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Ok guys I'm trying to play BF2 1.50 and I can launch the game no problem join a server press "JOIN" then see the squad selection screen a bit of fighting in the background and then approximately 20 seconds later the game freezes for a just a sec then comes back fine then 10 seconds later the game crashes to desktop, same results launching the game normally or from within Steam. Will try a different server just in case that may have anything at all to do with it right...
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 11:31 Post subject: |
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Did you read what was recommended above?
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 11:35 Post subject: |
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By the way just looked at the overdrive page and my video card is not over-clocked the profiles don't work in the other application either its lame, and I just tried another BF2 server and it does the same thing - I tried two others and I'm crashing to desktop but I can play Bad Company 2 Beta for hours and hours no problems pretty effing weird...
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 11:39 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Did you read what was recommended above? |
yes...
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 11:55 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | Yeah that's clearly not due to the videocard then Ci2e haha |
Then what is it - weird all this starts after I change the video card - so how could it not be related to the video card?
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 12:39 Post subject: |
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I'm not playing favorites here if this isn't a video card/driver problem I don't know what the hell it is - and I've only been posting the truth about my problems not hiding anything - I just want the problems to go away!
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Feb 2010 15:01 Post subject: |
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format and put on newest drivers of everything to see if its a OS/driver related problem.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Feb 2010 03:13 Post subject: |
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new x86/x64 vista/w7 driver version 8.703
XP 8.703
These are the 10.2 RC drivers.
Planescape: Torment doesn't work properly with these drivers.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 07:56 Post subject: |
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It's funny how big a deal ATI drivers are. I have Nvidia and I rarely update (I just wanna see bigger version numbers)
I don't even have the latest drivers atm. All that ATI preview/beta/rc is ridiculous.
Also, is it really true that you can't have application settings/profiles ? So that your settings get used automatically according to the game you run ?
And lastly, what is that Catalyst AI thing all about ?
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 08:08 Post subject: |
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ATI drivers are considered to be somewhat behind NVIDIA drivers for compatibility with the latest titles (Aside from DX11 which ATI/AMD now heavily promotes.) and the CCC has a few bugs as well, especially for later hardware such as the 5000 series and the 5970 in particular it's quite important to update due to the so called "gray screen of death" due to a mistake with ATI's so called power saving feature or "powerplay" of those cards. (Similar to a driver crash but WDDM can handle those just fine in Vista and W7)
And yes there are game specific profiles but it can't be altered or accessed so in 10.2 or maybe 10.3 there will be a side profile file in some XML format or something and a editor but this is only for Crossfire compatibility as far as I've understood it.
(Some titles scale badly or incorrectly this should get around that issue.)
As for Catalyst AI the help file says it improves texture filtering methods and that advanced mode improves IQ a bit at the cost of performance but this is incorrect and what the old method of it was.
What it does is apply profile specific tweaks and optimizations (Detected via EXE name.) so that for example Crossfire scaling kicks in (Particularly on X2 like cards.) and that specific compatibility checks are used like no AA or Crossfire in Gothic 3, forcing AA in Oblivion or a number of UE3 titles and so on, advanced mode apparently also tries to optimize texture and shader calculations to improve performance but at a image quality loss although in most comparisons you won't see much of a difference.
(It also tries to force a sort of general AFR scaling for Crossfire under advanced mode.)
Updating to beta versions I'd recommend if they fix particular issues like the Mass Effect 2 profile addition in 8.69.1 (Hotfix 10.1 driver.) or the so called GSOD problem for ATI 5800 cards in 8.69.3 (Hotfix 2 for 10.1) but using leaked drivers like the Feb 13th 8.703. I wouldn't recommend and I'd recommend a clean uninstall and proper reinstall when updating from those to the official drivers.
NVIDIA solves this somewhat better by releasing many beta drivers between larger WHQL certified ones and also adds profile support (Mainly SLI) as a separate download and via EVGA's little SLI beta update program.
(As with ATI hotfixes are only for major problems or additions otherwise it's the usual one driver a month cycle so for recent titles you might have to wait upwards one and a half month for drive support and for not so common titles like say Divinity 2 or Venetica or more foreign titles in general there might never be a proper profile, six driver revisions ago there was finally a profile for the Gothic 3 expansion to use a example, heh not that many people liked that game or that it was all that popular but that's quite a delay for something that just copies the G3 profile to a new name.)
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 10:55 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | It's funny how big a deal ATI drivers are. I have Nvidia and I rarely update (I just wanna see bigger version numbers)
I don't even have the latest drivers atm. All that ATI preview/beta/rc is ridiculous.
Also, is it really true that you can't have application settings/profiles ? So that your settings get used automatically according to the game you run ?
And lastly, what is that Catalyst AI thing all about ? |
The fact that you don't update doesn't mean other NVIDIA users don't need it. NVIDIA releases just as many drivers (more in fact, they have a new beta every 2 weeks or so), also with game-specific enhancements and SLI profiles/fixes.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 13:37 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 14:28 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | I don't even have the latest drivers atm. All that ATI preview/beta/rc is ridiculous. |
Are you kidding me?????? Every week nvidia releases new alphas/betas/rc's/non-whql/whql-driver sets. ATI release drivers once a month unless there's a hotfix. The other versions leaks from devs/magazines.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 18:08 Post subject: |
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Nvidia does it too ? Well, their drivers are fine, thta's the difference. I couldn't care less if they release 1 driver set per year, everything runs fine. That's the difference.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 18:20 Post subject: |
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For non-crossfire cards, ATI drivers are also rarely in a need for replacing. You can go for months without replacing. The problems start when you need crossfire profiles, and it is exactly the same with nVidia SLI, with the only difference being you can create custom profiles - something that is about to get fixed.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 20:26 Post subject: |
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After checking the 8.70.3 drivers a bit more (Hex editing.) they appear to have profiles for Splinet Cell Conviction and Empires.2exe (Napolen Total War?) which might be the difference from the WHQL ones, probably a test driver for development use or something.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 20:55 Post subject: |
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Anyone know if the flickering and vertical stripe issues are solved with the latest drivers?
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 22:53 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | I get it from my own expeerience. You know : running everything fine and not having "vertical stripe issues" ! |
Never had that, even once. Overclocked my 5870 on the day that I got it. Haven't had any issue with any game so far either apart from the fact that some don't even come close to stressing the card, so come again?
| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | Now with these new drivers, go play the games you couldn't play before  |
I don't run Crossfire, so I don't need these new drivers for anything.
So again, what do you base the "ATI DRIVERS SUCK OLOLOL" on? Less acting as if you have a clue, while you don't really.
Yeah, some users had grey stripes and shit, but at least that's fixable by a driver, and caused by their own combination of hardware and software. My G80 and G92 chips breaking because they're shit chips couldn't be fixed by a driver unfortunately.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 23:06 Post subject: |
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Lulz, anyone remember the 8800GTX (G80) resistor bugs? That is not fixable by drivers. 
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 23:16 Post subject: |
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@ pwrelds
So you had 2 cards break on you and then bought a new one and overclocked it on the first day even though the games don't utilize it 100% ? High five !
Selfpwnage makes my job easier. 8xxx cards being shit is a fact,though. An old fact. I went from 7800gtx to gtx260 anyway. My old card still works fine btw.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 23:27 Post subject: |
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Well, I remember when that Splinter Cell game came out and it didn't support 8xxx, loool. Fail.
I will never let that happen to me. Ever.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Feb 2010 23:28 Post subject: |
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ehmm that was dev's fault, not nvidia's lol
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) because NVIDIA are dicks.
