Seeing how I'm from the uk,(it seems to be alot worse in the u.s.a of late other then here, i could be wrong) i read lots of articles about the impending "doom" of the u.s.a etc etc..
If it's crap or reality i don't know?
What's you're opinion?
I'm after you're own opinions on what everyone from America thinks of the future months etc?
Is it really this bad from what I've read recently?
Impending martial law?
Food crisis?
Economic doom?
Just after personal opinions please?
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Am i reading way to much into this?
The whole conspiracy theory stuff on it is just twisted versions of what is at foot.. Alex jones and all the other guys like him on radio typs shows ala coast to coast am etc (what mooks lol), Roll it so hard its twisted beyond for sure.. There are truth's with aspects of certain topics they discuss but its not generaly what is painted for you.
Media/financial services manipulation for own gain has been around from an age, and still works on most people today. It is generaly about following the money, but so much deception and bait and switch tactics are thrown into the loop it starts all the conspiracy stuff to gather fast.. That is also of course welcomed by those with the money because it furthers the ability to fuck everyone over in even more ways..
Its always about the money/power trip, you shouldnt look at it like its a new world order conspiracy etc, its just whats been done for many many years before and is repeated because it works.. Or rather works on the uneducated and those that care not to see how its done.
Albeit this time things are alot worse than in past schemes to take peoples cash etc but thats probably a given seeing as the world develops people find more evil ways to conn you. As I highly sudgested before, to make some immediate difference, start lynching the Financial types at the top and sticking the heads of such on sharp sticks in main city squares.. It would do wonders to the sudden change of mentality to those pushing your buttons.
Do I think a revolution is possible or may happen, Who knows? For sure these little gits could do with one, but people do only break when things start to only happen to themselves.. Which brings us to the food crisis, if that would ever happen due to them draining the economy and us all to that point where your all in que with your tickets for a meal, then that will be the time you will start seeing mass revolts.. But I highly doubt that is going to happen so soon, depends how dipshit and greedy they can be to a point of having to ease off a bit im thinking. Raging people and no work etc does not earn them any money after all.
The whole conspiracy theory stuff on it is just twisted versions of what is at foot
No it's not it's another opinion instead of the stuff you listen to imo.
Yes an opinion to sell you shit, and make money for themselves just like those above them are lol please dont be so fucking blind lol..
Spoken just like those that have not bothered to learn any history eh And that is why they keep fucking winning lol, it is about waking up, but its not about waking up like Mr fucking alex jones tells you lol..
The whole conspiracy theory stuff on it is just twisted versions of what is at foot
No it's not it's another opinion instead of the stuff you listen to imo.
Yes an opinion to sell you shit, and make money for themselves just like those above them are lol please dont be so fucking blind lol..
Spoken just like those that have not bothered to learn any history eh And that is why they keep fucking winning lol, it is about waking up, but its not about waking up like Mr fucking alex jones tells you lol..
The whole conspiracy theory stuff on it is just twisted versions of what is at foot
No it's not it's another opinion instead of the stuff you listen to imo.
Yes an opinion to sell you shit, and make money for themselves just like those above them are lol please dont be so fucking blind lol..
Spoken just like those that have not bothered to learn any history eh And that is why they keep fucking winning lol, it is about waking up, but its not about waking up like Mr fucking alex jones tells you lol..
I am not being blind you're just stating "you're" opinion no1 elses.
That's you're opinion.
Listen i asked for personal opinions I'm not going to get into slanging matches or nothing.
A lot of those articles are just scare-mongering, some of them are by 'analysts' who missed seeing the coming of the crash and are trying to save some face by predicting worse things to come and the rest is just schadenfraude.
This current crisis, as bad as it looks, is limited to the housing market and the rest of the people lining up for a hand-out are just trying to get in on the billions of 'no strings attached' aid dollars being handed out.
The real crisis that some economists predict and that is the collapse of the dollar, hasn't happened yet but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Let's face it, any other country in the same position as the US wouldn't be able to borrow two dimes to rub together but the US manages to borrow year after year not only to pay off earlier loans and interest but also manages to get other countries to bank-roll their budget deficits. It's a Ponzi scheme thousands of times bigger than the one hitting Wall Street right now.
In fact, the dollar has strengthed against most currencies because money is flowing out of markets (stock, housing, etc) into cash. And that strength will continue as long as the arabs, the chinese, the japanese and even the russians keep buying US debt. The funny thing is that they don't have a choice at the moment.
It is like the company that was making the Chunnel train. At one point they were so grossly over-budget and cash-strapped that the banks considered not lending them any more money. The company owners reportedly dared them to not lend them the money and let them go bankrupt. The banks capitulated and had no option but to loan them more money to avoid making massive losses.
The countries bank-rolling US debt dare not stop because the resulting collapse of the value of the dollar will see their precious t-bills turned to paper. Not only that, the US is probably the number one market for their goods like in the case of china. A dollar crash would leave the US unable to buy those products or even simple necessities like oil. Fact - In the month of November only 74 cars were sold in Iceland, a 94% decrease compared to last year.
Having said that, we have already seen a lot of things this year that no one would could have forseen before so nothing is impossible.
the first time i got economics and learned about high and low conjuncture and how at the time we were in a high conjuncture i already predicted this. we are now going into a heavy low conjuncture (every 4 or 5 low conjunctures its a bad one) but in a couple of years itll be a-ok again
No it's not it's another opinion instead of the stuff you listen to imo.
Yes an opinion to sell you shit, and make money for themselves just like those above them are lol please dont be so fucking blind lol..
Spoken just like those that have not bothered to learn any history eh And that is why they keep fucking winning lol, it is about waking up, but its not about waking up like Mr fucking alex jones tells you lol..
I am not being blind you're just stating "you're" opinion no1 elses.
That's you're opinion.
Listen i asked for personal opinions I'm not going to get into slanging matches or nothing.
LoL, I am not really stating MY opinion, I am giving you information that anyone can find out, due to it being seen so far back in history its not funny anymore... Swingman has the right grasp on it, hes not giving an opinion either he is stating facts. I dont mean to belittle you or anything its just Ive seen it with so many people, but soon as it finaly clicks its all clear for them.... Everyone loves a good conspiracy because people are always looking for someone else to blame but themselves lol.. Think about it ....
A lot of those articles are just scare-mongering, some of them are by 'analysts' who missed seeing the coming of the crash and are trying to save some face by predicting worse things to come and the rest is just schadenfraude.
This current crisis, as bad as it looks, is limited to the housing market and the rest of the people lining up for a hand-out are just trying to get in on the billions of 'no strings attached' aid dollars being handed out.
The real crisis that some economists predict and that is the collapse of the dollar, hasn't happened yet but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Let's face it, any other country in the same position as the US wouldn't be able to borrow two dimes to rub together but the US manages to borrow year after year not only to pay off earlier loans and interest but also manages to get other countries to bank-roll their budget deficits. It's a Ponzi scheme thousands of times bigger than the one hitting Wall Street right now.
In fact, the dollar has strengthed against most currencies because money is flowing out of markets (stock, housing, etc) into cash. And that strength will continue as long as the arabs, the chinese, the japanese and even the russians keep buying US debt. The funny thing is that they don't have a choice at the moment.
It is like the company that was making the Chunnel train. At one point they were so grossly over-budget and cash-strapped that the banks considered not lending them any more money. The company owners reportedly dared them to not lend them the money and let them go bankrupt. The banks capitulated and had no option but to loan them more money to avoid making massive losses.
The countries bank-rolling US debt dare not stop because the resulting collapse of the value of the dollar will see their precious t-bills turned to paper. Not only that, the US is probably the number one market for their goods like in the case of china. A dollar crash would leave the US unable to buy those products or even simple necessities like oil. Fact - In the month of November only 74 cars were sold in Iceland, a 94% decrease compared to last year.
Having said that, we have already seen a lot of things this year that no one would could have forseen before so nothing is impossible.
Not true. USA is going to realy suffer in 2009 due to huge export deficit and national debt. Especialy when the bailout spending will force the government to start cutting social programs and increasing taxation. Fortunately for USA it can make huge cost cuts from their military expenditures and rerouting them into business & social sector. The question is: Will they do it?
It's going to become a lot worse before it gets better. We're just at the beginning of a major global recession. The global economy has been abused for a decade with unrestrained and unwise greed and kept on life support for 2 years to keep things floating. It's not something that can be patched up with a band-aid, the world economy needs to be repaired before we can start recovering from it. :/
The economic crisis, especially in the UK, has been caused by irresponsible lending. House prices are out of control with people borrowing up to 6 and 7* their incomes and probably more as incomes were not checked by the banks. Other banks were offering 125% mortgages putting the owner in instant negative equity (Bank is now nationilesd) As far as I'm aware this has caused a huge house price bubble which has now burst thanks to the credit crunch. The UK is in a recession and probably heading for worse with mass unemployment on the way. House prices are already down 15-20% with some economists forecasting a further 40%.
Although this is a global issue Crash Gordon needs to take some fekin responsibity as he was the chancellor for 10 yrs and was asleep at the wheel. The sooner he goes the better. Although I am a FTB on an above national average salary and am looking forward to houses coming down to the normal 3.5* income.
gas prices here in the states have reached an all time low. I haven't seen prices this low since I was riding my bike.
that's really all I care about lol.
same in Canada dude.
And since our dollar is back around 80-83cents, tons of americans have come here for xmas vacation.
Not bad tho, american girls are fun And the guys are cool to, the ones ive met this year.
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And that is why they keep fucking winning lol, it is about waking up, but its not about waking up like Mr fucking alex jones tells you lol..
