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Cohen
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 Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 15:34 Post subject: fucking dilema. |
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Its over now.
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lhzr
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 15:43 Post subject: |
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if her name's on the contract, the company that sold it won't do much, i guess.
threaten him with the cops or get a few friends together and get it back (if you do this make sure to rough him up/scare him a bit so that he won't feel inclined to pursue any sort of vengeful shit).
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 15:44 Post subject: |
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I think this is the police' job, no? If you can prove that it is indeed hers, you could have a case. But I don't know, if she gave it as a gift and now suddenly wants it back... If it was something she bought for the both of them, and now wants it back, you are on the right side. If she bought it for the ex as a gift, it's vague.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 15:56 Post subject: |
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thats the problem. Shes getting into debt because of it. It WAS bought as a gift, but the fucker got violent with her and took everything when they split. I am so tempted to go around to his house (its only a 15 minute walk from here) and fuck it over but I dont want to have to suffer any legal shit over a damn TV.
So I should go to the cops then?
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lhzr
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 15:58 Post subject: |
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there's no way to tell whether it was a gift or not, it's her word against his.
i don't think it matters, though. gift or not, it's her name on the contract, so it's her tv.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 15:59 Post subject: |
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exactly , so Will the company take care of getting it back or should I go to the police?
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lhzr
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 16:06 Post subject: |
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Wgem, do anything but nothing ok 
dont be walked over by skanking little feckers that think they have an upper hand to an ex and all that bullshit.. take it back by force if needs be.. if he phones cops. you can then go what u mean ? its our t.v and hand over the contract with her name on it
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 16:07 Post subject: |
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"Go get him" is really a bad advice. Let us forget of our macho personae, he could himself go to the police, and then you'll be charged with theft and attacking him.
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lhzr
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 16:11 Post subject: |
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Still, I think, and I guess Saint could elaborate, even if something is yours, you can't just break into a house (or charge and threaten to beat) in order to get it. You must use the proper channels.
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lhzr
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 16:15 Post subject: |
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without witnesses, there's no crime.
and anyway, would he complain to the cops that his ex girl got HER tv back from him? that would just make himself look like an idiot.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 17:24 Post subject: |
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good points raised, i already spoke to some friends of friends who can damage his house/car and all that stuff but in the end its not worth it. We need the TV back so I can pay it off, that is all. He can go fuck himself and die for all I care, I just want that TV back so I can get it over with. Im not really up for going around to ask for it but If if comes to that after we try legally then fuck it I guess Id have to get some friends to come with me as this guy is quite a mean mofo.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 17:48 Post subject: |
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How much are these payments a month? If its under $100. Then you should evaluate the situation.
If he is the kind of person that is violent with a woman, he may give you some backlash even if you just get the TV back. Do you really want her ex in your life.
I just say this because i had a similar situation with my wife's ex. He had a TV stand (Very nice one, solid wood, etc) that he refused to give back. He was still trying to phone her and shit when we got together, and every time she would bring up the TV stand, he used it as an opening to phone her again, and get in our lives.
At the end of the day it wasn't worth it.
Pick your battles
But i wish you luck.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 18:30 Post subject: |
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I know far worse people than he is capable of befriending and they owe me many favours; Ive worked in the pub trade for a long time. If need be id get some one else to do my dirty work and 'shut him up'.
For now, we are planning on writing a letter to this guys father, as he himself wont respond to anything we send. If his father does not comply either were threatening court action.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 20:05 Post subject: |
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You know where he lives.
Problem solved.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 20:20 Post subject: Re: fucking dilema. |
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| wgem wrote: | Im paying the loan for a TV that I dont even have in my possession.
My birds ex has a TV she bought him on finance, it has about ยฃ800 left on it. Is there a way she can get it back? Im the one paying it atm because im keeping the company its bought from off her back constantly.. Do i contact them and say someone is keeping it against our will or do i go to the police?
We just want the fucking thing back so i can sell it and pay it off, but this prick wont return any of our calls.
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if it was me I'd just take a baseball bat and a van , knock the door , knock him out , take the TV to the van , drive away
now this is illegal but if nobody's around and the timing is good , you haven't done anything wrong since the TV is legally yours
that after trying all legal ways of course
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 21:01 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | now this is illegal but if nobody's around and the timing is good , you haven't done anything wrong since the TV is legally yours
that after trying all legal ways of course |
hmmm
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 02:05 Post subject: |
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if the guy is violent, i d consider bringing in legal advice before doing anything. Because chances are that you re either getting into something you dont want to or that he rather destroys the tv if you do it on your own.
Do you know any lawyer? (Students often get free legal advice through their university, if you know one...)
edit: you could also try to talk to him and tell him that the name of his ex is on the papers and that you re paying for it right now and that you want it back. And tell him, that if he doesnt, he ll be sued for theft.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 03:59 Post subject: |
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| wgem wrote: | thats the problem. Shes getting into debt because of it. It WAS bought as a gift, but the fucker got violent with her and took everything when they split. I am so tempted to go around to his house (its only a 15 minute walk from here) and fuck it over but I dont want to have to suffer any legal shit over a damn TV.
So I should go to the cops then? |
Just slash his tires bud. You wont get caught. Key his car as well etc
You wont get caught. just dont wear any clothes anyone can recognize you by |
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2008 14:12 Post subject: |
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Inform the police that he stole it. Since you are paying for it you should have no problem having proof that you are the owner or that is on lease to you. Why should you get your hands dirty. Otherwise I'd phone the lease company and inform them of the situation. Just say that you will stop paying unless the property is returned and they will call the police.
Apart from that I don't understand why are you managing the luggage of your girlfriend. Her TV is her problem. Her ex is her problem.
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2008 18:19 Post subject: |
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I think you have to take him to small claims court. It was shared property at the time they were together but it depends on whether it was a gift or not. He will get notified of the court date and it he doesn't show up then the case defaults to you/her. Then if he still doesn't give it back the police will go over and get it. You can bring up his violent past in court too and request the police to go with you which is prob a good idea because they make good witness if he sends back a trashed TV or makes threats.
You don't need a lawyer but it will cost you a small fee to go to small claims.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 18:13 Post subject: |
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I attacked him with a weapon and got arrested, then released on bail due to lack of evidence. Il update soon.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 19:30 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 19:34 Post subject: |
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It's a shame you started the thread with asking about going to the police and doing things the proper way, and ended up with doing it in such a manner.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 19:48 Post subject: |
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WTF @ all the bad advice.
Don't mess with a man's ride. Some prick just broke the glass shield on the instrument panel of my bike last night. Bastard also broke off the side mirrors. That's not cool. Especially when I think the guy who did it is the ex of my brother's girl, and it was my brother who borrowed it last night.
Also WTF at just beating the guy to get the tv.
Most of all DUBYA TEE EFF at actually assaulting him with a weapon.
Just... gah. This will not end well. He's going to do something in a similar vein, or will go after you legally. Either way, you lose.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 20:03 Post subject: |
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What will happen now is the prick will probably keep the TV, and Gem will get in trouble... Shame, really.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2008 00:35 Post subject: |
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its over now.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2008 00:44 Post subject: |
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well, i m sorry to hear that it went south on you. And now you will have to get legal advice or it will fuck you over even more...
i m wishing you best of luck with it.
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