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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 11:30    Post subject: Need advice for new monitor
So, need a new screen to go with my new gpu's (lol).

I'm currently on a stone age Acer X221W (which died 6 months after i bought it, rma'd it and they fixed it and it has worked now for .. 5+ years)

Anyway,

looking for Full HD, obviously (1920/1080 OR 1920/1200)

price shouldn't exceed 300€ (more or less anyway)

So, bring on those suggestions and experiences Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 11:34    Post subject:
Eizo FS2333 or Dell U2311/2312.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 11:55    Post subject:
thanks, the Dell once seems perfect for my needs Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 12:02    Post subject:
I have to note that the 2311 is the better one when compared to the 2312, so *if* you can still find that (there's some shops with old stock), go for it Smile

I would've put Dell's 2412 on the list, but when you go up in that price range the FS2333 is much better. It's an inch less, but a better monitor overall Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 12:19    Post subject:
yeah checked both, but the 2311 was only listed in 1 shop and there it was unavailable Smile

http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_246376.html

well "available on command" which can really mean anything, probably 4-8 weeks wait or something lol. Might gonna send them an email asking. But i don't expect them to answer "truthfully" lol. So many times i've heard "in a couple days" and then it became weeks or even months ^^.

oh and

https://www.gmce.ch/fr/453000454000/630183-p2311h-23in-widescreen-flat.html

"refurbished" and only 1 year warranty ^^ , yeah, i think i go with the 2312 lol.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 12:25    Post subject:
P2311 is something else anyway Very Happy

It's the U2311/U2312 you're looking for Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 12:28    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
P2311 is something else anyway Very Happy

It's the U2311/U2312 you're looking for Razz


yeah the DELL UltraSharp U2312HM

that one showed up just fine. But Dell 2311 only shows the one i linked above, so it's all moot anyway , since it's not even the right one ^^

https://www.digitec.ch/?param=toppreise&wert=225372

195€
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 12:49    Post subject:
Why not go for a gamble and order a QNIX QX2710? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 13:00    Post subject:
QNIX = 0 results.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 13:15    Post subject:
u2312hm


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 13:42    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
http://geizhals.at/de/asus-vg248qe-90lmgg001q022b1c-a891345.html

144hz + low latency + shit contrast + shit colours + shit black levels

Fixed it for you.

Sin317 wrote:
QNIX = 0 results.

The QNIX ones (and the other Korean el-cheapo of this range) you need to order from Amazon. They're IPS too (so image quality is good) and they can be "overclocked" to run at 100+ Hz. It's a bit of a gamble though as you get no pixel guarantee, it's an inferior quality panel and obviously warranty's a bit of a problem. Most annoyingly though, most of these come with just 1 input (DVI-DL) and lack an OSD entirely Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 13:42    Post subject:
Go for a dell, U2312HM or U2412HM depends on the size you are looking for.

http://www.amazon.de/Dell-UltraSharp-U2412M-Monitor-Reaktionszeit/dp/B005JN9310


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 13:53    Post subject:
I just got the Asus VS24AHL and it is super sexy.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-068-AS

It seems to be the same as the VS24AH-P, only with a much better stand.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:02    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Paintface wrote:
http://geizhals.at/de/asus-vg248qe-90lmgg001q022b1c-a891345.html

144hz + low latency + shit contrast + shit colours + shit black levels

Fixed it for you.

Sin317 wrote:
QNIX = 0 results.

The QNIX ones (and the other Korean el-cheapo of this range) you need to order from Amazon. They're IPS too (so image quality is good) and they can be "overclocked" to run at 100+ Hz. It's a bit of a gamble though as you get no pixel guarantee, it's an inferior quality panel and obviously warranty's a bit of a problem. Most annoyingly though, most of these come with just 1 input (DVI-DL) and lack an OSD entirely Razz


What about that Eizo 144Mhz 23.x inch screen then that was released a while back?
(VN instead of TN so that should be better or maybe it was called VA, I don't remember exactly, not IPS based though.)

Then again Eizo tends to carry a price premium though they also tend to be very good.
(This one wasn't that expensive though but it's a bit smaller as well.)


EDIT: Dell should be good of course, I've been looking at that 3014 one as a upgrade for when I have enough money left over, above 27 or maybe even 24 there's a pretty steep price increase though. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:04    Post subject:
yeah i think i'll go with the

DELL UltraSharp U2412M

I especially like it being 16/10 and not 16/9 and price is perfect @ 230ish €

edit : what bothers me tho, is the 8ms delay.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:11    Post subject:
Thats why I say You should NOT go with u24. Its not led backlight and its 16:10 which is actually worse imo.

I intentionally went with 16:9 u23 because everything is 16:9 nowadays. You would save Yourself a lot of black bars trouble by not going 16:10.
and u23 have better responses and almost no ghosting. Its among best ips for games


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:13    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Thats why I say You should NOT go with u24. Its not led backlight and its 16:10 which is actually worse imo.

I intentionally went with 16:9 u23 because everything is 16:9 nowadays. You would save Yourself a lot of black bars trouble by not going 16:10.
and u23 have better responses and almost no ghosting. Its among best ips for games


well the 2312 also has 8ms reaction time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:21    Post subject:
I know already which one i'm getting once my vacation money arrives in a couple of months (that is if nothing better is there at the time): https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/MX279H/

Price of this one is within your range over here.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:26    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
I know already which one i'm getting once my vacation money arrives in a couple of months (that is if nothing better is there at the time): https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/MX279H/

Price of this one is within your range over here.


now that is very interesting indeed. And only 240€ here. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:28    Post subject:
frameless my ass...


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:30    Post subject:
ohh and that asus dont have dvi.... tho there is a converter so thats ok


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:37    Post subject:
That video made my decision even more stable, defo can't go wrong with that one for it's price Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:42    Post subject:
yeah looks really like a good choice for me, too. 27", full HD, 5ms, IPS, 240€

unless someone comes with a better product/deal, i think i go with this one Smile

thanks saus.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:43    Post subject:
And 75Hz (at least, according to tweakers). But that might be only on lower resolutions or such bs.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 14:46    Post subject:
oh and bang and olufsen integrated speakers ^^
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 15:05    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
What about that Eizo 144Mhz 23.x inch screen then that was released a while back?

Way out of his price range. It's 120 Hz though, not 144 and most certainly not MHz Very Happy

And yes, a VA panel Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 15:06    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
What about that Eizo 144Mhz 23.x inch screen then that was released a while back?
(VN instead of TN so that should be better or maybe it was called VA, I don't remember exactly, not IPS based though.)

Then again Eizo tends to carry a price premium though they also tend to be very good.
(This one wasn't that expensive though but it's a bit smaller as well.)

It's a great monitor, except:
- 120, not 144
- Hz, instead of MHz
- VA not VN
Very Happy

But yeah, it is quite pricey, relatively speaking - expect to pay around 500€ for it...
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 15:15    Post subject:
how about :

ASUS VG27AH
27" TFT LCD, LED backlight, 1920x1080 pixel, 250 cd/m², 80000000:1, 5ms (g/g), DVI-D/2x HDMI, D-Sub (VGA) • speaker 6W • Energy Star, incl. 3D glasses

3d Smile

never seen one in action, so i'm intrigued lol.

http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_289735.html
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2014 15:24    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
how about :

ASUS VG27AH
27" TFT LCD, LED backlight, 1920x1080 pixel, 250 cd/m², 80000000:1, 5ms (g/g), DVI-D/2x HDMI, D-Sub (VGA) • speaker 6W • Energy Star, incl. 3D glasses

3d Smile

never seen one in action, so i'm intrigued lol.

http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_289735.html


It's passive 3D, so not Nvidia 3D thingy if gaming is what you are aiming at. In that case you will have to use 3rd party solutions to "convert" games to 3D or use the monitor's own built-in functions. Passive also runs at a lower resolution, but I am not sure how it will work out in games.
Perhaps it's also possible to somehow make Nvidia's solution work with it, but I don't know much about that.

Should be great for movies, if you are interested in that.
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