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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2009 14:52    Post subject:
That would actually be quite awesome.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2009 14:56    Post subject:
I so want to play Very Happy come on patch, sick of this bullshit AI crappy coding..
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EyePatch




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2009 16:22    Post subject:
Playing as the U.S.A. I invaded and conquered Canada.

Coming up next is the invasion of Mexico.

Also I'm trying to ally myself with the U.S.S.R.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2009 17:13    Post subject:
hehehe

Well, I ran into a problem, not sure if it's a bug or a mistake on my side somewhere.
As I said I annexed nationalist china and used to get quite a lot of resources from there, but all of a sudden I'm barely getting anything. My resources show 'Convoyed in' with numbers like 12 energy, 3 rare metals and stuff. That just can't be.

Any ideas?

If I can't fix this I might have to release china as a puppet to drop my IC as it's currently not sustainable, especially if I decide to declare war on the soviets which are currently trading me about 50 metal and 100 energy.
Of course that would then free up troops which I have stationed down there to take care of revolts, which could be used to attack elsewhere...



The allies and axis are at war now, with the commies still standing by doing nothing. I'd really like to blow the UK out of india, but if I declare war on them I'll probably be at war for the rest of the game so I need a solid economy.. otherwise my war effort will just ground to a halt in 1943 or so and I'll be stuck god knows where.

fun!


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Surray




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Aug 2009 23:04    Post subject:
So where is CC? This would seem to be a game for him.. beeing about WW2 and all.


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-=Cartoon=-
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 00:57    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
hehehe

Well, I ran into a problem, not sure if it's a bug or a mistake on my side somewhere.
As I said I annexed nationalist china and used to get quite a lot of resources from there, but all of a sudden I'm barely getting anything. My resources show 'Convoyed in' with numbers like 12 energy, 3 rare metals and stuff. That just can't be.

Any ideas?

If I can't fix this I might have to release china as a puppet to drop my IC as it's currently not sustainable, especially if I decide to declare war on the soviets which are currently trading me about 50 metal and 100 energy.
Of course that would then free up troops which I have stationed down there to take care of revolts, which could be used to attack elsewhere...



The allies and axis are at war now, with the commies still standing by doing nothing. I'd really like to blow the UK out of india, but if I declare war on them I'll probably be at war for the rest of the game so I need a solid economy.. otherwise my war effort will just ground to a halt in 1943 or so and I'll be stuck god knows where.

fun!


Do you have enough transports (convoys) for the resources ????

DOW the netherlands.. take all their south east asian posessions.. there are alot of resources there.

Are you allied with siam ?? might want to do that.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 00:58    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
I so want to play Very Happy come on patch, sick of this bullshit AI crappy coding..


Its all in script files.. there are alot of mods in the mod section of the forum that "fix" the ai

(well help a lil) Razz


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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 01:05    Post subject:
Yeah I have 70 unused convoy ships, so that can't be the problem. Maybe I need to manually setup convoys or something to fix this.. not sure where I can see how many resources are stockpiled in an area that need to be convoyed out.


Communist China is still alive I'm afraid. I wasn't able to defeat them in the first war that I started by mistake, and they joined the ComIntern in the middle of that war. So if I delcare war on them again now, I'll be at war with the soviets. I'll get them sooner or later Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 01:11    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
Yeah I have 70 unused convoy ships, so that can't be the problem. Maybe I need to manually setup convoys or something to fix this.. not sure where I can see how many resources are stockpiled in an area that need to be convoyed out.


Communist China is still alive I'm afraid. I wasn't able to defeat them in the first war that I started by mistake, and they joined the ComIntern in the middle of that war. So if I delcare war on them again now, I'll be at war with the soviets. I'll get them sooner or later Smile



Hmmm not sure.. lots of revolts in china ??

But yeah.. the netherlands posessions in south east asia = lots of resources Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 01:12    Post subject:
*Starts a game as japan*
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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 01:28    Post subject:
some revolts, revoltrisk is at 5.6% or so in nationalist china.
it's just so strange that it work fine before. I used to have all resources in + but now I'm losing all resources quickly eventhough I didn't really change anything and no trades were canceled.

I guess I can try taking netherlands' areas there.. but I got a feeling I won't get any resources from there either...gotta figure this out first.


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 01:32    Post subject:
Guys. New rule; don't post until the patch is out. You're making me jealous Sad Laughing


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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 11:08    Post subject:
heh, sorry ispep.



so I found that I had convoys running at 100% efficiency from shanghai and other chinese ports that transported absolutely nothing for some reason.

I switched to manual resource convoy control and set up a new convoy from Pusan in korea to tokyo... and BAM! It appears all my resources were stuck there or something, because this insane 3 ship convoy is somehow transporting the resources of the last several months right now.

Quote:
Ships 19969.2 Metal every day. Ships 32823.6 Energy every day. Ships 7393.4 Rare Materials every day.


that's pretty screwed up but I'm just happy that I'm getting my resources. lol

Btw, while I was trying to figure out what's wrong I went and puppeted Yunan, Tibet and Sinkiang. They are sending their units to help deal with rebels in China which is pretty nice.

Now, it's time to make new enemies.


edit: nm now I'm still just getting resources from korea. china is still stockpiling everything somewhere.. argh!
edit2: found them! the resources were in qingdao... first day of the convoy running got me like 90k energy. Now everything is back to normal and I'm ready for action!
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 18:33    Post subject:
I guess i have to wait for a good patch because to many things go wrong.
Few more days and i could invite Austria into my faction (playing as Germany), alignment was 50.22 but a few days later it was 67.71.
At the same time my fuel went from 81k to 99k (not to bad Smile )

The same happenend with Czechoslovakia, i was close to invite them but then their alignment was over 200.
There are probably many more things that go wrong that i don't know about.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 18:50    Post subject:
Yes the forum everytime I go look has new threads on more issues, pisses me off I wanna nestle into the game ffs... Not gonna happen it seems for a long time.. Im even thinking patch 1.2 is not going to now cover things needing doing unless they are constantly watching the threads..

Im betting they have a list of things to do for 1.2 and thats it, then onto 1.3.. which sucks cause a game like HOI you need things to be fair and accurate otherwise its a mess.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 19:23    Post subject:
may not be perfect right now but I'm having a blast.

currently planning my invasion of USA. I'll probably attack with a bunch of battleships and carriers first, then do amphibious assaults on multiple ports on the west coast simultaniously so I won't get bogged down by supply issues, then go from there with my battleships supporting the troops with shore bombardment.

the USA is already at war with germany, so I'm guessing they won't be prepared for my attack (or at least I hope so).


Btw, germany just landed in australia. lol


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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 19:31    Post subject:
Ghworg wrote:
I guess i have to wait for a good patch because to many things go wrong.
Few more days and i could invite Austria into my faction (playing as Germany), alignment was 50.22 but a few days later it was 67.71.
At the same time my fuel went from 81k to 99k (not to bad :) )

The same happenend with Czechoslovakia, i was close to invite them but then their alignment was over 200.
There are probably many more things that go wrong that i don't know about.


just like that? hovering over another country in the alignment pyramid shows detailed stats on alignment changes, telling you exactly why it's moving toward what alignment at what speeds.
I found that beeing very agressive scares other countries away from your faction (which is why everyone ends up joining the allies), maybe you attacked some stuff and scared poor austria?

the fuel thing might be caused due to an interrupted convoy like what I had. when it's re-established you get all the stockpiled resources in the first day, potentially giving you a massive resource surge (I gained 70k energy and 30k metal or something)
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Ghworg




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 19:42    Post subject:
I produce all the fuel myself, nothing is imported.

I was checking Austria for a while, seeing it go from 52 to 50.22 and it was going steady to 50, all the time.

I'll try loading a savegame before it all happenend and see if it happens again.
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flyme




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 20:58    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:

But yeah.. the netherlands posessions in south east asia = lots of resources Very Happy

plenty of resources, but not enough to sustain the japs. the southern resource areas really need some tweaking so it's a viable move for the japs.

so does the northern region, but hoi2 has always had the far east of russia bare of anything except a little oil

managing an economy as japanese isn't the easiest to do. best to stockpile the most you can the earlier the better
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 23:20    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Yes the forum everytime I go look has new threads on more issues, pisses me off I wanna nestle into the game ffs... Not gonna happen it seems for a long time.. Im even thinking patch 1.2 is not going to now cover things needing doing unless they are constantly watching the threads..

Im betting they have a list of things to do for 1.2 and thats it, then onto 1.3.. which sucks cause a game like HOI you need things to be fair and accurate otherwise its a mess.


the games not that bad at all if you dont read the forums...

reading those forums get ya a bit aww bout it.. but after playing for awhile its not that bad.

its FAR from perfect... but still really really fun..

Its a entire different kettle of fish from HOI2 atm

HOI2 at launch without the mods (Eg HSR which gave a billion new events.. GIP that changed all the gfx etc) Was not that great...

I would pick this over launch HOI2 anyday.

Those mods will come ... and will make the game 2392302x better (Along with the AI fixes)... but they could be awhile.. so cant wait Razz


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 23:23    Post subject:
Understand what you mean there lol, reading can depress when you got all the old skool HOI players nit picking.. its still stands that I dont want to put deep effort into this unless I know that some ass AI move is going to be infair or shouldnt happen..

Im just picky myself about things like that in a strat game...

Im itching to bother trying, as I found it so hard to get into before with the other HOI's but this one I want to make an effort and will do once most the issues are ironed out. Very Happy
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 03:50    Post subject:
After playing a whole the game goes so slow you rather want to watch paint dry Sad So sad, and my computer is really good.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 03:58    Post subject:
Do the nice little trick of running it in window mode... Everyone seems to see a big improvement doing so.
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clragon




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 04:44    Post subject:
ahh I was playing as national Chinese and took over all the smaller chinese factions/warlords. Just from that I generated enough treat to piss off everyone because Im bordering UK, France, and Soviet Union. Sad why must they hate me for just unifying china.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 05:45    Post subject:
how can u border uk its an island Very Happy

there were chinese near france? wtf have they done with the game?

now soviet union I can understand...
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clragon




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 06:34    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
how can u border uk its an island Very Happy

there were chinese near france? wtf have they done with the game?

now soviet union I can understand...


colonies (india for UK and a few south east asian countries for France)
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 07:28    Post subject:
dammmmmmmmmmmmm this was a hard war..

Spanish civil war.. im winning as the republicans Very Happy Very Happy not long to go now
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Remember spoilers. ~Epsilon
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zmed




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 10:35    Post subject:
Use [spoiler ][/spoiler ] please.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 13:46    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
Use [spoiler ][/spoiler ] please.

What he said.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 13:54    Post subject:
clragon wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:
how can u border uk its an island Very Happy

there were chinese near france? wtf have they done with the game?

now soviet union I can understand...


colonies (india for UK and a few south east asian countries for France)


Ah i see...
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