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 Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2009 10:56 Post subject: GP2x Wiz (Pandora, Dingoo etc) |
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So I guess you could consider this PC hardware but handheld? I dunno, not getting any attention in the console section, but...anyone have one?
i was looking for the original cause I Want it now but seems everyone is sold out of the new wiz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X_Wiz
http://www.gp2xwiz.com/
My thoughts as is over the weekend playing it:
The build oozes quality, almost seems like it cost more than 180, everything has a nice gloss finish to it (kind of a fingerprint magnet), all the assembly is nice and flush and seems very well sturdy.
The controller layout is pretty well done and while people whine about the D-Pad button configuration on the right side, it actually works pretty well , it's just not the normal setup as you would see which is why people whine about it. almost the same setup as a gameboy advanced except the play buttons on the right are that d-pad, keep in mind their not connected like a normal d-pad, they're all seperate buttons.
The media using SD Cards seemed a bit off to me seeing as I never used that media other than the shitty 128MB card I have in my camera and never thought I'd need one but it's actually pretty convenient having the lil thing. I use an 8GB SD HC card from PNY and fit every rom from nes, snes, sega mega drive, sega gamegear and most of the GBA games on just 1 8GB card. Mame on the other hand will be another story lol.
The OS itself is pretty retard proof and works quite well, the thing came with some shitty installed games and I don't really use them, some of them use the touchscreen feature but they seem like kiddy games, im hoping they'll get around to a nintendo DS emulator.
The main reason I bought this is to have my emulators to come around with me as I don't care much for playing them on a huge 19" LCD making the screens stretch out and shit, seems so much more fun on a little hand held.
The screen seems small at first but once you start getting into the older NES/Sega games it just seems natural and doesn't bother me as much as I would have thought seeing as I generally hate handhelds.
The volume on this sucker is also actually quite loud and clear considering it's small size. I dig the old school nes music on it lol.
Pros:
-Well layed out controller, also VERY responsive, the touch screen seems pointless for not until more shit is developeed for it, im crossing fingers for a DS emulator.
-NES, SNES, Sega Games, Game Boy Advanced, it beats buying a hand held and paying for each game.
-The OLED screen is amazingly vibrant and clear, beats the shit out of LCD where you can't even see them in the light. The screen tearing issue really isn't even that big an issue, you barely notice it, most games you can use a v-sync option on them to fix the issue.
-Crystal clear and loud speakers.
-The leather case accessory you can buy for a little 20 dollars is very well built, holds the system nice and has slots for different cards and the stylus. Held shut but a decent magnet to keep the case nice and flush.
Cons:
-My usb detection thing for windows doesn't work, so I can't plug it in and have windows detect it, I have to take the card out and switch back and forth, not much of a big deal I guess, but for 180 I expect everything to work out of the box, I'll wait for a firmware update and see if that fixes it.
-The control system get a little getting used to with the d-pad like controls on the right.
-System doesn't let you cofigure the controls for the handheld itself, your forced to use the "B" button as the select button while the button that is called select isn't used for such.
Also for you who are newish to this sort of thing, this isn't a con nor a pro, but something to keep in mind.
These handhelds are opensource and are driven by the community who offers to develop the software for it. If the community isn't there, then the handheld will fail, if it doesn't do what you hoped for anyways. I wanted it for emulators and it does that well...very well. Obviously you can request things on the boards and if a developer feels up to it, they'll write the software for it.
Last edited by SpykeZ on Mon, 15th Jun 2009 17:14; edited 2 times in total
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2009 11:14 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't really say that something running on an ARM architecture processor can be called PC hardware, and the form factor doesn't really fit, either.
That aside, these things do indeed kick ass. I'm hoping to someday get a Pandora as well.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2009 11:22 Post subject: |
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| Cedge wrote: | I wouldn't really say that something running on an ARM architecture processor can be called PC hardware, and the form factor doesn't really fit, either.
That aside, these things do indeed kick ass. I'm hoping to someday get a Pandora as well. |
ive read how much the pandora could kick ass but it's been constant delayed for over a year. pre-orders been canceled, orders been taken down etc. At least the GP2's have been coming out, I had planned on getting the other GP2x a while back but was turned off by the analog instead of the d-pad, this one looks hell of a lot better, just wish they weren't sold out everywhere, next shipments aren't in till later this month  |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2009 16:42 Post subject: |
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Pandora looks sweet. Will have to look into that sucker a bit more. Thanks for the link.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2009 17:42 Post subject: |
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I got a pandora dev unit, it's quite nice to work with.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2009 21:06 Post subject: |
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| Epsilon wrote: | | I got a pandora dev unit, it's quite nice to work with. |
is it really that close to release now that you got a copy? |
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crossmr
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009 02:59 Post subject: |
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over here in Korea they need to advertise more. I've been here over a year and I've seen like maybe one ad for the thing.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009 15:21 Post subject: |
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they seem really popular even though no one seems to have one around here, they shipped last month and are already sold out and I have to fucking wait till later this month to get one
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2009 15:44 Post subject: |
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SWEET FUCKING JESUS I FINALLY FOUND A PLACE THAT HAS THEM IN STOCK
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azzman
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009 03:59 Post subject: |
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SpykeZ how is it? I wouldnt mind one of these type of things
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009 16:26 Post subject: |
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| azzman wrote: | | SpykeZ how is it? I wouldnt mind one of these type of things |
no idea yet, by store I meant online so it's being shipped.
Epsilon has one of the older models and said it's cool but seriously, imagine an open source video game system, what could be better.
The wiz is supposed to have a wifi adapter coming out at some point, can't wait, I hope they are able to get an online emulator working like they did for the NES.
I'll post a personal review of it when I get it 
[edit] so I originally chose the slower shipping cause it was already costing a bundle (and I hate UPS) and it's being shipped out today, and I get tracking number tomorrow but the downside is of me choosing such shipping, I found out they ship from ontario, canada, so it'll be that 6th day out of the 2-6 day shipping I asked about upgrading the shipping but my order and everything was already proccessed. So now I have to wait even longer for my toy to arrive
Oh well, it'll be neat to dick around with it once I get it, almost makes me want to learn how to code |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009 17:55 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | imagine an open source video game system, what could be better. |
A handheld with cool games ? 
What games are out/will be out for this ? |
dunno yet, they have a lot of plans out for this, open source games, getting proffesionally dev'd games etc.
Im mainly buying it for emulation purposes as well as supporting the open source idea.
so far 2 xcom games have been released that run through dosbox, wolfenstein3d, and a decent list of homebrew games.
It also has Flash 8 support built in so you can install flash games to your hearts content |
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Jun 2009 18:17 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | azzman wrote: | | SpykeZ how is it? I wouldnt mind one of these type of things |
no idea yet, by store I meant online so it's being shipped.
Epsilon has one of the older models and said it's cool but seriously, imagine an open source video game system, what could be better.
The wiz is supposed to have a wifi adapter coming out at some point, can't wait, I hope they are able to get an online emulator working like they did for the NES.
I'll post a personal review of it when I get it
[edit] so I originally chose the slower shipping cause it was already costing a bundle (and I hate UPS) and it's being shipped out today, and I get tracking number tomorrow but the downside is of me choosing such shipping, I found out they ship from ontario, canada, so it'll be that 6th day out of the 2-6 day shipping I asked about upgrading the shipping but my order and everything was already proccessed. So now I have to wait even longer for my toy to arrive
Oh well, it'll be neat to dick around with it once I get it, almost makes me want to learn how to code |
Where did you order it from? I would love to buy one, and if it ships from Ontario, i can save some duty charges.
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009 03:27 Post subject: |
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| Bigperm wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | azzman wrote: | | SpykeZ how is it? I wouldnt mind one of these type of things |
no idea yet, by store I meant online so it's being shipped.
Epsilon has one of the older models and said it's cool but seriously, imagine an open source video game system, what could be better.
The wiz is supposed to have a wifi adapter coming out at some point, can't wait, I hope they are able to get an online emulator working like they did for the NES.
I'll post a personal review of it when I get it
[edit] so I originally chose the slower shipping cause it was already costing a bundle (and I hate UPS) and it's being shipped out today, and I get tracking number tomorrow but the downside is of me choosing such shipping, I found out they ship from ontario, canada, so it'll be that 6th day out of the 2-6 day shipping I asked about upgrading the shipping but my order and everything was already proccessed. So now I have to wait even longer for my toy to arrive
Oh well, it'll be neat to dick around with it once I get it, almost makes me want to learn how to code |
Where did you order it from? I would love to buy one, and if it ships from Ontario, i can save some duty charges. |
http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catalog/GP2X-orderby0-p-1-c-243.html
make sure you pick up an SD card as well
http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/_search.php?is_hc=Y&page=1&q=kingston
I grabbed the 8GB which should be more than enough. |
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2009 17:38 Post subject: |
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there is nothing geeky on this earth that could make me as happy as this picture has..
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009 00:50 Post subject: |
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well I got mine today and so far it's a pretty nifty device. Unfortunately my microSD card won't read or format so I'll have to get that replaced so I gotta use my lame 128MB card I had laying around.
As far as the unit goes, it's pretty cool playing old emulators on it, fun too, only gripe I have so far is the fact the USB won't show up in windows to transfer files so I have to use a card reader to put the files I need on it
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009 17:14 Post subject: |
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| azzman wrote: | | SpykeZ how is it? I wouldnt mind one of these type of things |
just added a lil review of it in the first post, if you want pictures n shit lemmee know. |
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009 18:24 Post subject: |
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I went through your review and it's kinda interesting, still I love my psp more, because of :
commercial games
homebrew apps and emulators
ps1 support
better looks (I think, haven't seen the gp2x up close, looks a little plain/less fancy from the screens)
better controls, dpad+analog+face buttons+triggers+extra buttons (I mean home/select etc)
Do you agree with the above, Spykez ? I don't know if you have a psp. I'm reading the GP2x specs and it seems it has strong hardware. I wonder if it's strong enough for DS emulation (but they will have to split the screen in 2 ?)
How much internal mem does it have (1gb?)
Flash Player 8 support sounds nice (goddamn psp browser lol)
How is it connectivity-wise ? I didn't find any mention of wireless or something in the wiki.
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009 19:28 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | I went through your review and it's kinda interesting, still I love my psp more, because of :
commercial games
homebrew apps and emulators
ps1 support
better looks (I think, haven't seen the gp2x up close, looks a little plain/less fancy from the screens)
better controls, dpad+analog+face buttons+triggers+extra buttons (I mean home/select etc)
Do you agree with the above, Spykez ? I don't know if you have a psp. I'm reading the GP2x specs and it seems it has strong hardware. I wonder if it's strong enough for DS emulation (but they will have to split the screen in 2 ?)
How much internal mem does it have (1gb?)
Flash Player 8 support sounds nice (goddamn psp browser lol)
How is it connectivity-wise ? I didn't find any mention of wireless or something in the wiki. |
the looks as far as the buttons were meant to be simple, but the overall build quality is great, and the black face on the wiz has kind of a metallic flake undercoat which is nice.
internal memory I believe is 1GB which is the nand memory but you can go up to a 32GB SD card. I'm using an 8gb right now and is more than enough really.
the DS has an emulator but it's for PC so I dunno if it's possible or not to make one for the wiz, I wouldn't know how the coding for the touchscreen would work.
There is no wireless at the moment but it's definitelly possible, they mentioned a wi-fi adapter for a future release so hopefuly it comes around and we get online NES games like nestopia has on PC.
I've played on the PSP and I don't like it the least bit, it's too obnoxious to hold and the button layout isn't much different other than the analog which I found useless in most games. I dunno.
I bought this for the support of opensource. I've heard some of these emulators run better on the wiz than the PSP but I can't vouch for it. Im sure the PSP is more powerful, never read the specs.
Mainly, this thing is just a toy and I like seeing all this opensource shit being posted so for 180, you get the handheld, and everything else is free, and you don't have to hack it to run emulation and shit.
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009 19:42 Post subject: |
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Well, it's hard to compare specs for devices like these, but it looks like GP2x Wiz has better cpu and more ram.
As for the controls, main difference is the shoulder buttons.
Have you seen high quality video on the Wiz ? Specs suggest that it has bigger resolution in videos than the psp. (PSP's screen has the usual drawbacks and advantages of LCDs :difficult to see in light, high response time, motherfucking stuck pixels, but it looks crisp)
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Jun 2009 20:20 Post subject: |
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nah, haven't done anything with flash or movies or anything yet. Just been doing emulators atm. Someone is working on dosbox atm  so that'll open up a world of new possibilities.
Thing is the wiz just came out just last month so it'll take some time before it gets hoofing with the goodies.
and quite honestly, I wouldn't compare any handheld to the wiz unless it was another open source handheld, I'd leave the PSP comparisons to the DS and shit like that.
I read somewhere gamepark would like to get professionally developed games for the wiz, not sure how that's going. I hope all these plans they have for it work out, but none the less, I'm happy with my emulators.
They have a nifty site up atm, they're still working on it though
http://www.gp2xwiz.com/
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 15:57 Post subject: |
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Ok so, don't order anything from consolesource.com
I'm having a small issue with my GP2X and the live help support is pretty much saying unless the main site says it's an issue, i don't get my RMA.
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azzman
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2009 08:24 Post subject: |
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What problem are you having?
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2009 19:09 Post subject: |
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| azzman wrote: | | What problem are you having? |
So far the general consensus is that GPH aren't making their USB cables very well. The insides are a hack job almost, over soldering etc. Mine personally won't let windows recognize the card reader/built in memory. Which isn't too big a deal, should leave the built in memory for flashing the device with new firmware updates etc. Pop the SD card into a card reader and wallah |
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Jun 2009 23:03 Post subject: |
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So apparently theres a shipment of the pandora being sent out, think it's something to do with the developers. So hold onto your pants, pandora is coming
I'm sure epsilon can add some insight to the status of it.
All in all I have my wiz for now, grea little unit but once the price drops a bit on the pandora I'm sure to get one.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Jul 2009 09:51 Post subject: |
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I'm heading into Tokyo tomorrow, anyone have an opinion on which of these bad boys I should pick up? At the moment I'm thinking the dingoo is the best way to go for what I want (just a straight up, easy to use emulation platform).
I wish the new PSP was out :@!!
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2009 19:49 Post subject: |
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I ended up picking up a Dingoo in Tokyo, not had much of a play yet as I'm still on holiday but I did pull down about a gig of US snes roms so that should keep me busy on the plane home! I'll update once I've made a verdict on the device!
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 04:19 Post subject: |
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So how are ya liking the dingoo? Wiz is finally starting to get some decent open source games and shit on it but the pandora is shipping soon, in which case I'll prob sell my wiz and get the pandora instead.
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