When the system is so corruptly deemed to fail, every effort in trying to fix it is pointless and meaningless, the only meaningful effort that can be made to improve society is to design and implement a new system from the ground up with absolutely no regard to the rescuing of old systems, norms and hierarchies that are proven obsolete and would inherently corrupt the new system.
This was the nature of my epiphany, although I hate calling it that now, so pretentious. Of course it was related to biology and psychology though.
I got to be honest with you, practically everything you say on this forum, your points of view, your mindset and so forth, well, sometimes it almost feels that I'm having a conversation with myself, as far as I can remember, there was only one discussion that I know of that we had slightly different views on the subject regarding god's existence, everything else that I see you post in here, it seems that you're in a complete sync with me.
I'm saying this because, it was only a few days ago that I thought of making a thread about this subject.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
My friend and I call the people numb to it "being assimilated". Or no longer being able to think for themselves.
The Borg!
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
If people would embrace science, mathematics, and art instead of religion. The technology would advance much faster. Judo-Christians and Muslims all point back to one point in time. Lets blame the Egyptians.
Christ....thought this since I was 13.....so a yes...
Most people at that age do, regretfully, most of them become numb to it somewhere along the line, unfortunately the age when one begins to become aware of the intricacies of the world around them they also become focused on other shallow and futile things, it is also at this age that most of our biological functions go into overdrive, so only few remain aware of it after those ages, but the greater percentage come to the end of adolescence only to become another unquestionable slave of the system.
Ooh, I almost get chills recognizing the truth of that statement. Although it has to be said you are a bit too optimistic about things Ron, but that is actually a good thing in most situations.
Syco, you are the perfect example of how the system has failed to capture someone with an incredible intuitive capacity. I think you've only recently realized the significance of that, hence why you're so happy now, severing your ties with your ex-wife probably had a lot to do with that. Though it must be said, you have almost unlimited potential now. You should consider a degree from the open university in your spare time. A formal education in biology and physics would complete you.
I wouldn't say recently...but yeah. I put into practise what I've always believed or thought more so than I did.
As for exwife...the second time we divorced, I was already over her. Haven't seen her since. Don't want to. I don't even hate her or resent her dude.
She's fucked and well, judging by her pedigree, she always will be.
You can't hate someone for being stupid as a bag of door knobs. I still don't like the fact that she put me through a ton of shit...but it was also my fault for not ending it for good sooner. I just need to..well, grow a pair really. I did and its worked out for the best.
I was happy before I was with Angela. Happy with her.
Life has a funny way of working out it seems (for most people).
And yeah, I have been thinking of going back to school (seriously). Two things I'm really interested in is Astrophysics and Anthropology.
But I get disillusioned that I can't study at a top notch school (an MIT or Oxford etc). If I am gunna put the time into such an endeavour, I wanna learn from the best you know?
I dunno tho. Still seriously thinking about the school thing.
Would be fun to be back in school this time around. And UFT (Uni of Toronto) is a decent school. I can go as a mature student.
I dunno. Its on the table for sure.
I never disliked school (the work or the learning). I hated most of the teachers. Arrogant, egotistical dickheads imo (the majority, always exceptions to the rule).
And I know it was only grade school and high school, but the lowest mark I ever got was an 80 percent. School was always easy and fun. The teachers ruined it for me.
Teaching used to be a vocation...now its a job with great holidays and good benefits...sad.
When the system is so corruptly deemed to fail, every effort in trying to fix it is pointless and meaningless, the only meaningful effort that can be made to improve society is to design and implement a new system from the ground up with absolutely no regard to the rescuing of old systems, norms and hierarchies that are proven obsolete and would inherently corrupt the new system.
This was the nature of my epiphany, although I hate calling it that now, so pretentious. Of course it was related to biology and psychology though.
I got to be honest with you, practically everything you say on this forum, your points of view, your mindset and so forth, well, sometimes it almost feels that I'm having a conversation with myself, as far as I can remember, there was only one discussion that I know of that we had slightly different views on the subject regarding god's existence, everything else that I see you post in here, it seems that you're in a complete sync with me.
I'm saying this because, it was only a few days ago that I thought of making a thread about this subject.
I have to agree with both of you.
While I may not speak as elegantly, the vast majority of what AM says and the stuff you say dude, I already agree with.
But its funny cuz I think while you and AM may be a lot alike in habits and such in your lives...I'm the opposite.
My friend and I call the people numb to it "being assimilated". Or no longer being able to think for themselves.
The Borg!
U know you would fuck Seven of 9 (and her 8 identical TWINS) lol
I would. And have her talk all serious and shit to me about some fuckin tachyon excelerator or some such thing lol Nerdy ass fantasy, but it'd b damn hot
My friend and I call the people numb to it "being assimilated". Or no longer being able to think for themselves.
The Borg!
U know you would fuck Seven of 9 (and her 8 identical TWINS) lol
I would. And have her talk all serious and shit to me about some fuckin tachyon excelerator or some such thing lol Nerdy ass fantasy, but it'd b damn hot
Oh god, she was a walking nerdgasm!
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
U know you would fuck Seven of 9 (and her 8 identical TWINS) lol
I would. And have her talk all serious and shit to me about some fuckin tachyon excelerator or some such thing lol Nerdy ass fantasy, but it'd b damn hot
Oh god, she was a walking nerdgasm!
Exactly.
Dude, I've always had a thing for the 'hot librarian' look.
Angela has that look when she's in her business clothes (not shaby, old school clothing, modern clothing of course). But she has her glasses (reading mostly), her woman's business attire, hair done professionally and elegantly.
But in seconds she can turn into a fuckin super hottie (trust me, I've jumped her as soon as she has come in the door before...hike the skirt up/undo the pants, off goes the top, take her hair down but leave the glasses on and the heels...oh yes....I will be ready tomorrow when she gets home...lol I'm serious).
Never thought she would be into me as a romantic interest but as you know, she made the first move. Surprised me.
And oh man, I went to Catholic school...dude, corrupting a nice hot catholic school girl is so fucking good when your in school (obviously, as a man its disgusting and illegal...but role playing isnt ). Had only 2 really serious christian chicks go 'evil' with me. Fucking freaks is all I can say....those were good times lol Thank god Angela is asleep
Hehe... really... children whining. Parents\teachers\bosses\society force them to learn\do things they don't want to (as opposed do things they want to, like play around) = society is evil. Rohrin and dominae already said my thoughts better than I could. But still there are things I'd like to add...
Came on people, you do realize that every single one of you really wants to be at 'top' of the society. That inherited and logical need, to be the best gene carrier. A 'puppeteer', not a 'puppet'. It means there is no such system that would satisfy such condition, because lets face reality - not everyone can be a winner. Unless of course you stuff every single human into matrix like world of his own choosing, and with his own conditions to it. First analyze your selves and be true to your own needs, atleast in your head. You are the building blocks of this society after all.
Still everything is about perspective you look at things. You learn that as you grow. You choose to be a puppet to loved ones and for their sakes. Is that a bad thing?
Hehe... really... children whining. Parents\teachers\bosses\society force them to learn\do things they don't want to (as opposed do things they want to, like play around) = society is evil. Rohrin and dominae already said my thoughts better than I could. But still there are things I'd like to add...
Came on people, you do realize that every single one of you really wants to be at 'top' of the society. That inherited and logical need, to be the best gene carrier. A 'puppeteer', not a 'puppet'. It means there is no such system that would satisfy such condition, because lets face reality - not everyone can be a winner. Unless of course you stuff every single human into matrix like world of his own choosing, and with his own conditions to it. First analyze your selves and be true to your own needs, atleast in your head. You are the building blocks of this society after all.
Still everything is about perspective you look at things. You learn that as you grow. You choose to be a puppet to loved ones and for their sakes. Is that a bad thing?
I'm not sure how to take this...a) I'm no child b) I don't care about status and being at the top of anything.
U may disagree...but thats because its your perspective you see through and your judging people through your eyes. I know exactly what I want, how I feel etc
Art is a good example. Art can only be seen through your own eyes or psyche, so therefore are you really seeing what the artist wanted you to, or your own take? If so, there is no true art is there?
Hehe... really... children whining. Parents\teachers\bosses\society force them to learn\do things they don't want to (as opposed do things they want to, like play around) = society is evil. Rohrin and dominae already said my thoughts better than I could. But still there are things I'd like to add...
Came on people, you do realize that every single one of you really wants to be at 'top' of the society. That inherited and logical need, to be the best gene carrier. A 'puppeteer', not a 'puppet'. It means there is no such system that would satisfy such condition, because lets face reality - not everyone can be a winner. Unless of course you stuff every single human into matrix like world of his own choosing, and with his own conditions to it. First analyze your selves and be true to your own needs, atleast in your head. You are the building blocks of this society after all.
Still everything is about perspective you look at things. You learn that as you grow. You choose to be a puppet to loved ones and for their sakes. Is that a bad thing?
I'm not sure how to take this...a) I'm no child b) I don't care about status and being at the top of anything.
U may disagree...but thats because its your perspective you see through and your judging people through your eyes. I know exactly what I want, how I feel etc
Art is a good example. Art can only be seen through your own eyes or psyche, so therefore are you really seeing what the artist wanted you to, or your own take? If so, there is no true art is there?
But I do agree with you to a certain degree.
Syco pretty much explains my viewpoint on this perfectly.
A child's eyes in an adult's body is the perfect state of mind. Never accept things just because you feel you have no way of changing them, that's just intellectual laziness and the spawn of mediocrity.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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I am a slave to no-one, my loved ones included. No matter how often they try to take advantage of my understanding nature. My sister and me recently fell out over this exact issue. Will we ever speak again? I don't really care if she chooses not to change.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
My bad SychoShaman. It was aimed more for the younger generation. I kinda got furious at some statements here...
What I wanted to say was that you always have a free choice no to follow those orders, but face repercussions... Livings has became so easy that people really forget what it's all about.
Yeah, I might only be 23 but I've always been unusually mature for my age.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
Technically you are. It's just that you choose to not to view it as a slavery. That is what I was saying about perspective. From someone elses perspective you might look like a slave, but from your owns you are just... do no... helping? having relationship and doing what you are supposed to? It's all about excuse we create to make our lives easier. It's your choice to create them.
Technically you are. It's just that you choose to not to view it as a slavery. That is what I was saying about perspective. From someone elses perspective you might look like a slave, but from your owns you are just... do no... helping? having relationship and doing what you are supposed to? It's all about excuse we create to make our lives easier. It's your choice to create them.
I'm sorry but that does not apply to me at all. I only have a good relationship with a few members of my family, namely my mother and father. The rest of my family just aren't compatible with me at all, and I make no effort to change for them.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
I'm sorry but that does not apply to me at all. I only have a good relationship with a few members of my family, namely my mother and father. The rest of my family just aren't compatible with me at all, and I make no effort to change for them.
Really AM you are a fun guy. But you do things to keep that relationship don't you? Like visit them, talk to them, bring them things. Yes, slavery might be a bit too strong of a word for this situation, because you do that willingly and actually want to. But still you do those things spending you resources (even if it is just a time). Resources you had to gather less that willingly. That is what I am talking about. Or you just happen to be a perfect human that has no unwillingness in his life? Technically speaking it doesn't matter that you value your time spent with you parents\loved ones more, than what you had to do to get there. You still had to sacrifice something.
I think your talking some heavy semantics (thats probably not the right word...fuck its 4am almost, cut me slack ) here silent2. I do agree...but everyone is like that. And yes, I know thats your point. But I doubt AM doesn't realize it.
He knows. But he likes to be dramatic Slavery...lol I think of some guy being dragged down below deck and shackled to another...dude that rows the boat...fuck, I think its time to sleep in a few minutes...lol
I'm sorry but that does not apply to me at all. I only have a good relationship with a few members of my family, namely my mother and father. The rest of my family just aren't compatible with me at all, and I make no effort to change for them.
Really AM you are a fun guy. But you do things to keep that relationship don't you? Like visit them, talk to them, bring them things.
I actually think most of my non-nuclear family think of me as 'the bastard'. I just do not give a shit if they don't like me.
My parents I make an effort for because they give so much to me, emotionally, financially, domestically, that it is the least I can do to make time for them. It is hardly slavery when the relationship is mutual.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
Ok, ok it's semantics AM. Mutual relationship doesn't qualify as slavery (given that both parties consider it as such). Although if you would be a bit more egoistical you might view any small thing as slavery, as youth tend to do nowadays.
P.S. It's ~11am here. Gah some work must be done. Sleep tight SycoShaman.
Livings has became so easy that people really forget what it's all about.
Lets be clear about something, freedom from the responsibility of the daily grind is what allows your creativity to thrive.
Syco has an extremely well paid job, and I earn £200 a week (not much, but I can live off it) from doing fuck all because of a simple project of mine. Money is not really an issue for either of us. That is why we have time to consider the more important things in life.
silent2 wrote:
Ok, ok it's semantics AM. Mutual relationship doesn't qualify as slavery (given that both parties consider it as such). Although if you would be a bit more egoistical you might view any small thing as slavery, as youth tend to do nowadays.
P.S. It's ~11am here. Gah some work must be done. Sleep tight SycoShaman.
Thanks, you understand me.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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