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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 17:36    Post subject:
It's a good thing I provided screen capture proof then, isn't it? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 17:37    Post subject:
Yes, yes, I'm not doubting you, I just wish I had any idea what makes your machine different.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 17:41    Post subject:
I have absolutely no idea but I'm definitely not the only one who has the games running fine. Try setting EE/IOP and VU "Clamping Mode" to Extra or Extra+Preserve Sign. I'm not, mine are all set to default, but it's worth a shot.

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Here's my exact copy of the emulator, along with all my INIs. No BIOS files included for obvious reasons. Just extract somewhere and don't forget to put the "PCSX2" folder into your MyDocs folder if that's where PCSX2 usually keeps settings.

http://www.mediafire.com/?a6z6ubat45tm94j
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 18:49    Post subject:
Thanks man, I'll give it a try when I get home.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 19:49    Post subject:
@Sabin,

I got my Dualshock 3 gamepad today and I'm trying to get it work but to no avail. I've watched the tutorial video 'how to' attach the pad to PC using the Motioninjoy tool. Is a bluetooth device necessary in order to get this thing work? I mean, can I use the charger/playing USB cable without bluetooth dongle. Confused


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 19:54    Post subject:
M4trix wrote:
I got my Dualshock 3 gamepad today and I'm trying to get it work but to no avail. I've watched the video 'how to' attach the pad to PC using the Motioninjoy tool. Is a bluetooth device necessary in order to get this thing work? Confused


Naw, just a USB cable (miniUSB to normal USB) --- it's really simple. Connect the controller, install the drivers, done. Really.

http://www.motioninjoy.com/wiki/en/install/latest

Congrats on getting your pad, just remember that to use the "360 pad" in supported games you'll have to select "360 Emulation Mode" and then "Enable" on each new boot, otherwise it will just work as a dpad+10button PC pad -- and you can even select PS2 setting for other games, etc. Just play around with it and you'll find modes that are comfortable for you Smile I use 360 mode 99.9% of the time, the only time I don't is when I want to play games that don't recognise the dpad as directional inputs instead of a hat switch.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 20:41    Post subject:
@Sabin,

my dear friend....ermm...cough.....I bought a wrong cable! I have this Venom Dual Charge & Play cable and the pad isn't recognized when using it. I already thought that something is wrong with the pad. Fortunately I have a cable which came with my camera and now the sucker is working ok. Thanks mate for those tips, gonna try it now with PCSX2.

*cough* btw, ....does someone want to buy a brand new Venom cabl.... oh fuck it! Laughing

this is the cable --> http://www.venomuk.com/products/for-use-with-ps3/dual-charge-and-play-cable.aspx


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 20:46    Post subject:
That's strange though, it should still work just fine as it really is just a USB cable as you can charge with a standard cable anyhow. Hell, aside from the "double" plug on that one, there's literally no point to it. Even a normal USB cable functions as a "play and charge" one on the PS3. Sounds like the "MONSTER!" HDMI cable scam all over again

Oh well, as long you've gotten it working now Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 20:56    Post subject:
Yea, it's strange. The cable is new, just got it out of the box. Tried both mini USB connectors, not working. It's not even charging the pad. Heck. Confused


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 21:06    Post subject:
I'd get your money back then, partner, as that sounds dodgy as fuck. A standard USB cable is all the PS3/controller needs and it "just works" Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I have absolutely no idea but I'm definitely not the only one who has the games running fine. Try setting EE/IOP and VU "Clamping Mode" to Extra or Extra+Preserve Sign. I'm not, mine are all set to default, but it's worth a shot.

~edit~

Here's my exact copy of the emulator, along with all my INIs. No BIOS files included for obvious reasons. Just extract somewhere and don't forget to put the "PCSX2" folder into your MyDocs folder if that's where PCSX2 usually keeps settings.

http://www.mediafire.com/?a6z6ubat45tm94j


Yours is a different revision. I downloaded mine from the PCSX2 website, and that one is 5350. That could be it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:02    Post subject:
Nope, like I said earlier; 1.0.0 and it worked. I've since updated to 5390 (the one I posted just) and it STILL works.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:16    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Nope, like I said earlier; 1.0.0 and it worked. I've since updated to 5390 (the one I posted just) and it STILL works.


And now there's something funny, just tested your copy of the emulator and it doesn't work. It's exactly the same as mine. I'm also using the 301.42 drivers, there's nothing different. Now I'm totally at a loss.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:24    Post subject:
There's definitely something bizarrely screwy going on here Neutral
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:45    Post subject:



There's what happens on mine. Your exact settings, your emulator, only changed the controls for my Xbox pad. You can see the camera doesn't target. Can't get past that door.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:55    Post subject:
I truly wish I could help you, but I'm totally at a loss. It works absolutely fine here, I have no issues at all and we're both using the same revision with the same files. I'm on Win7-x64 with an OCed i5-25k and a non-OCed GTX570. I also have MSI Afterburner running. That's about it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:59    Post subject:
Could it be the processor? I have an i7 930 and a GTX 580. I don't use this Afterburner though, but I doubt it has anything to do with this. It's just my luck, I guess, lol
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 00:00    Post subject:
I don't see why it would be the proc. I guess you could try disabling HyperThreading, since that's the only thing the i7 has that the i5 doesn't, but other than that? I just don't know what the hell is going on Neutral
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 00:11    Post subject:
I just posted a thread on the PCSX2 forums, maybe someone can think of something.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 00:15    Post subject:
update directx?
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 01:00    Post subject:
Okay, this is fucked up. I just installed CamStudio in order to record a quick movie, showing what settings I use and then playing the game to show the camera working --- and the camera STOPPED working..!! I think I know what's causing it! If I load the emulator in HW mode and play straight away, the camera doesn't focus or take proper gameplay shots ....... BUT!! If I press F9 to switch to Software on-the-fly and then press F9 to switch back to Hardware it works! ^_^

It's very, very temperamental though, now the ghost fights don't seem to have any images - even in SW mode. If I load PCSX2 without CamStudio recording, it works as-is, but if I load with CamStudio recording then I have to use the F9 switch trick. This is damned weird. Anyhow, I'm still working on getting a single recording done so you see it in action, but for now; when you get the first chance to use the camera, press F9 to switch to SW and then again to switch back. Cam should work fine after that.

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Okay, I made a vid and I'm uploading it to YT now but from what I've seen; Camstudio really seems to wreck this game -- when I'm NOT recording it works perfectly, as I showed you in my earlier screen shots, but when I AM recording it goes to hell and half the time it works.. half the time it doesn't. I have to constantly keep switching from HW to SW and back again to "refresh" and continue on, something I don't have to when running without recording. So anyway, if you're having trouble; try the F9 trick. See if that helps.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 17:49    Post subject:
I was quite excited to see SH Origins works perfect on PCSX2. That is, until I got to a dark area where you gotta use a flashlight. Then this happens Sad Sad Nooooooo. The graphics only works in dark areas if you switch to Software mode. But, in SW mode, if you have flashlight on, the game works at like 15 FPS. Only without flashlight it works at 60 in SW mode. Goddamn it.

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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 17:53    Post subject:
Ouch! The only info I can quickly dredge up is from the Wiki and it claims that if you set the "Game Fixes" preset to 2 (Safer) then it's 100% playable .. but it doesn't mention whether this is SW or HW. Rama, one of the main PCSX2 developers, said it was impossible to fix the flashlight on HW mode, only SW, but this was back in 2010.. so egh.. things might have changed.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 18:24    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ouch! The only info I can quickly dredge up is from the Wiki and it claims that if you set the "Game Fixes" preset to 2 (Safer) then it's 100% playable .. but it doesn't mention whether this is SW or HW. Rama, one of the main PCSX2 developers, said it was impossible to fix the flashlight on HW mode, only SW, but this was back in 2010.. so egh.. things might have changed.


Yeah that's what I did, set the preset to 2, but HW mod is still bugged, SW however, works just fine, although very low FPS with flashlight on. With flashlight off and SW mod turned on, the game runs perfect. Gah, gotta hate PS2 games that have some tricky bugs like this Very Happy Like Onimusha Dawn of Dreams that has that garbage graphics in menus, and no fix so far.

Edit: Someone commented this on YT: turn off your flashlight all times....and adjust the brightness on your monitor to high.or use skipdraw hack . set to 1. after hack you can turn on the flashlight. but the frame rate will shutter/ lag in certain areas.

Gonna try it out.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 18:31    Post subject:
I feel your pain, bro, really. I've waited years now for the chance to play my beloved Snowblind titles on PCSX2.. but it looks like it will simply never happen. The visual corruption makes playing the game impossible, both HW and SW mode, and even then you can only load the game if you disable MPEG movies via a hack since the game freezes during playback. Rama and Gabest both reckon it may never be fixed, the Engine/games use some pretty funky opcodes that are both undocumented and terrifically hard to emulate.

Even SONY can't emulate it, if you try and play the originals on a PS3 with half backwards compatibility support (such as the PAL launch models and the 80GB NTSC one, with the software Emotion Engine CPU and the hardware Graphics Synthesiser GPU) you get the same visual corruption -- although the movies do work.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 19:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I feel your pain, bro, really. I've waited years now for the chance to play my beloved Snowblind titles on PCSX2.. but it looks like it will simply never happen. The visual corruption makes playing the game impossible, both HW and SW mode, and even then you can only load the game if you disable MPEG movies via a hack since the game freezes during playback. Rama and Gabest both reckon it may never be fixed, the Engine/games use some pretty funky opcodes that are both undocumented and terrifically hard to emulate.

Even SONY can't emulate it, if you try and play the originals on a PS3 with half backwards compatibility support (such as the PAL launch models and the 80GB NTSC one, with the software Emotion Engine CPU and the hardware Graphics Synthesiser GPU) you get the same visual corruption -- although the movies do work.


Yeah, it sucks Sad I also wanted to play Syphon Filter games, but last time I tried them, they were working ~40FPS, and just couldn't get them to work 60. Btw, Skip Draw hack, where do I find that xD. I can't locate it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 19:11    Post subject:
SkipDraw Hack is located in the GSdx.ini file. It's the only hack not shown in the config menu, for some reason.

UserHacks_SkipDraw=0

Set to 1.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 19:18    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
SkipDraw Hack is located in the GSdx.ini file. It's the only hack not shown in the config menu, for some reason.

UserHacks_SkipDraw=0

Set to 1.


Thanks bud!
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 19:18    Post subject:
I've only finished 2 games with an emulator namely Person 3 and Persona 4 with PCSX2. Recommend some similar Story focused RPG's please?



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 19:33    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I'd get your money back then, partner, as that sounds dodgy as fuck. A standard USB cable is all the PS3/controller needs and it "just works" Smile


Well, I couldn't wait for the refund so I opened the splitter, threw away the faulty pcb inside and directly soldered wire to wire and the fucking cable is working now. Ofc, only one mini USB connector is usable which I don't mind cuz I'd use only one anyway. Smile


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