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 Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 00:47 Post subject: Crackers |
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Im just trying to get an idea of how leet these ppl are? more specifically PC games, are these ppl in the top 10, 20, 30 percent of talented programers in the world.. whats the story? can anyone with a few years programming do it? clue me in here guys. This is just curiosity btw
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 05:00 Post subject: |
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Programming and cracking are two completely different mentalities. It certainly helps to have good programming knowledge to be a cracker, but it is not a necessary prerequisite. Cracking is just something completely different that you pick up over time.... there are no formal ways of learning it, unlike programming.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 06:37 Post subject: |
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Cracking is mostly about low level reverse engineering. Can't compare it with modern development/programming (which takes place on a much higher abstracted level).
Programming and reverse engineering are simply two different skills. Obviously a cracker need to know how to code in assembler and possibly some c/c++ to create loaders or similar.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th May 2009 18:13 Post subject: |
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And File Headers, and CRC checks, and Wrappers and.....
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 02:23 Post subject: |
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I have to add absolute PE knowledge (not just header, lol) and windows internals like APIs,process and memory function,initialization, the workings of usermode debuggers.
Keygenning also requires other fields of knowledge.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 04:23 Post subject: |
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How the hell is it a dying knowledge?
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 04:31 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | How the hell is it a dying knowledge? |
Because most of the best crackers are either busted or out of the game.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 04:33 Post subject: |
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There are others popping up all the time. And how do you know what happened and to whom ? Way to generalize. The crackers are the last to get busted, it's more risky to trade stuff and manage ftp topsites.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 05:24 Post subject: |
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Same happened with the new Securom. Darc0der bitchslapped Paul, and all scene groups started either using his cracks or imitating his method of cracking.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 06:05 Post subject: |
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Who the fuck is imitating his "method" ? The groups release rebuilt exes, most are squeaky clean.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 06:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 06:53 Post subject: |
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The disassemblies I've seen say so. Last I checked was Burnout 1.100 by BAT/RLD (I check only a few though)
If you question my knowledge, I can change your mind with one sentence (only through PM, I guarantee you'll open your eyes wide at the revelation)
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 07:17 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | If you question my knowledge, I can change your mind with one sentence (only through PM, I guarantee you'll open your eyes wide at the revelation) |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 11:27 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | There are others popping up all the time. And how do you know what happened and to whom ? Way to generalize. The crackers are the last to get busted, it's more risky to trade stuff and manage ftp topsites. |
beg to differ there, in operation fastlink we all got busted same day, different times...
and im sure similar happened on operation buckanneer etc...
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