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					|  Posted: Tue, 28th Sep 2004 12:08    Post subject: [DAMN]=- CDs get bad after some years -=[/DAMN] |  |  
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					| OK, I knew this would happen but it still hurts to find out that some of my older burnt CDs are no longer working.
It takes the drive ages to list the CD and reading the files gives errors.
 I lost mainly movies and old games/apps and stuff so the problem is in no way serious but still...
 Does anyone know whether this problem is typical for CDRs from let say four to five-ish years ago, or is the same going to happen with the CDR from now and how is this with DVDR?
 I wouldn't like to loose all my DVDR... on the other hand maybe i should consider buying the stuff that i like to keep... Groups have been urging me to do so for years now
   Anyway... any thoughts on this matter?
 
 
   " The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it... "
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					|  Posted: Tue, 28th Sep 2004 13:07    Post subject: |  |  
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					| I wouldn't know...al my cd's I've burned like 5 years ago I've thrown away I think.
My guess is that the quality of the CDRs has improved quite a bit and should have a longer lifespan.
 
 
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					|  Posted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 12:27    Post subject: |  |  
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					|  Posted: Fri, 26th Nov 2004 05:36    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Lifespan of ordinary CDs is reduced significantly if exposed to any
form of UV-Radiation (direct sunlight or if exposed long enough
 ordinary daylight maybe even monitor radiation) i read somewhere
 ages ago. In a other very interesting documentary about storage
 technology it was said that any conventional data storage tech
 availbable to home users does have a very low lifespan which can
 be less than 20 years easily. This means technically the world is
 heading for total information overkill , if the printed book or chemical
 film will be more and more supressed by digital data conservation.
 Digital data has to be migrated from old to new media types, systems
 etc. There is already a huge problem with old digital data or code
 that was using archaic machines or program languages (for instance
 the huge data archives the East German Secret Service collected over
 a period of nearly 40 years are almost impossible to decipher in modern
 days due to the lack of proprieatary hardware and people who understand
 the old techniques) . Transpond this to the future of current digital archivation methods and product standard lifecycles and you can imagine
 where the world is heading to if the lack of more reliable storage
 media / technologoy that will endure longer periods is not solved in a very
 near future.
 
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					|  Posted: Fri, 26th Nov 2004 19:35    Post subject: |  |  
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					| On the other hand, batteries are a much bigger problem. Just think of all my "toys" that will stop working after 2-3 years if I don't buy a battery that probably won't be available at that time.
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					|  Posted: Sat, 27th Nov 2004 19:28    Post subject: |  |  
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					| I was kinda worried obut my cds falling apart untill I read couple of things.
from Kodak;
 "The official position on the lifetime of KODAK Writable CD and Photo CD Media is "We predict the lifetime of KODAK Photo CD, and KODAK Writable CD Media with InfoGuard Protection System, under normal storage conditions in an office or home environment, should be 100 years or more." In our opinion, the official KODAK statement is well within the legitimate interpretation of this study. Under controlled conditions, our best estimate of the data life of these products is 217 years, which provides room to incorporate reasonable differences of opinion as to what constitutes "normal storage conditions."
 
 and TDK;
 "TDK rates the archival lifespan of its cyanine-based CD-R discs at 70 years (based on accelerated aging tests). This paper presents data that reflect TDK's decade-long research and development efforts in the field of optical recording media." .... " You'll notice that we specify our media for a lifespan of more than 70 years when stored at a temperature of 30° Centigrade -- about 86 ° Fahrenheit"
 
 So either way its a good idea to check and copy your cd's to a newer media after about 20-30 years.
 
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					|  Posted: Sat, 25th Dec 2004 18:42    Post subject: |  |  
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					| $50 for one CD-R?
 lmao.
 
 I hope it came with a certificate of authenticity, a big-assed box, and a personal message from God...
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					|  Posted: Sat, 25th Dec 2004 19:17    Post subject: |  |  
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					| They were really fucking expensive back then, and my CD-drive was external (SCSI) and cost a heapload of dough too.
 Yes, yes I'm back.
 Somewhat.
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					|  Posted: Sat, 25th Dec 2004 21:25    Post subject: |  |  
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					| i remember them beeing really expensive too. bruners were at horror prices too. stupid 1x burners hehe.
 jesus christ was a gangsta rapper. they killed him. he came back and made a platinum album.
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					|  Posted: Sat, 25th Dec 2004 22:48    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Aah... the good old days when it took a full hour to burn a full CD.
 Yes, yes I'm back.
 Somewhat.
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					|  Posted: Sun, 26th Dec 2004 00:53    Post subject: |  |  
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					|  	  | fisk wrote: |  	  | Aah... the good old days when it took a full hour to burn a full CD. | 
 
 The first CD I ever burned cost me $0 and came with an AOL logo. It was one of those...
 
 ... oh, THAT kind of burning
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					|  Posted: Sun, 26th Dec 2004 13:31    Post subject: |  |  
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					| hhmmm, my 5 year old or older CDR's / CDRWS and still working...
 George W Bush -
 
 '...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas.'
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					|  	  | Steve-O 2004 wrote: |  	  | hhmmm, my 5 year old or older CDR's / CDRWS and still working... | 
 
 same.
 
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