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_SiN_
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 Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 09:22 Post subject: I hate kids |
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Yep, I honestly do.
Whenever i hear some screaming, bitchy little fucking kid i remind myself to never fucking have one.
The worst ones are the ones who really, really get into it - screams as if there was no tomorrow, and the only way to save the goddamn fucking planet was to scream as loudly as possible.
I hate crying kids, can't stand it for 2 minutes. I hate kids running around stores like it was some playground (that happened just yesterday).
Kids who never ever listen to their parents. Though, alot of times it's the parents' fault to begin with.
And speaking of parents, let's see if any of you experienced this.
My dad sells ATVs, snowmobiles, motorcycles etc etc, and also all the outerwear you'll ever need. For winter, for hunting, protective gear - anything. So, it often happens that a mom, with kid, comes in to buy something. And then we get to witness firsthand what bad parenting is. The kid starts climbing on a ATV for example. A brand new one, standing there for DISPLAY. Now, what do the parents do? Ofcourse they let the little brat do what he wants, climbing all over the thing, nicely scratching the plastic with his shoes - and if it's winter - getting sand and snow on it. So if my dad for example sees this, he tells the kid to get off immediately. What do the parental unit do? Asks if there's one he CAN climb all over.. 
And sometimes, they just let the kid go as soon as they step inside - let him run around while they look at clothes or whatever. Fuck, take care of your goddamn spawn!
My mom experiences the SAME thing! She owns two toy stores - you can figure out how many kids come to them every day...
And there again - some little shit starts playing with some of the stuff they get ahold of. And sure, you can't blame them really, its a toystore! But what do you think the parents do? NOTHING! They just let them toy around with the shit that's supposed to be sold to people who actually BUYS the shit! What, does everything need to be put in a goddamn glass box? Fucking lame ass parents who can't handle their kids. And then they complain when they don't listen to them and goes against them. Well i fucking wonder why!
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 09:57 Post subject: |
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I dont hate kids. I love kids. Of course your going to experience temper tantrums and such but thats part of it. My niece and nephews bring a ton of joy to my life. I love spending time with them.
Who you should be mad at is the parents. Parents nowadays are afraid to hit their kids. I dont mean beat them. But when they are young, spank em. When they are older, slap em. Obviously not hard enough to do damage just enough so they know who's boss.
Cuz my niece and nephews never give me trouble cuz they know I will disipline them. They give their parents a ton of shit, but not me. My brother even asks me why its so.
And take my niece, she's 11 or 12. She knows all the curse words. But when she says something like "shit" or something, her parents go off the deep end (cause its a 'sin').
When she's with me, she can swear all she wants. But ive made it clear that you dont swear infront of adults or ppl like that. And she loves boys and her parents havent had the 'sex' talk with her and she's 12. I lost my virginity when I was 12. So i thought I would have the talk with her.Cause her parents argument is "What would Jesus say?" 
So she knows all about sex and she's like me, she's matured very early...both physically and mentally. So I told her, swear with your friends if you want, swear with me cuz I dont care, but dont swear infront of ppl who still think its a 'sin' or adults. And especially, when she gets to highschool, dont swear infront of boys....a girl that curses every other word isnt attractive. She can swear a bit, but not like trucker ya know?
As for the sex talk, I told her all about boys cuz she told me she wants to try sex. And I explained to her all the dangers. And then I explained to her the way things work in Highschool. You sleep with one guy and the next day everyone knows and your a 'whore'. So I explained to her there are other ways to pleasure yourself...and she knew what I was talking about. She double clicks her mouse (me and her a very close and there are no secrets between use and she tells me everything, stuff she wouldnt tell anyone cuz she looks up to me kinda like an older brother and see's the difference between me and my brother....he's a fuckin geek where im the cool "uncle" ya know?)
Ive explained to her all about boys in highschool and even the boys who are trying to get into her pants in elementary school. And while she wants to try it, she doesnt want to be called a whore or anything like that.
So I told her, wait till your atleast 16 and then, dont have sex with someone just because he's 'hot'. If she has a bf and theyve been dating ffor a while, then I gave her my permission to make love, not sex (also described the difference). But I told her I'd prefer it if she waited till she was 18. But she said and promised she wont till she's atleast 16 after I explained everything to her. She's really smart and already she's a super hottie (not saying that cuz she's my niece but she's hot and by the time she's 16 she's gunna have all boys chasing after her).
I explained how boys at that age want to do nothing but have sex and dont really want to be in a romantic relationship etc and she understandds, i made sure, trust me.
Anyway, we talked about this subject for a while.
And my point is, its the parents who determine how their kids act. Not the kids.
So if anyone is to blame, its the parents. And trust me, smacking really works.
I hate this 'politically incorrect' shit about smacking/disiplining your child. Its bullshit. When I was a kid and did something really bad, I got the belt. I knew from then on not to do it ya know?
This "timeout" shit doesnt work for tweens and teens.
Call me old school, but it works.
Well, my 2 cents 
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 10:35 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | I can agree that they need some form of discipline, and if that means some slaps then i think that in some cases it's needed. As long as you don't solve everything with violence or the fear of it. I THINK it can make some people violent later in life. But i guess you have to, as you say, not BEAT them, more like showing who's in charge when they're young..
I know the screaming and crying and all that is part of it - i still hate it. I rarely find kids cute, actually. I almost never find them funny either.
It's great that you have that relationship with your niece, but i'd rather be without. Not all people love and have kids |
I can feel that bro.
But have you ever been around kids? And Im not talking brothers and sisters.
Kids can provide so much happiness and joy man. You wouldnt believe it until you've experienced it.
When my niece or nephews see me and run up to me and kiss me and tell me they love me, its the best feeling in the world.
And when kids say they love you, they really really mean it.
Not like when your in your teens or early to mid 20's and your in a relationship for say 3-6 months and your gf tells you "I love you baby"....its not love. Rather, its the only way they know how to express how much they care about it.
When a kid (obviously family) tells you they love you, its very special.
I love my niece and nephews so much man and when Im blue and I go see them and they cheer me right up.
When your older, I suspect your views will change. Children are what life is all about. A child's love is unconditional - they dont love you cuz your good looking or have money or whatever. They love you because you treat them well and are nice to them and other reasons I dont understand.
Kids are the joy of life man.
Like I said, you've prolly never been close to a child. If you have a sister or brother and when you become an uncle, your views will change. I hated kids before my niece was born. But when I held her 2 hours after she was born and she grabbed my finger and made this little cute noise....I completely fell in love.
And man, my 1st nephew who's 5 (have 2) sends me homemade (he makes em) xmas cards everday (my brother drops em off. He puts tons of effort into them just for me. And he has 2 other uncles who he doesnt talk about or do drawings for. I have a whole box of drawings and cards from him...all of which say "I Love You Uncle Raine. Your The Best and I'll always love you". Of course he doesnt write but he tells his mom or dad what to write.
My 12 year old niece does the same thing. And again, her other 2 uncles dont even get shit.
And my lil nephew (he's a toddler) is so precious. Like say we have a family gathering (bday party or something) one of his other uncles will pick him up and he start balling saying "Uncle Raine, get me get me" so I'll hold him and he have a big smile on his face and hug me tightly and say "Love You Uncle Ray" (thats what he calls me).
Dude, thats the best feeling in the world.
Kids can be annoying, but it doesnt compare how awesome they can make you feel and how much happiness they can bring you.
I love those kittle guys so much. They truly make me happy...and they arent even my kids lol
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 10:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 11:59 Post subject: |
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Kids are great if they are educated right, my friend has a little one and its the cutest thing you ever saw, she never throws a terror tantrum, she's quiet but extremely smart, its basically a dream kid, but its all up to the parents, teach them wrong and you have bitchy ass kids who start crying the moment shit doesn't go their way. Moral of the story, kids are not to blame, dumb parents are.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 12:09 Post subject: |
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Kids are great if they are your own.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 12:55 Post subject: Re: I hate kids |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | | Fuck, take care of your goddamn spawn! |
Fucking priceless.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 13:17 Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | | Kids are great if they are your own. |
Naw man
I love my niece and nephews as if they were my own and so much more. They are the best. I could have the worst day and all I have to do to cheer up is go see my niece and 1st nephew and right away im in a good mood.
But if you mean other ppl's kid's...as in friend's kids or stranger's kid's....then I agree |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:02 Post subject: |
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Yeah that's what I mean. The kids we see being annoying devils in grocery stores or any other random soccer mom location are the ones that bother/annoy because you are not involved in parenting/guiding them. When it's a family related kid that's a different story.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:12 Post subject: |
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It's when they get to a particular age that the majority become arrogant little shits. I'd say from about 12-18 (although it varies) is when they are at their most annoying.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:19 Post subject: |
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Id say 6-10 is the worst age for boys...
And 12-16 is the worst for girls...
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:38 Post subject: |
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12-99 you mean 
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 18:33 Post subject: |
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I was dating this girl for 2 years and she had a son (age 3 when I started dating her) that suffered from autism. So you can imagine the frustration there. He could barely communicate anything, so when something bothered him (and everything bothered him because he just didn't understand what was going on most of the time) he would react in the only manner he knew how: scream and cry a lot.
Even then, he was a hilarious kid and he did the most peculiar things, when he was in a good mood he was awesome to be around.
Obviously I'm not with her anymore, being my ex and all. But I do miss him sometimes, he was a great kid. Kids are awesome.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 18:47 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | Id say 6-10 is the worst age for boys...
And 12-16 is the worst for girls... |
you got that right. 12 year old girls are.....a handful i guess.
Like my niece, she wants to wear thongs and mini skirts and high heels and halter tops (she has B cup tits for shit shakes and she's 12! Gunna have to have a good talk with all her boyfriends until she's 1 .
My sister in law has no problem with it but she's an ex whore herself right.
So me and my brother told my niece, NO FUCKIN WAY. Cant wear thongs or mini (or micro mini's) till shie's 18.
See, she wants to wear them cuz her fav pop singers wear them but she doesnt realise the sexual aspect of clothing like that ya know? And when you try to explain it to her, she says "No, its just underwear, god".
Only dresses she's allowed to wear are ones that come down to just above her knee. Nothing shorter. And panties, only normal ones.
No way my niece is being taken advantage of by some horny tween/teen....cuz then I'd have to hurt the fuckin guy lol
She already knows, before she goes out on a date till she's 18, me and my brother have to meet her date before she's allowed to go out. And Im gunna scare the piss outta him so he doesnt think of trying to touch her or get in your pants. Kissing is fine...but thats as far as it goes ya know?
Come to think of it, I think i gotta have a talk with her about this....well, guess I got a date with her on the weekend when her brother comes over to play videogames with me (5 years old and he's AWESOME at vid games).
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 18:50 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | | Yeah, around 6/7 to maybe 13 is the ones i find the most annoying. 14-18 is another level of annoying, but people can also vary from being very very mature to just dumb fucking idiots |
Depends on the girl man. Some are mature and level headed.
Some are fuckin stush bitches
I wont lie, my niece is kinda stush. She's the hottest girl in her school, she looks like she's 14 or so, she endowed well for her age....but she's smart and knows martial arts (been teaching her since she was 6). |
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 00:35 Post subject: |
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The child's behavior simply isn't their fault. The type of person and their behavior they have all reflect on their early childhood. It is normal for children 1-3 to throw temper tantrums and act out which is commonly called the terrible 2's which my son is in at the moment. This is where they learn if they can behave in such a manner or not.
My son is in this stage and he is a angel compared to every other child that was in my life around his age. I don't hit him or even yell at him. I always tell him no and to stop in a loving voice and give him a hug and this normally ends the problem after he is comforted. When I talk to him I always go down to his level and do so and look him in the eyes and he always pays attention to me. I am teaching him that this behavior is unacceptable and doing so through a loving and calming manner unlike most parents whom either neglect or hit/abuse their child and I must say my method is by far more effective.
My sister in law has four sons and let me tell you I have wished at times that I could have murdered them at times and just called it a late term abortion. One time I was out to get Little Caesars pizza in the drive through and the nine year old at the time starts screaming "I'm hungry" over and over again at the top of his lungs while we were going to be eating in literally a minute. This is a freaking nine year old we are talking about. But I came to realize its not his fault. He lives in a loveless home with a abusive and neglecting mother and father. Hes the oldest and has three siblings which he basically had to take care of. He watched his brothers including the baby more than both of his parents combined and even changed and fed the baby. If anything he was the most responseable one out of the family. His behavior lies in the fault of his parents who not only failed to raise him and guide him to acceptable behavior but to also leave him with the responsibility of literally being a father figure to his siblings whom of course he also hit whenever they did wrong in his eyes. Pretty obvious where he learned that from. The poor kid has no friends, no free time and lives to take care of his siblings even to this day.
Hating the kids is not the answer.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 08:27 Post subject: |
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Listen - I don't care if it's not their fault. I don't care if it's just natural for them to scream, cry, refuse or just to be a pain in the ass. I don't care if they are so darn cute to all of you.
I - just - hate - them.
So if i'd hate winter - even if i understand why there's winter, even if i can't do anything about it - i'd still hate it.
Maybe my views will change someday, and i'll somehow start loving kids enough to want my own. Right now, I can't see that happening. But who knows.
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no stick by em. kids are annoying regardless of how they're raised and what they do. they get in the way. they're annoying as fuck. and they'll bug you and ridicule you and do shit to you that you don't want. - all for attention.
I <3 kids. after they grow up, they get into puberty they get worse. once they get into adulthood, they're respectable citizens with responsibilities. but before all that, the whole 21 years b efore they're all growed up... they're annoying little fucktards you jush wanna step on and beat to a pulp until they sit in a corner, cowering in fear, not making a peep while you relax.
Best time i had was w/ my nephew. not my friends drinking smoking pot or screwing my lady friends. my nephew and i are best buds.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 09:44 Post subject: |
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There is that age when they cute and innocent (to 3, maybe 4 yr.), then there is that age when they are curious and when they think they know everything (school age to puberty) also called annoying age . And then there is puberty in which guys stay for the rest of our lives , and girls fall off its influence somewhere after 18, 19 yrs. I always say that I would like to have a child, but would leave when it's born, and then come back when I can talk sth about whit my child
They're not bad if they are brought up good.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 13:01 Post subject: |
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I hope i will never have my own kids i really do, for me they would just be a burden besides theres nothing positive about having a kid anyway
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| JahLux wrote: | | I hope i will never have my own kids i really do, for me they would just be a burden besides theres nothing positive about having a kid anyway |
And immature thing to say imo. Try to think a little longer ahead. You are gonna get lonely when you grow old. Well ok, some do even tho they got kids (because they never visit) but kids are probably worth it - all in all.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 13:07 Post subject: |
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Great a board full of grumpy old gits.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 18:02 Post subject: |
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well I can relate to _SiN_'s thread.
I am working in a store right now and get to see some real brats. I blame their parents. What is worse is that some of these mom's leave their 3 and 4 yr old alone in the car and try to come into shop and expect us to bend over backwards for them. They try shit on and leave a huge mess and then people (public) come in looking for them because their kids are out in the parking lot almost getting hit by cars and screaming for their moms. Then they get pissed off because they have to wait in a christmas line up at the till. They have all the time in the world to try shit on but when it comes to pay they have no patience. Also they let their kids run wild in the store and mess up the friggen panty table which takes hours to do. We have these body sprays that 'purr' when you pick them up. I had 4 boys picking them all up at the same time. I couldn't even hear the mom talk because of all the purring. No control I tell you.
I know other kids tho that are really well behaved because they parents did a good job and taught them that No means No.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 19:50 Post subject: |
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also I would like to add that some mother let her kid smear shit all over the public toilet, on the walls and floor.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 20:03 Post subject: |
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I sympathize.
I hate kids too.
| SycoShaman wrote: |
Kids can provide so much happiness and joy man. You wouldnt believe it until you've experienced it. |
Or just maybe there isn't any universal truth like that, and some people just aren't meant to have kids.
| deelix wrote: | | JahLux wrote: | | I hope i will never have my own kids i really do, for me they would just be a burden besides theres nothing positive about having a kid anyway |
And immature thing to say imo. Try to think a little longer ahead. You are gonna get lonely when you grow old. Well ok, some do even tho they got kids (because they never visit) but kids are probably worth it - all in all. |
Pretty narrow-minded bullshit statement tbh. - liking kids is a matter of subjective perspective, not some maturity thing. And as for being lonely when you're old, if you are then you deserve it. But to think that kids is the only cure for loneliness is silly. There are plenty of social old people who don't necessarily only "hang" with their own family.
Blood relatives mean fuck-all to me. I care more for my friends than blood-ties.
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