'd buy it again.

Hearts of Iron is a great series and I want to help keep it alive.

Finally someone talking some sense around here
QFT


Googled paradox and financial, and this is the only relevant hit

"Successful PC game publisher Paradox Interactive just had a changing of the guard in terms of its leadershop. This week the company unexpectedly announced that Fredrik Wester, previously the Executive Vice President of Paradox, has been named as the company's new CEO. The press release doesn't mention what happened to the previous CEO Theodore Bergquist.

Unlike a lot of publishers in this current economy, Paradox is actually increasing its release of games including upcoming titles like Hearts of Iron III, Majesty 2 and others. They also launched a new publishing imprint this year, Mezmer Games, which will concentrate on independent games via digital distribution."

april this year, seems like there not short of money. The game isnt that bad, just not optimized, it is to complex to do it right the first time. Compare hoi3 with empire total war for example, in 1.1 empire, the ai was not able to do a naval invasion. The hoi3 ai, in current state, is miles ahead of empire when it was released. I hate it when good and complex games, like strategy games and RPG's get bad reviews for the bugs in when released, its unavoidable. Live with it. Be glad that developers are stupid enough to even try to make a complex game.
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 18:51    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
HoI3 is not a joke.
The developers need support!

You think Paradox released it in this state for fun? Because they hate their customers? Because they like releasing buggy products? No!
They ran out of money. Plain and simple.

I for one want to see HoI3 supported, addons released, and a Hearts of Iron 4 at some point, and that's why I'd buy it again.

Hearts of Iron is a great series and I want to help keep it alive.


Thats a shitty excuse. If they knew they are running out of money, they could easily make a little less complicated game that would work.
But I'm guessing they got cought a loop like many else. They thought that if they make this thing with a budgest of 10k and earn 100k, then they'll make 1000k if they have a budget of 100k.
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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 19:01    Post subject:
 Spoiler:
 

When it doesnt correspond to one's personal opinion, everything becomes a shitty excuse
fawe4 wrote:
They thought that if they make this thing with a budgest of 10k and earn 100k, then they'll make 1000k if they have a budget of 100k.

Oh wow thanks, now i know exactly what they were thinking


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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 20:12    Post subject:
What do you really think they released it in this state because they were short on money? Very Happy

Fact is this is a niche game for select public. Its also highly demanding on harware, so that makes it also a niche game for selected public with top of the line computers. And its also have so many game braking bugs that its hardly playable. In ETW, the same game that they attacked for bad AI, you can at least expect to complete the game without game crashing bug that screws all your saves. And on top of that they sell extra models of units as DLC.

This all makes it unworthy of my money, heck it even makes it unworthy of ocupying my diskspace.
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 21:35    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:


Fact is this is a niche game for select public. Its also highly demanding on harware, so that makes it also a niche game for selected public with top of the line computers. And its also have so many game braking bugs that its hardly playable. In ETW, the same game that they attacked for bad AI, you can at least expect to complete the game without game crashing bug that screws all your saves. And on top of that they sell extra models of units as DLC.

This all makes it unworthy of my money, heck it even makes it unworthy of ocupying my diskspace.


I've seen many bugs but only had one crash which didn't corrupt the savegames.

I prefer a complex game that takes tons of patches and 6 months to be as it should be over some dumped down game, but i let others support the company untill then Smile

That would be different if close combat 6 would be released, i would buy it, bugs or not (but that will never happen Sad )
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2009 22:31    Post subject:
Personally I only had a crash bug once and it was easily fixed within 1 minute by editing my save file. Other than that I had no issues apart from things that were fixed by mods.
Speed was just fine (Core 2 Duo E6550, 8800 GT, 4gb ram, windows 7)


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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 01:27    Post subject:
Run out of money? Seriously?

Paradox isn't a small developer, and it also publishes a lot of games made by other companies. If they really were running out of money on a regular basis, then they wouldn't take so many games under their wing, nor develop more than they could handle.

HoI2:DD Armageddon was released in a sorry state as well, and it was a tiny mini-expansion. It's not about money. So far I haven't found a single reason to believe they aren't using customers as beta testers on purpose.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 10:17    Post subject:
They publish nichè and indie games almost exclusively (and mostly digitally which doesn't cost that much) and all of the games they developed themselves were niche titles which never got mainstream success and never had particularly high production values. Each game has a set budget and it isn't very high.
Plus the closed beta wasn't very successful due to many useless people signing up and never reporting anything (they just wanted early access to the game and nothing else) so the game ended up unfinished.

Anyway, patch 1.2 is coming this week and should fix most major issues.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 13:58    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
Run out of money? Seriously?

Paradox isn't a small developer


Yes they are.. they have fuck all employees
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Surray




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 21:31    Post subject:
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1.2 is now in approval testing, and if it goes well, it should be out tomorrow.

Here's some random extracts from the readme..

- The interface now has buttons for zooming in/out without using the scroll wheel, with keyboard shortcuts (pageup/pagedown).
- Snappier intercepts of invasion fleets
- Drift due to threat is now scaled with country IC so a big country (like US) is more concerned with world politics, whereas smaller countries are more concerned with keeping their heads down and wont be as affected.
- Org damage is no longer scaled by strength of brigade compared to other brigades.
- There is now a minimum supply demand for small units so that long distances wont take all the supply tax.
- Names should now appear instantly if possible. (minor lockups possible at crap cards.)
- Removed several reasons for the game to go out of sync while playing multiplayer.
- Tracked down and removed several memoryleaks, which made the game sluggish the longer you played it.
- Added Naval, land and air doctrines for all scenarios


and much more.. about 400 lines of changes..
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 21:57    Post subject:
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(minor lockups possible at crap cards.)


lol
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DarkPassenger




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 15:40    Post subject:
Full list of changes:
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 16:12    Post subject:
woah nice list Very Happy looking forward to it..
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blitzer2




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 16:57    Post subject:
Patch just released, please reupload somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 17:00    Post subject:
wowzar
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DarkPassenger




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 17:01    Post subject:
Great! I just installed Batman and don't know what to play. lol Gonna be a fun weekend.
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blitzer2




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moosenoodles




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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 18:32    Post subject:
gee that link for me is hammered to death lol..
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 18:36    Post subject:
blitzer2 wrote:
http://www.gamersgate.com/eu3/hoi3/hoi3_1.2.exe
43,5 mb



Thanks.
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Sep 2009 20:16    Post subject:
Time to start playing again Smile


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