Buying DDR2-1066 4GB RAM, need opinion
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Psyclon.Thanatos




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 11:57    Post subject: Buying DDR2-1066 4GB RAM, need opinion
Was wondering for someone to take a look at these cause G.Skill is apparently good, but found a Corsair and OCZ for cheaper, but I'm a bit suspicious cause of OCZ's price

G.Skill (another g.skill), Corsair or OCZ, Thanks.


CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400 Black Edition (3.2GHz)
Mobo: ASUS M3N78-VM
RAM: OCZ Gold DDR2-1066 2x2GB
GFX: XFX Radeon HD 4890 1GB
Audio: VT1708B (Integrated)
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W
OS: Windows 7 (x64)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 12:04    Post subject:
I've got OCZ's Platinum, the model up from the Gold, at 1066 (declocked to 1000Mhz in order to sync with my CPU) and I simply cannot fault them. The price was fantastic and, so far, performance has been excellent.

If you really DO want the best though, I can't recommend G.Skill high enough. They are absolutely the best. Screw Corsair. The only decent stuff they make are PSUs now.

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Scratch that... stupid Sabin >_< That's NZD, my bad, was thinking of USD.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 15:41    Post subject:
Ill have to go with sabin on this one.. I used to use dominator ram but Im sure it just didnt like my main board or something..
Anyhow I switched to OcZ gold at the time due to it was on offer for like £34 for 4gb Smile, It was only 800mhz not the 1066, but didnt matter cause at 2.1v and its standard timings it overclocks to 990 without any problems..

So I am quite impressed with OcZ ram..
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 16:10    Post subject:
I have OCZ Reaper 2x2gb and they are ridiculously perfect !

I did a benchmark with a friend who has a better PC overall, but in the memory tests he got destroyed. Also, they look uber-cool and unique, they're like rare unlockables in games, you know ?

Just make sure there's no space problem on your mobo, because of the extra heat dissipation l33tness on top of them.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_reaper_hpc_edition
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 16:33    Post subject:
I switched from Corsair to 2x2GB OCZ Reapers and they're ridiculously great for the price.


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KrAzY-KaMeL




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 18:50    Post subject:
I'm pretty sure that most of the companies that slap heat-spreaders on the memory chips don't manufacturer the ram so I'd look into where some of them source their memory from.

Secondly, supposedly when you pay for brand name/high quality memory it's suppose to have gone through tighter quality control and tougher testing to ensure it meets the requirements necessary to run the advertised speeds. So technically you're getting the higher binned chips.

But at the same time I've had lots of instances where bargain bin stuff has OC'd more than any of the name brand stuff. Take the D9's in my computer now for example.

As of right now, the way I look at it is - Memory is Memory. Given how cheap and disposable DDR2 has become (and soon DDR3) I honestly wouldn't care but to get the cheapest sticks possible unless having a 1:1 FSB/Memory divider is a priority in your high OC.
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 20:18    Post subject:
Hey, aren't you the guy that buys a new PSU every month ?

Anyway, the OP wants to buy some quality/reliable/overclockable memory. Their prices are looowww, no need to buy some shitty brand when you can buy the best there is (ocz,gskill etc)

But you go ahead ...
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KrAzY-KaMeL




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 20:50    Post subject:
Were you referring to me?

If so, did you read a single word I said?
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Psyclon.Thanatos




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 22:31    Post subject:
Cool, didn't really think of it that way (they just slap the heat-spreader on), and he could be referring to me, my Cooler Master PSU, I've never really trusted, then recently it kept overheating, so I replaced it with my backup, same brand but newer, I had trouble in the past with it (Fan chipped on the bottom so it wobbled, therefore didn't cool well) so have asked for good PSU brands in both instances just to be sure but never get round to saving up for a new PSU Razz.

Anyway, I just thought the OCZ Ram was a bit cheap, so wasn't sure whether it was worth it or they were just trying to make a quick buck, thanks for all the input, appreciate it.


CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400 Black Edition (3.2GHz)
Mobo: ASUS M3N78-VM
RAM: OCZ Gold DDR2-1066 2x2GB
GFX: XFX Radeon HD 4890 1GB
Audio: VT1708B (Integrated)
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W
OS: Windows 7 (x64)


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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 22:31    Post subject:
Yeah, I read what you wrote. What the fuck do you mean "splat ..." ? Do you have anything against heat-spreaders ? Oh, maybe yours don't have any, so you don't like them.

Almost every piece of electronics gets manufactured elsewhere, that doesn't say anything about quality. Quality brands make a name due to their overall quality.

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As of right now, the way I look at it is - Memory is Memory.Given how cheap and disposable DDR2 has become (and soon DDR3) I honestly wouldn't care but to get the cheapest sticks possible unless having a 1:1 FSB/Memory divider is a priority in your high OC.

Are you crazy ? Memory quality matters to speed and stability. Jesus, way to generalize. Memory is memory, lol. Yeah, and cpu is cpu, gpu is gpu.

Also, you didn't answer my question. If you're the guy that changes PC parts every week then it all makes sense. We don't all want a junkyard PC. Laughing

P.S.: I've never changed my memory on any of my PCs , only added.
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 23:58    Post subject:
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I'm pretty sure that most of the companies that slap heat-spreaders on the memory chips don't manufacturer the ram


Actually they buy the chips, sort them after testing/binning and manufacture the actual cards that the chips are machine soldered to, so there's more to it than just slapping chips onto a RAM-card (quality of on-board voltage selector, SPD data (Jedec, EPP), quality of the design etc.)


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Newty182




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009 01:41    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
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I'm pretty sure that most of the companies that slap heat-spreaders on the memory chips don't manufacturer the ram


Actually they buy the chips, sort them after testing/binning and manufacture the actual cards that the chips are machine soldered to, so there's more to it than just slapping chips onto a RAM-card (quality of on-board voltage selector, SPD data (Jedec, EPP), quality of the design etc.)


Thats what i thought too.

Buying cheap memory is a very bad idea.


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TCell4Victory




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009 03:31    Post subject:
damn these are expensive in the usa?

Cosair 36 E atm
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Arbeitsspeicher_DDR2-1066/Corsair/DIMM_4_GB_DDR2-1066_Kit/292096/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Arbeitsspeicher&l2=DDR2&l3=DDR2-1066

G.Skill 40 E atm

http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Arbeitsspeicher_DDR2-1066/G.Skill/DIMM_4_GB_DDR2-1066_Kit/330862/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Arbeitsspeicher&l2=DDR2&l3=DDR2-1066

OCZ Reaper 40 E atm

http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Arbeitsspeicher_DDR2-1066/OCZ/DIMM_4_GB_DDR2-1066_Kit/250341/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Arbeitsspeicher&l2=DDR2&l3=DDR2-1066

me tending to G.Skill and Geil or Crucial ram because i never had problems with these and always bad luck with OCZ never used Cosair because they were always expensiver than other good ones in my past...

OCZ Platinum Low-Voltage 6GB Kit DDR3 PC3-12800 49 E atm

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/1300117_-platinum-low-voltage-6gb-kit-ddr3-pc3-12800-ocz3p1600lv6gk-cl7-ocz.html


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KrAzY-KaMeL




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009 04:37    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Yeah, I read what you wrote. What the fuck do you mean "splat ..." ? Do you have anything against heat-spreaders ? Oh, maybe yours don't have any, so you don't like them.

Almost every piece of electronics gets manufactured elsewhere, that doesn't say anything about quality. Quality brands make a name due to their overall quality.

Quote:
As of right now, the way I look at it is - Memory is Memory.Given how cheap and disposable DDR2 has become (and soon DDR3) I honestly wouldn't care but to get the cheapest sticks possible unless having a 1:1 FSB/Memory divider is a priority in your high OC.

Are you crazy ? Memory quality matters to speed and stability. Jesus, way to generalize. Memory is memory, lol. Yeah, and cpu is cpu, gpu is gpu.

Also, you didn't answer my question. If you're the guy that changes PC parts every week then it all makes sense. We don't all want a junkyard PC. Laughing

P.S.: I've never changed my memory on any of my PCs , only added.


The only time higher binned/priced memory chips play any significant role is when you're desire is to Overclock. Understand what I said within the context of what I wrote. Memory is CHEAP, if you're trying to build a rig buy the cheapest priced crap you can find. Otherwise if you need the headroom for overclocking grab something with a higher price tag.

Otherwise, Memory is Memory. You can't go wrong in today's memory market given the prices.

Quality brands make a name due to marketing and bullshit which is where all the brand whoring originates from. Take a look at some of the bigger name PSU manufacturers. You don't judge quality based on a badge/name. LoL @ "Memory Quality." I think you're living in PC publication world.

And please redirect your bullshit comments some where else. I have no idea what you're even referring to but you continue to make smart ass comments.


EDIT: Take Dell for example, for the most part they use Corsair Value select that are de-badged. Sometimes other stuff and all their pre-builts are chugging along till this day. All the ones we build at my work get $10 memory sticks for the average home user based customer. Why do they need to spend 4x that amount for tighter timings/speed when the difference in desktop performance pre DDR3 is negligible?
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Psyclon.Thanatos




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Mar 2009 10:09    Post subject:
Don't bother with OCing at the time being but am aiming for future proof RAM, who knows what the future holds I might start OCing, also don't have an AM2+/AM3 CPU so aren't expecting it to go full speed, just as mentioned, getting DDR2-1066 cause my mobo has AM2+ socket and will eventually get Phenom II x3 when it comes out here in the future, and every time I see a Dell advert it kinda makes me question why people bother, for simple task computer I guess, but the information is so minimal, they never bother with what gfx etc, oh well, thanks for assistance, think I might get the OCZ Gold this week as it is the cheapest, and isn't Corsair but will still consider G.Skill, thanks again for the help, appreciated.


CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400 Black Edition (3.2GHz)
Mobo: ASUS M3N78-VM
RAM: OCZ Gold DDR2-1066 2x2GB
GFX: XFX Radeon HD 4890 1GB
Audio: VT1708B (Integrated)
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W
OS: Windows 7 (x64)
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