fahrenheit 911
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digitalman26




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 17:25    Post subject: fahrenheit 911
Cant wait till a TS comes out or TC, who else wants to see this movie? also what happen to vcdquality.com ??? are there any other movie sites like it and nforce?
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 18:06    Post subject:
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In an era where authentic journalism and critical analysis have been sacrificed for ambulance chasing and hyperbole, Michael Moore has basically fallen into the same trap. Even worse, instead of attempting to transform the political landscape by appealing to a broader psychographic audience, Moore has simply catered to and played off the angry left, driving his spear further into the wound of the American collective consciousness.

And that is no way to heal a painful rift. If that was ever the point.


read more on his thoughts here

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There is no doubt that Michael Moore is one of the best documentary filmmakers in the history of the genre. Purists can balk all they want. Sure, he's more Leni Riefenstahl than Errol Morris. And he doesn't have quite the touch of Jacques Cousteau. But what Moore lacks in sheer cinematic dexterity, he more than makes up with effective political commentary. And, at times, he's very funny.


Completely agree with this point though.

you can get slightly more in depth thoughts about the film here as well

the two articles seem to say what we all assumed anyway, but as entertainment I'm sure like his previous outings it will not fail - so in that sense I can't wait either Smile


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brr8760




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 19:11    Post subject:
Good post, Ispep. Curious what you'll think of the doc.

I might actually drag my lazy carcass down to the theater to check this out.

VCDQ has been down for 2 days now....
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macex




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 20:37    Post subject:
I saw this on ircspy.com

Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD1.tar
Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD2.tar

don't know if it's fake or not
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cirithungol




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 21:57    Post subject:
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Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD1.tar
Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD2.tar


Probably fake... you can't have forward slashes in filenames (or at least not on my computer)

Somebody on another website said they're going to release it officialy through BitTorrent on 3rd July. I know Michael Moore has said he has nothing against file sharing, but I very much doubt they'd do this!
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Mutantius
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 22:06    Post subject:
cirithungol wrote:
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Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD1.tar
Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD2.tar


Probably fake... you can't have forward slashes in filenames (or at least not on my computer)

Somebody on another website said they're going to release it officialy through BitTorrent on 3rd July. I know Michael Moore has said he has nothing against file sharing, but I very much doubt they'd do this!

Yeah well sorry dude.. It´s fake Smile; http://www.denounce.com/archives/000055.html


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cirithungol




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 00:28    Post subject:
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Yeah well sorry dude.. It´s fake ; http://www.denounce.com/archives/000055.html


Crap! Sad

Oh well, will have to see it in the cinema... only 9th July for me (UK).
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Zeo
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 01:56    Post subject:
I'm sure it might show up earlier Smile


Never argue with an idiot...he will drag you down to his level, and then beat you with his experience...
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digitalman26




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 04:04    Post subject:
well the pot camrip is out, how much worse is a camrip than a TS?
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tr1pp1n




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 04:27    Post subject: The epitome of Left wing socialist extremists
Please... after seeing the movie I am now positive Michael Moore is a fat "Jackass" referring to his political party of course. But on a more serious note, this is propaganda in an attempt to influence swing voters and personally I think its garbage. Mr. Moore thinks lying is the way to go. Especially after reading stupid white men (his bullsh*t book from 2002) he has now proved to me that he is indeed a deceitful fat*ss who helps corrupt the masses. I did however get a good laugh at some of it. But even the New York Times the most liberal paper in the country gave the movie a bad review now cmon' how can you compete? My sympathy is with anyone who takes this garbage he calls a film seriously. And one not commenting on the women telling the story about her son who went to Iraq. He fought for the country and obviously died for what he believed in otherwise he like some of the assholes in our country would have draft dodged to Canada or converted to Islam. So she may be hurting from the death of her loved one and want someone to blame... but if she wants someone to blame, blame Zarqawi or Saddam don't find an excuse to pin it on the president, who by the way has support for the war by the majority of the country. (according to the latest polls) But most of you kids pirating the movie shouldnt fucking care, cuz you dont live in the usa anyways... edit: and one other note Moore the best film maker in history for his genre, obviously you people know nothing, do you know Moore's political beliefs, not that hes just liberal minded, I mean know his stance on most issues... He sounds like a commi almost...I guess smelly French people would like em.... but who cares... to every man his own. (in Moore's case to every twinkie Twisted Evil )
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Loser-man




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 05:28    Post subject:
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So she may be hurting from the death of her loved one and want someone to blame... but if she wants someone to blame, blame Zarqawi or Saddam don't find an excuse to pin it on the president, who by the way has support for the war by the majority of the country. (according to the latest polls)


But it is bush's fault, he declared war on terror, he ordered the troops there, it was his decision.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/754311.cms

Your wrong about the majority also. More than half of the US population thinks the war is a mistake. How can YOU argue with that?

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obviously you people know nothing,


Rolling Eyes A little hostile arnt you.

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blame Zarqawi or Saddam don't find an excuse to pin it on the president,


Why in the hell would we blame saddam for the death of her son? Because he told the truth about not having WMD? Because the iraqi people are seeing more death now than ever? I dont get it. Please tell me.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fb20040627a1.htm
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 06:22    Post subject:
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tr1pp1n




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 12:38    Post subject:
Loser-man wrote:
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So she may be hurting from the death of her loved one and want someone to blame... but if she wants someone to blame, blame Zarqawi or Saddam don't find an excuse to pin it on the president, who by the way has support for the war by the majority of the country. (according to the latest polls)


But it is bush's fault, he declared war on terror, he ordered the troops there, it was his decision.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/754311.cms

Your wrong about the majority also. More than half of the US population thinks the war is a mistake. How can YOU argue with that?

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obviously you people know nothing,


Rolling Eyes A little hostile arnt you.

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blame Zarqawi or Saddam don't find an excuse to pin it on the president,


Why in the hell would we blame saddam for the death of her son? Because he told the truth about not having WMD? Because the iraqi people are seeing more death now than ever? I dont get it. Please tell me.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fb20040627a1.htm


First of all if u dont declare war on terror more attacks happen /me coughs 9/11, Libiya embassy bombings ect... now i know it only affects the people who are killed and your view is you could care less, but they do lose their lives and that is worth fighting for. Secondly according to the latest poll released by foxnews (this being the most recent poll) www.foxnews.com/polls 58 percent of america supports the war on terror, and the war in Iraq so dont fucking correct me.
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 12:49    Post subject:
Fox News? Polls?

...both as laughable as each other, and when put together I nearly cry.

There is no doubt that Moore is manipulative and mostly counter-productive when it comes to getting his point across, but it's not as if there aren't extreme-right in America doing exactly the same is it?
Personally it's about time there was a high-profile 'lefty' like him to open the eyes of impressionable people. If it gets them thinking, questioning the government, and if there is already extreme alternatives to Moore - then why not? it can only be a good situation in the end.

Traditional dissenters are boring and too 'safe', Moore will pander and engage his audience. It's a shame it has to come to this though.


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digitalman26




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 16:35    Post subject:
Most of the polls iv'e seen show a slight edge to more people not being for this war, and even if it was around 50/50 that's still horrible. Why did we go to war again?? WMD?? answer my question, talk about manipulation, bush acts like Saddam was behind 911. Anyone who listens to any of his speaches knows he's a moron, he cant even pronounce half the words in our language. Bush is for the Ultra rich and it shows, he gave the normal guy $350 back on taxes, he gave the rich $3,000,000 back. Come on, Bill Gates doesn't need another mansion at the cost of the deficit blowing up bigger than it's ever been. Bush sucks.
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TheDamned




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 18:52    Post subject:
digitalman26 wrote:
Most of the polls iv'e seen show a slight edge to more people not being for this war, and even if it was around 50/50 that's still horrible. Why did we go to war again?? WMD?? answer my question, talk about manipulation, bush acts like Saddam was behind 911. Anyone who listens to any of his speaches knows he's a moron, he cant even pronounce half the words in our language. Bush is for the Ultra rich and it shows, he gave the normal guy $350 back on taxes, he gave the rich $3,000,000 back. Come on, Bill Gates doesn't need another mansion at the cost of the deficit blowing up bigger than it's ever been. Bush sucks.



word.
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Loser-man




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 20:06    Post subject:
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First of all if u dont declare war on terror more attacks happen /me coughs 9/11, Libiya embassy bombings ect...


Dude, please, come on. Your telling me that if we didnt take out saddam they would have attacked the US again right? Well guess what, we are always being told that the US is under this or that status alert, the threats of terror attacks on America have risen. Terror attacks in the middle east are more frequent now then ever. We declared war on terror, but we are the ones making the terrorists. Its a catch 22.

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now i know it only affects the people who are killed and your view is you could care less, but they do lose their lives and that is worth fighting for.


They lost their lives for a stupid cause. THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DIE! THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DIE, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DIE.

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Secondly according to the latest poll released by foxnews (this being the most recent poll) www.foxnews.com/polls 58 percent of america supports the war on terror, and the war in Iraq so dont fucking correct .


Foxnews huh, fair and balanced (yea right). Open your eyes trippin because thats what your doing.

Oh yea, the poll you put was taken June17, the one I gave was taken June 25. You also have to catch up with the times.
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