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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 23:02    Post subject:
anyone get a strange kind of virus that has a star on the taskbar? i have windows 7 for a while now and got a strange virus or something like that today, it in shape of a star in the taskbar and doesnt let me even use start manager, rest of the icons are frozen and cant really do much whats can this be?

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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 23:29    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
IE8 is not bad at all actually, but certainly not as good as Firefox with extensions. Smile All the IE hate is getting redundant, especially when joining for the purpose of saying "IE sux, FF ftw".


It is five times slower than Google Chrome 3.0 beta and 2.5 times slower than Firefox 3.52. IT SUCKS BIG TIME!
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 02:16    Post subject:
PirateXXX wrote:

It is five times slower than Google Chrome 3.0 beta and 2.5 times slower than Firefox 3.52. IT SUCKS BIG TIME!


Well, I don't know about the chrome (I don't like stripped, gay UIs and primate functionality) but when I click Firefox or the IE8 icon, both open in an instant. Surfing is directly related to your internet connection so it is irrelevant in browsing performance, also fancy stuff like graphics, animations etc. depend a lot on your GPU. Tell me, what sort of instrument/software did you use for these measurements? I can see you don't have neither the appropriate hardware nor the required brainpower left to do any intelligent thing except making a totally idiotic argument like '"IT SUCKS BIG TIME!"

Really, you are a joke and I am a total dumbass for being the instrument of your preteen inner attention whore by giving a fuck about your insecure character's "ie8 sucks, vista is shit, dx10 is poo poo, waaaaah" way of relieving itself at this godforsaken hour of the night..
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 02:32    Post subject:
Don't pay attention to his silly comments. He likes to take "facts" out of his ass and just throw them (I'm surprised he didn't say Chrome 3.0 was exactly 4.99857899657799664455388779 times faster than IE8 Laughing). He also mentioned in another thread he has some ancient hardware and uses XP, so that might also have something to do with his silly numbers.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 06:19    Post subject:
how about these new ZWTISO releases, can microsoft randomly deactivate them?
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 06:40    Post subject:
He might have referred to Java and similar benchmarks where indeed IE8 is a bit behind (It's also a bit behind on that feature standard test site, ACID 3 I believe it's called.) albeit for normal usage you won't really notice these differences unless you switch back and forth between the different browsers, might depend on the site you visit though and what it's using.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 06:44    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Don't pay attention to his silly comments. He likes to take "facts" out of his ass and just throw them (I'm surprised he didn't say Chrome 3.0 was exactly 4.99857899657799664455388779 times faster than IE8 Laughing). He also mentioned in another thread he has some ancient hardware and uses XP, so that might also have something to do with his silly numbers.


If you are so hungry for facts then check out this:

http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/browserStatistics.action

And you can always download any browser and compare it on your own PC as I did.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 06:49    Post subject:
Devi-Lee wrote:
You can also buy Win 7 RC and when a full version gets released you get a free upgrade. I won't be able to buy an upgrade anyway since I want a 64bit version and I currently own a 32bit one. So I'll either have to buy Vista 64 bit with a free coupon for Win 7 upgrade or Win 7 64bit when it gets released in October.


How about downloading for free and fuck MS in the ass? OS should be free anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 06:53    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Yummy just converted to mozilla in windows 7, nice browser, lots on it hmmm lets hope i dont miss anything important with it being open source..



The worst browser out there is IE 8 so if you intend to use that garbage then you'll miss a ton of good stuff that comes with other browsers like Firefox, Opera, Google Chrome or Apple Safari.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 11:33    Post subject:
PirateXXX wrote:

If you are so hungry for facts then check out this:

http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/browserStatistics.action

And you can always download any browser and compare it on your own PC as I did.


For fuck's sake, aren't you the one who said benchmarks were shit and all that at the other thread? Now you're trying to hide behind one? You're trying to fuck yourself over this time now, pathetic.

PirateXXX wrote:

How about downloading for free and fuck MS in the ass? OS should be free anyway.


Yeah, OSs should be free, all women should be attracted to you, fast food stuffed into your face should make you lose weight....

PirateXXX wrote:

The worst browser out there is IE 8 so if you intend to use that garbage then you'll miss a ton of good stuff that comes with other browsers like Firefox, Opera, Google Chrome or Apple Safari.


It's clear you've never used IE8, or any other browser for the PC. You seem to be coming up with all this shit while using your Wii's internet channel. If you did, then you'd notice IE8 also comes with a lot of "good stuff" like tabbed browsing, saved sessions, addon support etc. and more.

I on the other hand, am using IE8, Firefox and Opera. I mainly use Firefox since 1.5 and now I can't leave behind all my stored information and addons. But there were times I would get fed up with it's amateurish design and functionalities causing stupid errors and glitches, like opening multiple tabs causing the browser to crash. I patiently waited for the next patch each time and so far it worked. But no matter what script I enable or disable, some pages just don't work with Firefox (like online banking services, I don't use the net only for pr0n you know). So I got a nice addon called IEtab which opens an IE rendered tab inside Firefox.

Rant all you want, but IE8 does indeed rule because of a magical little thing called: "compatibility". And cry as much as you want, but times are changing, technology is improving and your hardware and software are becoming (if not already became) obsolete.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 12:45    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
He might have referred to Java and similar benchmarks where indeed IE8 is a bit behind (It's also a bit behind on that feature standard test site, ACID 3 I believe it's called.) albeit for normal usage you won't really notice these differences unless you switch back and forth between the different browsers, might depend on the site you visit though and what it's using.

That's true, but on the other hand IE8 (like Chrome) has a multithreaded design, where each tab is opened in a separate process; if one tab crashes (due to faulty plugin, dubious JS script, etc), only the tab fails, instead of crashing the entire browser, like I get now in Firefox. Another example is extensions like DownThemAll, which allocates space on the HDD before starting to download, and while doing so locks up the entire browser because it all runs on one thread. Awful design, really. Mozilla finally cracked and will change to some sort of multithreaded design (not as powerful as Chrome's) because of public pressure, but to have waited so far is very dubious if you ask me (their reasoning lies with silly Linux users still using old CPUs; a multithreaded design will be a bit slower on a PIII than a singlethreaded one Embarassed).

I hate to be the devil's advocate, I don't use IE8, but I hate people pulling silly statistics out of their asses in support of half-ass claims.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 17:34    Post subject:
So Win7 is up on my MSDN-AA yay for that:



The only thing that ultimate has and pro doesn't is (according to MS site): Help protect data on your PC and portable storage devices against loss or theft with BitLocker.

So is that a big thing or not? It doesn't matter, I'll be getting pro asap, but just for info...


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 17:37    Post subject:
Yeah, Pro is really enough if you can get it for free. Smile

With Ultimate (and Enterprise) you also get the option to install and use MUI language packs, but this is usually not an issue for most. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 18:12    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:

With Ultimate (and Enterprise) you also get the option to install and use MUI language packs, but this is usually not an issue for most. Smile


Yeah, I saw that, but I thought it was pretty much pointless to emphasize that Very Happy

But I'm interested in that BitLocker thing. What is it?


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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 18:16    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
iNatan wrote:

With Ultimate (and Enterprise) you also get the option to install and use MUI language packs, but this is usually not an issue for most. Smile


Yeah, I saw that, but I thought it was pretty much pointless to emphasize that Very Happy

But I'm interested in that BitLocker thing. What is it?


I think it just encrypts all your personal data, so if your PC was stolen, the data couldn't be accessed without the password.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitLocker_Drive_Encryption


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 18:33    Post subject:
I have yet to try it with a USB. I tried once, and it complained I had no TPM in the machine, but now I see in Wiki that it supports booting using a USB memory, so it could be fantastic for laptops. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 18:55    Post subject:
So, anybody knows if the two keys that you receive on MSDNAA (for the 32 bit version and 64 bit version) can be used simultaneously on two different machines? I know that tracking activations for MSDNAA users sounds stupid, but it's MS, so I just want to be sure Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 18:58    Post subject:
KGen wrote:
So, anybody knows if the two keys that you receive on MSDNAA (for the 32 bit version and 64 bit version) can be used simultaneously on two different machines? I know that tracking activations for MSDNAA users sounds stupid, but it's MS, so I just want to be sure Smile


As far as I know they can be used. My system admins at uni said so, and I don't see why it shouldn't be possible...

And thnx for info Newty Smile


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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 21:56    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
As far as I know they can be used. My system admins at uni said so, and I don't see why it shouldn't be possible...


Awesome, so I basically got 2 keys Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 09:37    Post subject:
KGen wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
As far as I know they can be used. My system admins at uni said so, and I don't see why it shouldn't be possible...


Awesome, so I basically got 2 keys Smile


Well I think that for 32, and 64- bit version you have two different keys, but they don't change. So you can use them over, and over, and over...


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 09:44    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:

Well I think that for 32, and 64- bit version you have two different keys, but they don't change. So you can use them over, and over, and over...


I'm pretty sure someone in this thread (I think it was iNatan) said that the keys work for 32 and 64 versions Confused


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 09:49    Post subject:
We used to share genuine XP keys around close friends and it worked all those years. I can't say anything about vista since no one bought it. But a friend of mine is considering actually buying the 7 x64 Ultimate. So he asked me to do a research on.. say.. what would happen if he gave me his DVD, I copied it and installed and activated it using his key. Is there a limit on the activations of the same key? Any possibility of blacklisting?
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 11:33    Post subject:
KGen wrote:
dingo_d wrote:

Well I think that for 32, and 64- bit version you have two different keys, but they don't change. So you can use them over, and over, and over...


I'm pretty sure someone in this thread (I think it was iNatan) said that the keys work for 32 and 64 versions Confused


Well I'm not 100% sure, but when I got my XP I had key for 32 bit version that didn't change, but I haven't dl'ed 64 bit version so I cannot say for sure... Oh and I'm talking about MSDN-AA ofc, for those other things I dk...


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 11:43    Post subject:
XP 64bit was very different from 32bit (namely, XP 64bit is actually based on Server 2003 codebase). With Vista and 7, it is not so. Vista and 7 32bit keys should work with 64bit ISOs. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 13:21    Post subject:
I've just checked with my MSDN-AA account and the two differ (key for 32-bit from 64-bit version)...


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson
chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 13:29    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
I've just checked with my MSDN-AA account and the two differ (key for 32-bit from 64-bit version)...


What do you mean? They are two different keys, but iNatan says each one of them work for both versions.


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 13:35    Post subject:
Cant wait for the official rls!!!


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 14:20    Post subject:
Leftos wrote:
I've been trying Windows 7 on my netbook, Acer Aspire One A150 (1.6GHz Atom, 1GB ram, Intel integrated graphics), and I've been blown out of my mind. Performance is even better than XP due to Superfetch allowing me to cold boot programs much faster, the intuitive interface allows me to multi-task in a much easier manner, and it boots so damn fast! Plus, no program using the onboard sound chip lags anymore, no more random pausing and cracking using Foobar2000, VLC or GOM.

Only downside is I installed the tiny7 release (only one which would fit on my 1GB USB stick) and since eXPerience have removed WMP12, I don't get the required filters for Windows to play WAV and MP3 files and so on on their own, so Windows has no sounds besides the startup sound, and I can't get any sounds on WLMessenger besides the custom notifications by Messenger Plus! Live. Also, if you install the tiny7 release and try to use any kind of home networking (old-style or homegroup), it's going to fail unless you switch a load of disabled services to manual or automatic. It's a burden, but after I did it I have full home networking again.


I've been running it with my 150 as well and gonna try it out a full install tonight on my desktop ( dunno whether pro or ultimate though )

Only trouble I had was connecting it to my home network to access files from other computers , royal pain in the arse but as you say a bit of digging fixs that


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 14:22    Post subject:
KGen wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
I've just checked with my MSDN-AA account and the two differ (key for 32-bit from 64-bit version)...


What do you mean? They are two different keys, but iNatan says each one of them work for both versions.


This has already been said in this thread that on the MSDN account they give you 2 diff keys for both products.. Its just something they do I guess, so you will have 2 keys to use on 32 and 64 bit OS's..
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 14:32    Post subject:
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?t=8432

More updates.

EDIT: Seems one of them might be a bit troublesome, that -v2 one.

EDIT: Used google and searched for the KB article number, supposedly these might be test updates for issues that are currently affecting a few things with W7, however the final versions won't be out until at least October 22nd (When the OS retails.) from MS Update, these "beta" or what to call them versions will work just fine though as they'll just be overwritten by newer updates. (There's a few V2 versions in this new pack for the ones in the previous leaked update pack.)

That KB56xV2 something update for x64 systems however might lower the build number on x64 OS's so it's not recommended, based on a Russian site most fix smaller things in the kernel and other minor functions but they don't seem to be critical for the OS to function problem free or how to say it.
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