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Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 17:25 Post subject: fahrenheit 911 |
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Cant wait till a TS comes out or TC, who else wants to see this movie? also what happen to vcdquality.com ??? are there any other movie sites like it and nforce?
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Ispep
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Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 18:06 Post subject: |
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Quote: | In an era where authentic journalism and critical analysis have been sacrificed for ambulance chasing and hyperbole, Michael Moore has basically fallen into the same trap. Even worse, instead of attempting to transform the political landscape by appealing to a broader psychographic audience, Moore has simply catered to and played off the angry left, driving his spear further into the wound of the American collective consciousness.
And that is no way to heal a painful rift. If that was ever the point. |
read more on his thoughts here
Quote: | There is no doubt that Michael Moore is one of the best documentary filmmakers in the history of the genre. Purists can balk all they want. Sure, he's more Leni Riefenstahl than Errol Morris. And he doesn't have quite the touch of Jacques Cousteau. But what Moore lacks in sheer cinematic dexterity, he more than makes up with effective political commentary. And, at times, he's very funny. |
Completely agree with this point though.
you can get slightly more in depth thoughts about the film here as well
the two articles seem to say what we all assumed anyway, but as entertainment I'm sure like his previous outings it will not fail - so in that sense I can't wait either 
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Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 19:11 Post subject: |
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Good post, Ispep. Curious what you'll think of the doc.
I might actually drag my lazy carcass down to the theater to check this out.
VCDQ has been down for 2 days now....
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Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 20:37 Post subject: |
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I saw this on ircspy.com
Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD1.tar
Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD2.tar
don't know if it's fake or not
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Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2004 21:57 Post subject: |
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Quote: | Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD1.tar
Fahrenheit 9/11.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD2.tar |
Probably fake... you can't have forward slashes in filenames (or at least not on my computer)
Somebody on another website said they're going to release it officialy through BitTorrent on 3rd July. I know Michael Moore has said he has nothing against file sharing, but I very much doubt they'd do this!
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Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 04:04 Post subject: |
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well the pot camrip is out, how much worse is a camrip than a TS?
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Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 12:38 Post subject: |
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Loser-man wrote: | Quote: | So she may be hurting from the death of her loved one and want someone to blame... but if she wants someone to blame, blame Zarqawi or Saddam don't find an excuse to pin it on the president, who by the way has support for the war by the majority of the country. (according to the latest polls) |
But it is bush's fault, he declared war on terror, he ordered the troops there, it was his decision.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/754311.cms
Your wrong about the majority also. More than half of the US population thinks the war is a mistake. How can YOU argue with that?
Quote: | obviously you people know nothing, |
A little hostile arnt you.
Quote: | blame Zarqawi or Saddam don't find an excuse to pin it on the president, |
Why in the hell would we blame saddam for the death of her son? Because he told the truth about not having WMD? Because the iraqi people are seeing more death now than ever? I dont get it. Please tell me.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fb20040627a1.htm |
First of all if u dont declare war on terror more attacks happen /me coughs 9/11, Libiya embassy bombings ect... now i know it only affects the people who are killed and your view is you could care less, but they do lose their lives and that is worth fighting for. Secondly according to the latest poll released by foxnews (this being the most recent poll) www.foxnews.com/polls 58 percent of america supports the war on terror, and the war in Iraq so dont fucking correct me.
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Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 12:49 Post subject: |
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Fox News? Polls?
...both as laughable as each other, and when put together I nearly cry.
There is no doubt that Moore is manipulative and mostly counter-productive when it comes to getting his point across, but it's not as if there aren't extreme-right in America doing exactly the same is it?
Personally it's about time there was a high-profile 'lefty' like him to open the eyes of impressionable people. If it gets them thinking, questioning the government, and if there is already extreme alternatives to Moore - then why not? it can only be a good situation in the end.
Traditional dissenters are boring and too 'safe', Moore will pander and engage his audience. It's a shame it has to come to this though.
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Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 16:35 Post subject: |
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Most of the polls iv'e seen show a slight edge to more people not being for this war, and even if it was around 50/50 that's still horrible. Why did we go to war again?? WMD?? answer my question, talk about manipulation, bush acts like Saddam was behind 911. Anyone who listens to any of his speaches knows he's a moron, he cant even pronounce half the words in our language. Bush is for the Ultra rich and it shows, he gave the normal guy $350 back on taxes, he gave the rich $3,000,000 back. Come on, Bill Gates doesn't need another mansion at the cost of the deficit blowing up bigger than it's ever been. Bush sucks.
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Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 18:52 Post subject: |
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digitalman26 wrote: | Most of the polls iv'e seen show a slight edge to more people not being for this war, and even if it was around 50/50 that's still horrible. Why did we go to war again?? WMD?? answer my question, talk about manipulation, bush acts like Saddam was behind 911. Anyone who listens to any of his speaches knows he's a moron, he cant even pronounce half the words in our language. Bush is for the Ultra rich and it shows, he gave the normal guy $350 back on taxes, he gave the rich $3,000,000 back. Come on, Bill Gates doesn't need another mansion at the cost of the deficit blowing up bigger than it's ever been. Bush sucks. |
word.
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Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2004 20:06 Post subject: |
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Quote: | First of all if u dont declare war on terror more attacks happen /me coughs 9/11, Libiya embassy bombings ect... |
Dude, please, come on. Your telling me that if we didnt take out saddam they would have attacked the US again right? Well guess what, we are always being told that the US is under this or that status alert, the threats of terror attacks on America have risen. Terror attacks in the middle east are more frequent now then ever. We declared war on terror, but we are the ones making the terrorists. Its a catch 22.
Quote: | now i know it only affects the people who are killed and your view is you could care less, but they do lose their lives and that is worth fighting for. |
They lost their lives for a stupid cause. THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DIE! THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DIE, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DIE.
Quote: | Secondly according to the latest poll released by foxnews (this being the most recent poll) www.foxnews.com/polls 58 percent of america supports the war on terror, and the war in Iraq so dont fucking correct . |
Foxnews huh, fair and balanced (yea right). Open your eyes trippin because thats what your doing.
Oh yea, the poll you put was taken June17, the one I gave was taken June 25. You also have to catch up with the times.
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