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| sabin1981 wrote: | | I'm just sick of companies hyping their game like it's the best thing in the world ... and then going silent for over a year before they finally release the damn thing. |
I dunno...Offset was never really out there hyping the game on their own, much. They haven't been in people's faces going on about how it will be the best game on earth or anything. They've been fairly modest, I'd say.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2008 21:38 Post subject: |
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I'm also referring to the myriad trailers that always appear 12-18 months before the game. It's insulting and it's aggravating.
Just look at games like White Gold and Mercenaries 2. WG was supposed to be out early LAST YEAR. Merceneries 2 also had a Q2-2007 release date. How about Prototype? Announced for release last year, now due out NEXT year. Deus Ex 3? Not due out for at least another YEAR. Splinter Cell Conviction? Trailer after trailer after trailer, due for release 2007.. now CANCELLED and taken back to the drawing board.
If you like, I'm sure I could list another 20 games, at least, that have been advertised repeatedly -- and then left for years on end before release. It's insulting.
It's just a cheap and nasty trick to increase demand and gain free publicity. For that reason alone, I refuse to take part in it -- and WILL pirate those games.
(except Mercs2, as I've already got a 360 preorder going)
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2008 21:49 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | Deus Ex 3? Not due out for at least another YEAR. |
Deus Ex 3 only had a small teaser trailer as far as I can recall. But I agree with your point. |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2008 22:01 Post subject: |
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2008 22:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2008 23:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2008 23:36 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | I'm also referring to the myriad trailers that always appear 12-18 months before the game. It's insulting and it's aggravating. |
It's like this for most games, and quite a few movies, as well. We get teaser posters two years in advance, sometimes. Is it really that painful to know about something in advance? There is plenty else to enjoy in the meantime...
| Quote: | | Just look at games like White Gold and Mercenaries 2. WG was supposed to be out early LAST YEAR. Merceneries 2 also had a Q2-2007 release date. How about Prototype? Announced for release last year, now due out NEXT year. Deus Ex 3? Not due out for at least another YEAR. |
Um, games getting delayed is unavoidable, in many cases. It's not hype-building; it's delaying games, when they need extra work.
| Quote: | | Splinter Cell Conviction? Trailer after trailer after trailer, due for release 2007.. now CANCELLED and taken back to the drawing board. |
Trailer after trailer after trailer? Excuse me? They did one single teaser trailer, dude.
| Quote: | | If you like, I'm sure I could list another 20 games, at least, that have been advertised repeatedly -- and then left for years on end before release. It's insulting. |
It's insulting, that games are sometimes delayed so that they can attempt to be reach the quality that is expected? I'd say that's a hell of a lot more respectful and considerate, than releasing an unfinished game that hasn't been in the oven long enough to reach it's potential. Miyamoto famously said that a delayed game is eventually released, but a bad game is bad forever. Which would YOU rather have?
| Quote: | | It's just a cheap and nasty trick to increase demand and gain free publicity. For that reason alone, I refuse to take part in it -- and WILL pirate those games. |
So, you pirate games because they are announced far in advance?
That one of the worst fucking excuses I have ever heard. There is absolutely NO merit in that. There is simply no justifying or defending that mindset.
| sabin1981 wrote: | I'm a Heroes man  |
Cause they totally don't hype up Heroes way in advance. 
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 01:23 Post subject: |
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Awww, did I hurt your poor ickle feelings?
Why such an annoyed reply, hmm? I'm entitled to my opinions, whether you like it or not.
1. I *know* we get posts and trailers in advance. I dislike it. Deal with it, this is personal preference. My annoyance is that these "advance" posters are becoming more and more "in advance" -- to the tune of YEARS now, rather than months.
2. Delayed? Bullshit. Most of these games aren't delayed due to quality control, they're delayed because the dev-team couldn't get their shit together properly.
3. A lone teaser trailer, really? Wrong. There was TWO teasers and a dev-walkthrough.
4. Again, these aren't delayed. I'm not talking solely about DELAYS, I'm talking about pre-release hype -- only, in most cases, this pre-release hype happens a YEAR before release. Again, personal preference that I don't like it. Stop crying about my opinions because you damn sure aren't going to change them.
5. I pirate THESE games because I dislike having a game dangled on the end of a hook .. and then whipped away when I get excited about them. As I said, which you conveniently ignored, it's a cheap trick to drum up hype and desire.
6. They do? Really? Odd, I don't recall any "way in advance" hype about Heroes. Now you're just trolling. There has been ONE teaser, released three months ago, and one full trailer - released last month.
Stop trolling.
Oh and before anyone thinks I'm needlessly flaming, I'm not. I'm just sick of having people think they've got the right to challenge and debate MY opinions. They're just opinions and nobody has the right to begrudge them or attempt to change them.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 05:06 Post subject: |
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He's not trolling. His explainations are reasonable while your justification for pirating and entire outlook on pre-release trailers seem absurd.
"In my opinion", Of course.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 05:14 Post subject: |
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Who the fuck are you to tell me MY opinions are absurd?
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 05:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 05:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 05:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 07:11 Post subject: |
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i don't think that this game will see daylight..it was kind of imprresive show few years ago..2004 or 2005, but since then, no new's, this must be from duke nukem family 
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 21:34 Post subject: |
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I go more far, im against any teaser, trailer, poster and anything that means promove hype, before, after or in the release of the game, movie, or audiovisual product. The point of my absurdous proposal lie in that kind of advertisements wreck my game, movie, experience. Seriously.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack newbies on fire off the shoulder of NFOrce. I watched VIP members glitter in the dark near the PC Gamers forum. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 21:37 Post subject: |
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I tend to avoid trailers of movies, because they often give away the best parts of said movie -- same reason why I'll ignore "making of" featurettes.
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 21:37 Post subject: |
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Im all for the hype, hate then a game comes out, it's there for a few hours but the hype can be there for years and keep you feel good.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 21:45 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | I tend to avoid trailers of movies, because they often give away the best parts of said movie -- same reason why I'll ignore "making of" featurettes. |
You saw the trailer of "The isle"? well i was in the cinema watching some other movie, and the trailer come out... that fucking trailer was a resume of WHOLE FILM!. Years later, i finish seeing the same trailer with a few more extension, was the MOVIE.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack newbies on fire off the shoulder of NFOrce. I watched VIP members glitter in the dark near the PC Gamers forum. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2008 21:49 Post subject: |
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| Joe Potato wrote: |
You saw the trailer of "The isle"? well i was in the cinema watching some other movie, and the trailer come out... that fucking trailer was a resume of WHOLE FILM!. Years later, i finish seeing the same trailer with a few more extension, was the MOVIE. |
Aye, tell me about it! Goddamn trailers 
| Karmeck wrote: | | Im all for the hype, hate then a game comes out, it's there for a few hours but the hype can be there for years and keep you feel good. |
I don't mind hype, please don't get me wrong. I just don't like the current trend of hyping, or releasing trailers for, games that aren't even due out for another year. I hate it.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 04:01 Post subject: |
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Acquired by Intel? One year ago? 
| Quote: | It's been a year now that the Offset team has been at Intel.
At the start of last year, our little company was acquired, and we have since relocated to northern California. Since then, we have been making great progress on our game (still codenamed "Project Offset").
Being at Intel has allowed us access to a pool of resources we couldn't have dreamed of when we were an independent game developer. In the upcoming months you'll be seeing some of the results of this in the form of various media we'll be releasing on the site. And of course, eventually you'll see those results in the game itself.
Even though we're part of a much bigger company now, we still operate in a very independent way. We make all our own technical and creative decisions. For a team like ours, it's really an ideal situation. We don't have to deal with a publisher, which means all of the decisions we make are for the good of the game, not just to meet that next milestone payment.
We have been rather quiet during the past year, hard at work, but you'll be seeing much more from us in the upcoming months. Stay tuned. |
Source
Also, new video (supposedly in engine): http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/312154.html
Notice the "Project Offset will be launching alongside Intel's Larrabee late this year to early next." 
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 04:05 Post subject: |
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Is larrabee the raytracing chip? If it is, the game is probably going to be a hype machine for how awesome intel's new tech is. I'm so tired of that kind of hype :/.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 04:08 Post subject: |
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Well, considering DX11 has removed ray-tracing support, I doubt it. But I won't be surprised if it is heavily "optimized" for Intel in the following method:
| Code: | if(platform == Intel)
runAt(60fps);
else
runAt(Math.Random(10,22)); |
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 04:15 Post subject: |
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Working for Intel ? They're probably fetching coffees or cleaning the toilets. What did they put in their resume ? "Experienced vaporware developer" ?
And that trailer made me yawn. Hope they do better at the next one in a year or so.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 04:25 Post subject: |
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is this game ever going to come out?
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 08:49 Post subject: |
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| gingerninjaaaaaa wrote: | | is this game ever going to come out? |
No.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 09:25 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | gingerninjaaaaaa wrote: | | is this game ever going to come out? |
No. |
Smug.
There is no reason to believe that it will never be released. The developers just renovated their website, and mentioned a release date of late this year or early next year.
It's obvious now that Intel will position this to promote their Larrabee GPUs. They have a lot invested in this game.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 13:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 13:32 Post subject: |
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well at least we know they are still working on it
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 13:42 Post subject: |
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| Cedge wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: | | gingerninjaaaaaa wrote: | | is this game ever going to come out? |
No. |
Smug.
There is no reason to believe that it will never be released. The developers just renovated their website, and mentioned a release date of late this year or early next year.
It's obvious now that Intel will position this to promote their Larrabee GPUs. They have a lot invested in this game. |
Thats website sux shit man , it lags like fuck my comp .
[spoiler][quote="SteamDRM"]i've bought mohw :derp: / FPS of the year! [/quote]
[quote="SteamDRM"][quote="b0se"]BLACK OPS GOTY[/quote]
No.[/quote][/spoiler]
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2009 14:17 Post subject: |
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| GeForce8 wrote: | | Thats website sux shit man , it lags like fuck my comp . |
Do I have a sign on me that says "Offset Software Complaints Department"?
For what it's worth, I liked their old site a lot better.
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